Alien Mafia DP2

Thought process so far is I don’t think Ref or Supa is the recruit which means I don’t think they are the team together

supa because I really doubt he was the recruit because he’s always scum read and it just seems like a off the wall pick when David was on the table as vengeful or more experienced players.

ref because I think he would be jumping at the fake claim for town cred

they would have to have started scum

ref bothers me. I think the entire table is in agreement with pie that we need to mass claim due to the recruit and the resistance is largely pointless at this stage. It’s either because he is softing a power role which is totally obvious to mafia at this point with the refusal to claim or he could be scum and the one who started as scum and is scared to claim in general due to being caught out with his role.

betting man. I think the recruit was between David, Pie, or Wf

i also think supa is likely town with that role. The role exists prob to make sure all 4 robots, synethics, whatever all claimed and didn’t fake claim. Leads me to think the starting scum was between one of those 4

so with what we have now

gut is going towards

skep

wf,pie,David as the recruit

if we do this we all need to pick a time. I don’t think drawing or popcorn is useful as if ref is refusing due to being caught out . Being on the backend will only give them an edge.

betting man. I think the recruit was between David, Pie, or Wf

I’m leaning towards WF / Pie with pie as a recruit.

Pie is a far better scum player than I can ever hope to be. Skill wise Pie is the better recruit

It’s not a skill thing. 3 of us have been playing for years so in terms of experience. That makes sense

you being newer is less relevant than your role.

them using that np1 and not later in the game is telling. They either immediately wanted to use it to gain an experienced player or you but they could cause a lot more chaos if it was later. The only thing that was open dp1 was your claim.

but I do think it’s between you pie or wf. I get stuck on you because I don’t see why else they would sacrifice that np1. Even if they wanted to recruit someone that is experienced. Doing it later in the game just to reset the game makes so much more sense.

but I do think it’s between you pie or wf. I get stuck on you because I don’t see why else they would sacrifice that np1. Even if they wanted to recruit someone that is experienced. Doing it later in the game just to reset the game makes so much more sense.

Casey was not very active last DP. It makes sense for them to use in on NP1. Also I think this also clears a lot of the folks who were and have been rather inactive.

If we can’t get this mass claim off the ground. Do you have thoughts?

we are running out of time and im on a time limit tonight and tomorrow

The only ones that are largely in active are supa and skep

as mentioned above and for different reasons. I don’t think they were the recruit anyway. Casey being innactive is also not tied to why they used it or at least I can’t image it’s relevant.

Ngl that kinda read as tmi. Felt like you knew she could not play so used it because she was busy or something.

Everyone read this

Casey was not very active last DP. It makes sense for them to use in on NP1. Also I think this also clears a lot of the folks who were and have been rather inactive.

is this tmi to anyone else?

if we are going to do this we need to do it soon. Good chance I’ll be in active from tonight until tomorrow evening because I have a certification thing I am working on. We either need to commit or not

If REF isn’t on by 2pm, we should just go on and draw straws to full claim, or set a time for everyone else.

I really dislike doing this without him Ngl. As if he’s resisting because he is og scum it’s giving them options for claiming.

think we need a time and all agree to it. I’m more asking if he is still refusing how do you see a path forward. As much typing as there is. This dp has been largely useless.

If REF isn’t on by 2pm, we should just go on and draw straws to full claim, or set a time for everyone else.

Agreed with this.

is this tmi to anyone else?

Grasping for straws? It's literally a hypothesis....

Thought process so far is I don’t think Ref or Supa is the recruit which means I don’t think they are the team together 

I would probably agree with that. From an objective lense, the pick is among you, me, or Whiteflame with an outside chance of Kohai just because of his role

supa because I really doubt he was the recruit because he’s always scum read and it just seems like a off the wall pick when David was on the table as vengeful or more experienced players. 

If Supa was scum, he was the original scum and him/WF are making this up. I don’t think that’s likely.

ref because I think he would be jumping at the fake claim for town cred 

Issue with REF is that you could justify anything with the MUTHUR claim. His refusal to full claim is telling. The character claim could be safe because Luna said the theme is complex and they know the theme.

they would have to have started scum 

ref bothers me. I think the entire table is in agreement with pie that we need to mass claim due to the recruit and the resistance is largely pointless at this stage. It’s either because he is softing a power role which is totally obvious to mafia at this point with the refusal to claim or he could be scum and the one who started as scum and is scared to claim in general due to being caught out with his role. 

