Suikoden Mafia DP1

I know. But my point here is that if you're mafia, and everyone else has said they're empire, the incentive is just to say you're an imperial and figure out your character later. So Whiteflame's move stands directly against any incentive scum would have.

And that's why it's hard for me to scumread him. It would be a massive blunder under basically no pressure. The mafia equivalent of walking your king into checkmate from a solid position, just to help a random pawn in the midgame that was never gonna promote anyway.

It's eyebrow-riasing for sure, but it makes me wonder if there are a few other non-imperials and your theme split idea is just busted. Who hasn't claimed empire v. rebels yet?

I hope to do god he’s Odessa and I just end the game on the spot lol

he could be tp to be clear. But I don’t think he’s town

Fine, then I'll come clean: I am the TP, I can win with scum or town, and I'm good with the latter. Pesmerga was given to me as a fake claim, and yes, it literally does say all that in the claim - the only things I read off of the Wiki were his affiliations. My real character is Yuber. The PM questions whether I'm human or demon, I loathe True Runes yet wield one and pop into huge historical moments to wreak havoc. I'm the TP Survivor.

He’s scum lock

his claim is copy pasted from the wiki

and he directly opposes town

in death tunneling until he’s dead the entire game

Death tunnel me all you want, that's my real claim, and I'm offering to work with town, full stop.

Okay that is more accurate.

I believe that claim. Uber as tp makes sense which is why I asked uber to claim.

it was either you slipped or your read your pm as uber and fucked up thinking Pesmerga was safe

Fine, then I'll come clean: I am the TP, I can win with scum or town, and I'm good with the latter. Pesmerga was given to me as a fake claim, and yes, it literally does say all that in the claim - the only things I read off of the Wiki were his affiliations. My real character is Yuber. The PM questions whether I'm human or demon, I loathe True Runes yet wield one and pop into huge historical moments to wreak havoc. I'm the TP Survivor.

Bruh. Did you just miss the whole "imperials are town" thing?

Crazy blunder.

And you're probably our lynch today. Sorry Whiteflame; we don't negotiate with terrorist (parties).

I believe that claim. Uber as tp makes sense which is why I asked uber to claim.

it was either you slipped or your read your pm as uber and fucked up

I got sent both. I'll show you after the game, that is literally what the Pesmerga post says.

I still wanna use the time to get a claim out of Wylted, and maybe someone else.

Bruh. Did you just miss the whole "imperials are town" thing?

Crazy blunder.

And you're probably our lynch today. Sorry Whiteflame; we don't negotiate with terrorist (parties).

Your loss if so. Working with me pays off a lot more for town than lynching me.

If anyone has a good reason not to lynch the claimed survivor, lmk. But I doubt anyone does.

How's that?

Also this locks in that toran is scum and they are the faction that is recruiting

scum is prob fucked. There is very few people who are in scarlet. So now that we know the split. They have very few options to claim outside of a fake clam

He’s bullshitting btw. He’s prob tp and solo wins. Uber can’t join win with the toran army

There are third parties that can with scum or town? Seems too easy.

He’s bullshitting btw.

Probably, yeah.

split is scarlet vs toran

toran can recruit but are limited to who they can pick

wf is tp survivor and solo wins if he gets to end of game

Funny you say that. Survivor is one of the hardest roles to play.

Not probably. Uber can win with scarlet or by himself. In both games he directly opposes the liberation and is always a villan. The heroes are the good guy and he never has cooperated with them

he would not join win with toran. He also can’t be recruited.

How's that?

If I provide details, it's been strongly implied that what I do will not be effective, so I'll need to keep that to myself for now. All I will say is that I can prove my worth.

He’s bullshitting btw. He’s prob tp and solo wins. Uber can’t join win with the toran army

Again, let me prove it.

Scum are prob going to kill or recruit me. Low-key wana mass claim Characters

I prob can solve.

"Keep me alive for reasons i won't disclose"

wf is tp survivor and solo wins if he gets to end of game

Pretty sure we won't get to that point, but if we get to the final 5, just eliminate me so I can't solo win. Problem solved.

You are prob dying today. You may as well full claim and make a case for yourself

High chance wf is a sk

"Keep me alive for reasons i won't disclose"

Again, if I disclose it, my role will likely fail. If you guys want to make the most use of my role, then scum hunt.

It won’t matter just full claim. You prob are dying if you don’t. You are now a utility lynch

If I provide details, it's been strongly implied that what I do will not be effective, so I'll need to keep that to myself for now. All I will say is that I can prove my worth.

Sorry Whiteflame, but I'll pass.