@FLRW wrote in post #626: Hmmm, In public Hitler embraced religion and religious rhetoric is through his speeches. …snip
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You posted generalized emotion at the expense of specific evidence. If you present specific scientific method based analysis about your Big Bang Conjecture, then, the Lord willing, I will respond.
Inept scientist FLRW used broken grammar that rendered his sentence as garbage, like his garbage science as illustrated by the MITman Model in post #465.
Having escaped your scientific observational skills or lack thereof, Hitler was a evolutionist who preached the superiority of the Arian race. That puts the mass murderer Hitler squarely in your evolution religion camp. You just massively upped the scale from when you liken yourself to Oppenheimer as recorded in post #570.
You failed to address the thread topic of “Show Me How The Big Bang Theory Is Not A Leap Of Faith”. You fail to present Big Bang facts, so you have a Big Bang leap of faith. So, I draw your attention to a prior post to which you evade a response!
@FLRW wrote in post #586: Red-shift does not disrupt …snip
Mr. observationally challenged scientist FLRW,
Instead of addressing my CMBR disrupting recent response post #578 nor post #592 to you, you skipped it, so here is a full copy for (1) you to get back on track with your faith based CMBR and (2) you to be unable to respond to me with scientific method based procedure for your CMBR.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: Kermos, why do you like Chinese scientist?
You’re racist. You admitted that you look like one who associates with communists (post #570), and the chinese have a communist form of government.
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: The validity of Eda Gjergo’s concept that early massive galaxy formation significantly contaminates or even constitutes the Cosmic Microwave Background (CMB) is currently not accepted by the mainstream cosmological community and is considered a controversial hypothesis rather than established fact.
You are a sloppy scientist who was indoctrinated at MIT. I previously explained that I use your science against you. Gjergo is your mainstream cosmological community’s scientist sorceress.
Kroupa’s credentials are primarily European. Pavel Kroupa, astrophysicist and professor at the Helmholtz Institute for Radiation and Nuclear Physics at the University of Bonn and Charles University in Prague, expressed “According to our calculations, it may not exist at all” regarding the Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation (CMBR) as per his study published in the journal Nuclear Physics B (source: “Goodbye to the Big Bang theory: a university challenges everything we thought we knew and suggests that the creation of the universe may have been something else” (Austin Caldwell; MARCA; 2025-06-28). Kroupa’s credentials far exceed your credentials to address the CMBR’s status in the mainstream cosmological community!
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: Gjergo and co-author Pavel Kroupa published a paper in Nuclear Physics B (2025) arguing that radiation from the formation of massive early-type galaxies (ETGs) could account for at least 1.4% and potentially 100% of the observed CMB energy density, thereby challenging the standard Big Bang model. Their calculations suggest that these galaxies were up to 10,000 times brighter during formation than they are today, and their redshifted infrared emissions could mimic the CMB spectrum.
So, your CMBR is faith-based which is the very point that you nonsensically non-scientifically fight.
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: However, prominent physicists and reviewers have raised significant criticisms:
You are a sloppy scientist who was indoctrinated at MIT. Name names with links to papers.
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: 1. Mechanism Issues: Critics note that for galaxy emission to mimic the CMB, there must be a mechanism to distribute cosmic dust uniformly and thermalize it to the exact temperature of the CMB, which is physically unlikely given that dust is generated by specific galaxies, not uniformly distributed.
Your CMBR is not uniform as established in post #376.
Your “which is physically unlikely given that dust is generated by specific galaxies” is your scientist sorcerers belief without proof (assumption, see post #53 for the dictionary definition).
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: 2. Observational Evidence: Standard cosmology maintains that the CMB originates from recombination (380,000 years after the Big Bang), while the galaxies in question formed much later (~200 million years). The spectral shape and anisotropies of the CMB are robustly explained by the Big Bang model and are not fully accounted for by galaxy formation models.
Here, you credit “Observational Evidence”. There, you discredit “Observational Evidence” (see post #478). Your sloppy science is self-contradictory!