Agree with this. The solution for this is lynching REF today, and doing the mass claim only after he claims. If he refuses, he should be lynched. If he claims last second then we’ll be scrambling, which could be an issue

betting man. I think the recruit was between David, Pie, or Wf

Replace me with you, and I agree

i also think supa is likely town with that role. The role exists prob to make sure all 4 robots, synethics, whatever all claimed and didn’t fake claim. Leads me to think the starting scum was between one of those 4 

I agree

so with what we have now 

gut is going towards 

skep 

wf,pie,David as the recruit 

if we do this we all need to pick a time. I don’t think drawing or popcorn is useful as if ref is refusing due to being caught out . Being on the backend will only give them an edge.

I agree with this

That is not grasping at straws. I’ve said since the start of this dp you make the most sense as the recruit. We are not focusing on you because if it happens to be wrong we outright can lose

I’m just saying it’s very odd to say Casey was innactive so the recruit was used. Yeah she didn’t post but the dp ended quick as shit. It’s the inference as to why she didn’t post that is weird to me.

Pie is a far better scum player than I can ever hope to be. Skill wise Pie is the better recruit 

Skill wise I’d say Mikal and I are equal. He probably has the edge because he has more experience and is a better reader of behavior than I am, but I make up for that with the detail aspect

Please look at the tmi thing and see if you see the same slip or am I crazy

Read list

Wryly - Strongest town read. I don't see them trying to derp clear themselves.

Rex - Extremely towny. Rex's frustration feels genuine, esp # 101

Vader - I do not see Vader as ever being a recruit and don't see him as original scum.

Mikal - Extremely towny game solving. I also think if he was scum he'd be a lot more careful on the hammer.

this leaves a POE of:

Whiteflame

Pie

Pie being Ellen makes me think he was originally town and was converted to mafia.

Casey was not very active last DP. It makes sense for them to use in on NP1. Also I think this also clears a lot of the folks who were and have been rather inactive. 

Why does it make sense? What’s the connection?

If we can’t get this mass claim off the ground. Do you have thoughts?

we are running out of time and im on a time limit tonight and tomorrow

Lynch REF and mass claim tomorrow. Take our chances with the mafia gods

If I'm ever lynched I'm going to probably kill within whiteflame, pie. Most likely will kill whiteflame.

I have a slight town read on castin. I think that comment at the beggining came off as genuine fmpov and a misunderstanding of mechanics. Unless it’s a mega bait but I doubt it since they are new to the game. Hard town read for that tbh I know it’s very little but honestly if I was new and didn’t know mechanics I would’ve thought that was probably a kill or a protection

That is not grasping at straws. I’ve said since the start of this dp you make the most sense as the recruit. We are not focusing on you because if it happens to be wrong we outright can lose 

I’m just saying it’s very odd to say Casey was innactive so the recruit was used. Yeah she didn’t post but the dp ended quick as shit. It’s the inference as to why she didn’t post that is weird to me.

I agree with your analysis. The logic doesn’t follow. But it’s far too risky to lynch him. If he’s the original scum with that role (possible because Luna did say it was swingy), then it could be anyone as his partner.

I'm going to re-read DP1 and see if I can find anything that's pairing. TBH I think it's a mistake to be playing a game of "who is scum likely to recruit?" This is a mind game that the mafia team wants us to play. Let's start finding who has been the most towny between this day phase and last day phase. Let's work on trying to clear people rather than focusing on the recruit.

To be honest I’m still not loving the Vengeful claim from Kohai but I have this thought in the back of my head cuz I feel like I’ve been burned so many times by roles like this where I scum read them for being anti town and easy to get away with being lynched and then get burned. I also think there behavior falls in line from what I see with them as town so idk.

This has to be the path. At least pressure him to cooperate and he will die by not claiming or claim. If he claims, then we set a time after that and all mass claim.

Lady Dayphase is not relevant.

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I chose WF at first but not really sold on him at this point considering the reactions to the message and by narrowing my POV down a bit

I’m Ngl, I have a hard guy read on David right now. The TMI thing with Casey that he is completely avoided answering. Like has not addressed it after pie and I asked and keeps posting and is now trying to bring attention to reads back to dp1 which all reads are pointless because the most town read person (there isn’t one largely cus the dp was short anyway) could have got recruited. Comes off as trying to look towny.

it’s far to risky to kill him. I’m with pie but I’m heavily thinking my initial assumption is correct. He’s the recruit.

Anyway lunch is about to end in 6 and I got a meeting right at 12, so gotta bounce out. My schedule is much more clear after Wednesday so should be more active