Alien Mafia DP2

Fair enough. The info I got was that 4 of the 9 players in this game do not fall into the "human" camp nor the "alien" camp. I did ask for clarification and yes, Engineers would fall into the alien camp. Given that we have 3 characters that fall into that camp (mine, REF's and Wryly's), I think we can assume the fourth is Vader's.

Does anyone here really hate Supa? Cause an incredible amount of spite would be the only thing motivating a competent scum team to use a Yakuza on him. He hates playing as scum. If he is scum in this game he rolled it from the getgo.

What about Thoth?

A Facehugger is an alien in line with the Xenomorph.

Never mind retard moment

Does anyone here really hate Supa? Cause an incredible amount of spite would be the only thing motivating a competent scum team to use a Yakuza on him. He hates playing as scum. If he is scum in this game he rolled it from the getgo.

NGL this feels extremely TMI

Pie - Ellen Ripley - ???

REF - MUTHUR - ???

Mikal - Engineers - ???

Wryly - Wendy - ???

Kohai - The Xenomorph - Vengeful Townie

Whiteflame - David 8 - ???

Vader - ??? - ???

Pie - Ellen Ripley - ???

REF - MUTHUR - ???

Mikal - Engineers - ???

Wryly - Wendy - ???

Kohai - The Xenomorph - Vengeful Townie

Whiteflame - David 8 - ???

Vader - ??? - ???

Casey - Dr. Wren - Mafia Yakuza

Thoth - Facehugger - Apportioner

Then there's a possibility that Vader is the other scum and Casey picked whiteflame to convert, then whiteflame concocted this information handoff scheme to throw off suspicion.

Then there's a possibility that Vader is the other scum and Casey picked whiteflame to convert, then whiteflame concocted this information handoff scheme to throw off suspicion.

We need Supa to confirm what he actually is before we can proceed. If he doesn’t claim a non-human or non-alien then things will get spicy

Why? He was scum in the last two games he played and was not happy about it. In one he was my scummate.

Main argument is this: what scum team, after getting an incredibly powerful role that can recruit a player says 'hmm, let's go with the inactive guy with an unknown role who hates playing as scum over the active, townread players and claimed power roles like vengeful'. What sane scum team would pick him over you, or pie, or even me? Would Casey? I don't think so.

I agree with this

I think it’s more likely David was still the possible target or another experienced player. Supa is like the worst person to pick because he’s always scum read. He would have had to been scum off the flip

seems like the information is there to counteract fake claims. Don’t really understand the point of it as pie had said he talked to Luna last dp and the split was “hard” and the game was swingy.

so it’s not helping the split and and there is the possibility the person that received it (wf) could have been converted

I doubt that is a scum role though.

makes me town read supa but the information seems largely not helpful and is more role confirmation.

Initial thought is one of the 4 non humans is scum and the role is there to prevent fake claiming.

If Vader wasn't scum DP1 he's not scum now, or I'll eat my hat. The question is whether he was scum to begin with.

Then there's a possibility that Vader is the other scum and Casey picked whiteflame to convert, then whiteflame concocted this information handoff scheme to throw off suspicion.

It's worth considering all the options and, yeah, that's possible. I don't make a habit of tying myself to my scum partner that closely (e.g. claiming to get information from them that could be invalidated by either of our flips), but in a game with a Yakuza flip, everything should be on the table. I don't expect anyone to townread me for receiving/relaying this information.

Non humans and non aliens*

the 4 that are being called out in that role directly.

i think supa is town and I think pie could be town unless he was converted. Claiming

ripley when it’s mentioned in the scum

flip is ballsy as shit if he’s scum.

where did we leave off at with the "we're forced to lynch Kohai today" exchange?

It still largely is true.

if he is scum and we don’t lynch him we lose. If he’s town and he shoots and misses we lose. If he’s town, we lynch him and he holds, we get one more dp

the fact is still there. If he’s scum and goes past today, it’s gg If there is 2 scum.

Correction

if he’s scum and we lynch incorrectly we lose *

Which is why Pie is wanting full claims. He wants to focus on the other potential mafia.

The plan is simple. We have to work around Kohai. If he’s town, he will definitely be NKed tonight or tomorrow night because of the whole 2-1 scenario where he can take a member of scum with him. But, if he is scum, we can only kill him when it’s 2-1. Cause even if he kills someone, there’s a townie alive to win the game.

Long story short, we have to work around Kohai. And we can’t use behavior to do that. We need the roles so we can find his (potential) scum partner

Main argument is this: what scum team, after getting an incredibly powerful role that can recruit a player says 'hmm, let's go with the inactive guy with an unknown role who hates playing as scum over the active, townread players and claimed power roles like vengeful'. What sane scum team would pick him over you, or pie, or even me? Would Casey? I don't think so.

If Supa is scum, he was the original scum. I definitely agree with you on that. As for prime conversion targets, it would be one of me, WF, or Mikal. I know it’s not me. I trust Mikal for now. Could be WF. We need Supa’s full claim to determine next steps tho

You'll still need a 4th vote to lynch Kohai when it's time. I assume people cannot VTL themselves.

You'll still need a 4th vote to lynch Kohai when it's time. I assume people cannot VTL themselves. 

Wym?

Yes people can vote themselves, but you only need 2 people to lynch in a 2-1 scenario.

Declare thyself, elusive cur

Refer to post #199

Sounds like Mikal's plan is to lynch him today, because whether he's scum or town, that's workable for us.

Are you saying your plan is if he's town he'll be lynched tonight, and if he's scum we wait until it's 2-1?

It still largely is true. 

if he is scum and we don’t lynch him we lose. If he’s town and he shoots and misses we lose. If he’s town, we lynch him and he holds, we get one more dp

the fact is still there. If he’s scum and goes past today, it’s gg If there is 2 scum.

are you saying that we have to lynch him today? Cause that’s not true. At 5-2, we have 2 opportunities to lynch whoever the original scum was. If Kohai is town, and he loves to 2-1, everyone should lynch him. If he’s town, he has a 50/50 shot (100% if by that time, lines are drawn).

Pie is 100% right lynching him today is insane.