Proof That God Does Not Exist

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The Problem of Evil (Theodicy): This philosophical argument states that the existence of intense, unnecessary suffering in the world is logically contradictory to the simultaneous existence of an all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-loving God.

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@FLRW

I dont know who tells people that God loves humans. God doesnt love humans. God is merely playing a video game and humans are playable characters.

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#3 •••
@SatanLucy


That makes sense.

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@FLRW

Being forced to be good accomplishes nothing, which is why Satan's plan fails.. That's why were were given free agency, even if that risks our not going to heaven. So the problem of evil ism itself, a problem of logic. It isn't.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

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“If God exist, why bad things?”


lol

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I still don’t know what to type!

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@Mag1cman

GOD principle sound.


Magicman not so.


Not to be confused with Mag1cman.


Universal super-intelligent species maybe, but unlikely perhaps, given logistical considerations.


Also not to be confused with Mag1cman...No offence intended.

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If you mean 'God' as the source of this reality, I think it's impossible to deny it.


But if you refer to the 'God' defined by Christianity, it's very easy to prove it doesn't exist.

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@Misterio

I agree to you. I have the same stance now.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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Hmmm, why are a few children born without legs and arms?

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I now believe that your IQ is over 130.

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#11 •••

Your ability to estimate IQs is about as trustworthy as Trump's promises.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

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Hmmmm, I am related to Albert Einstein.

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#13 •••
@FLRW

My wife is related to Isaac Newton.


He invented gravity.


Previously apples fell upwards.

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#14 •••

More proof, achondroplasia dwarfism!

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#15 •••
@SergeantLynch


SergeantLynch wrote:
My wife is related to Isaac Newton.

He invented gravity.

Previously apples fell upwards.


It was Intelligent Falling.


Evangelical Scientists Refute Gravity With New 'Intelligent Falling' Theory - The Onion

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#16 •••
@FLRW
More proof [...]


Children's hospitals.

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Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way. - Christopher Hitchens

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@Sidewalker

Evangelical scientists is a contradiction of terms.

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#18 •••
@FLRW

Define the terms unnecessary and love.

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#19 •••
@ServusDei

Your point?

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@FLRW

The point is for you to define your terms. When you say something is unnecessary you must be comparing it to a standard. I would like to know what makes a thing necessary/unnecessary.

The same goes for "all-loving". What does it mean to be all-loving? What does "love" mean?

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@ServusDei

Exactly.


Though at forum level, if it were "necessary" to define every opinionated statement or word (including "define" I suppose) then we would be forever defining.


So we respond to generally understood words and opinions, generally with generally understood words and opinions, that in the main come with a generally understood meaning or intent.


Maybe at a debating level, one might expect greater clarification.

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@SergeantLynch

Oh, 100%. It's just usually those who take up this stance, of Theodicy, usually aren't great at defining terms nor do they take into account the belief systems that they argue against. I didn't even think he would respond at all to be honest.

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#23 •••

Hmmm, belief systems can be rigid and dogmatic, leading individuals to accept ideas without evidence. The human tendency to cling to these narratives is often driven by a fear of uncertainty and the comfort they provide, rather than by rational truth.

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#24 •••
@FLRW

Indeed.


Acceptance without proof.


I would suggest that belief is defined thus.

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#25 •••
@ServusDei

Whereas for sure, "Theodicy" is a philosophical concept that relies upon opposing assumptions...Though said assumptions do tend to come with a consistent level of social agreement and generalised rules...However, rules that are easily overlooked if needs be.

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#26 •••
@SergeantLynch

Christianity was the most popular religion with over 2 billion followers because people believed Christianity proved God exists.

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@Debby

What Christianity proves, is that if you theo-politically brainwash children then they will remain brainwashed for the rest of their lives.


Whereas there is no proof whatsoever that a specific super-intelligence intervenes in universal evolution...Especially a berobed sandal wearing Middle Eastern type that sneaks up behind betrothed virgins in stables.


Nope a universal super intelligence would undoubtedly be more Doctor Who than Ali Baba...And is just as likely to be a lizard as it is to be a primate.


Though I'm guessing that a cosmic super-intelligence would have long since evolved to be Alternatively Intelligent.

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#28 •••
@SergeantLynch

You are trying to define God in your image. Read your Bible.

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@Debby

Nice of you to see me as super-intelligent and alternative.


Though I am but a basic organic data processing unit, just like you.


And my output too is hypotheytical, though more sci-fi than epic semi desert blockbuster featuring Jim Caviezel.

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@SergeantLynch

Adding,unchanged to your name sums it all up.

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