Your “the CMB originates from recombination (380,000 years after the Big Bang)” is a massive assumption (belief without proof, see post #53 for the dictionary definition). Nobody observed your CMB origination, so you lied by including your unobserved CMB origination under your “ 2. Observational Evidence”.
Your unobserved “while the galaxies in question formed much later (~200 million years)” is your “belief without proof” (assumption, see post #53 built on top of your “the CMB originates from recombination (380,000 years after the Big Bang)” massive “belief without proof” (assumption, see post #53), so you lied by including your unobserved “while the galaxies in question formed much later (~200 million years)” under your “ 2. Observational Evidence”.
Your “The spectral shape and anisotropies of the CMB are robustly explained by the Big Bang model and are not fully accounted for by galaxy formation models”, that you stated so “matter of fact” is really a “matter of faith” built on your detailed lies above.
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: 3. Methodological Concerns: Some reviews point out circularity and a lack of sensitivity analysis in the authors’ claims, noting that the 1.4% figure is a conservative lower bound that the authors themselves admit could scale up to 100% with “small tweaks” to assumptions, which undermines predictive rigor.
Hmm, “Some reviews”, but not all reviews, so much for your “authoritative” “mainstream cosmological community” cohesion.
You have “assumptions”, and they have assumptions. You dogmatically believe your “belief without proof” are superior to their belief without proof by way of your fanatical evolution religion intense zeal.
Your “3. Methodological Concerns” apply to your position, as well, FLRW! You employ scientist sorcerer’s arbitrary data point deletion followed by their application of mathematical statistics (magic) to arrive at your “definitive 2.725 K” (proof post #421). I posted your CMBR data points with detailed mathematical analysis in post #376 and post #421 which clearly exposed your “definitive 2.725 K” to be a magical, mystical, nonsense nonscience faith.
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
@FLRW wrote in post #574: In summary, while Gjergo and Kroupa’s work highlights a potential foreground contamination that warrants further study, the consensus view remains that the CMB is a relic of the Big Bang, and the claim that it arises primarily from early galaxy formation is regarded as unsalvageable nonsense or a provocative but unproven hypothesis by many in the astrophysics community.
Oh, look, “potential foreground contamination” is a variant of you “scientist sorcerer’s arbitrary data point deletion” which I referenced earlier in this post. That is you, Mr. MIT AI IQ scientist sorcerer FLRW committing your magical, mystical act right there!
You expressed no scientific method support for your CMBR, there.
You failed to prove your CMBR, and you failed to disprove your CMBR. I am using your science against you, so whether you prove or disprove Kroupa et al’s paper doesn’t matter to me because I’m showing you that your whole Big Bang is a leap of faith.
Kroupa, with additional author Eda Gjergo, expose evidence against the existence of the CMBR. These two extracts from their abstract explain:
A previously overlooked foreground component is the formation of massive early-type galaxies (ETGs), which can no longer be ignored, particularly in light of JWST’s detection of massive, evolved systems at extreme redshifts (z>13).
Even in our most conservative estimates, massive ETGs account for 1.4% up to the full present-day CMB energy density.
(source: “The impact of early massive galaxy formation on the cosmic microwave background” (Eda Gjergo, Pavel Kroupa; Nuclear Physics B published by Elsevier aa distributed on ScienceDirect.com; August 2025; Article: 116931; Volume 1017))
Astronomer astrologers best case scenario is that a “definitive 2.725 K” is off by 1.4% which means you the MIT trained nuclear scientist FLRW has personal faith expressed as scientific fact in his own composition in this thread of:
@FLRW wrote in post #412: 2. Modern Verification: Modern precision satellites like NASA’s COBE and ESA’s Planck Observatory have measured the CMB’s true current temperature down to a definitive 2.725 K.
Which is recorded in post #421 with my response.
That study’s 1.4% is the lower of the conservative echelon.
The study’s full present-day CMB energy density is the higher of the conservative echelon which excludes a so-called CMBR from being a Big Bang indicator!
This examination of the study’s conservative echelon leaves the liberal echelon unexplored. The implications of a liberal echelon destroy the Big Bang.
Your whole Big Bang is unproven and unobserved with bad evidence, so your Big Bang is a leap of faith.

