Suikoden Mafia DP1

You are prob dying today. You may as well full claim and make a case for yourself

You're just going to make my role useless and kill me anyway, so I don't see the value in that. I can prove myself during this DP.

Only thing that saves Whiteflame here is a blatant scumslip from someone who is mafia.

Anyway, let's use the time we have to get a claim or two

Fat chance now, the mafia play here is now to put pressure on WF

ok, so if mafia tries to end the DP too quickly it will look sus. So now they know they can't.

if you want to live at least claim. You know you are dying and you are prob dying regardless of what you claim. So you need value. So you claiming is the only way to get that.

I don’t think you joint win with toran. It’s not thematically practical

I'm ok with a WF lynch. No reason to trust that his win conditions are what he says.

For now, we still haven't heard from Ultra or Wylted

We've seen Wylted and I want his claim, you can scroll back to see my case.

As for Ultra, he's a complete no-show so far.

sure, I'll ping him a second time

I want other thoughts on a mass character claim. I would rather give value before I die

for people saying theme is useless. I have been right about everything so far and caught the tp in like less than a min

we have a lot to operate under theme assumptions and I want to hard carry this.

I'll consider your idea in the morning.

I'm not claiming tonight. If you guys aren't picking up what I'm putting down by tomorrow, then I'll full claim and likely make myself entirely useless in the process. Again: my value almost certainly disappears if I claim what I am. I can demonstrate my value during this DP. If you want that value, give me the opportunity and hold off on getting my role claim. If you read all this and still prefer to get my role claim by tomorrow morning, I'll give it and we can move on to the rest of the DP with my role effectively neutered. Deal?

There is not another tp cult

so again beating a dead horse

it’s scarlet town vs toran scum (who can recruit) vs tp whiteflame

No way im on board with a mass claim considering the mod warning about TMI aiding scum.

sure whatever

probably gonna get his info tomorrow and lynch him anyway

I assume by tomorrow he means the date tomorrow and not the next DP

The Sword of Damocles hangs over thee

But yeah it can wait another night

He’s saying role claiming. There are Characters who you can assume their roles off their claim. I don’t want roles and it may give scum some knowledge but scarlet has very limited people you can claim. So now that we know scarlet is town

mafia will have prob one fake claim

and likely one ore two more that stick out

I’m js I’d rather impart knowledge before I get yeeted.

I assume by tomorrow he means the date tomorrow and not the next DP

As in tomorrow morning, and yes, I suspect I'll just get lynched anyway.

Also if Pesmerga is a fake claim that skep gave I’m def down to role the dice and see if I can solve

He said "revealing information about your character"

That’s prob who is recruitable.

thats true and is a downside. But I don’t think scum find that out outside of skep telling them.

It’s my ego but I think I can solve.

Also not opposed to holding. Just going to suck when I’m dead or playing for scum lol

I was gonna respond to your questions tonight but some other stuff happened in the thread and now I'm tired. I'll get to it tomorrow.

I would like whiteflame to give a rough indication of what usefulness he can prove. If not now, then at least a little while before he full-claims.

I can imagine that whiteflame genuinely scumslipped and then claimed Yuber thinking that a third-party claim could keep him alive, at least for a bit, and this would be better than no damage control. Mikal's stated belief in wf's claim makes me think that wf did not come up with it, no offense. Modpsychers unite: Can you imagine Rex giving scum a third-party as a fake-claim?

I know you're chomping at the bit to see everyone's cards because of your familiarity with the lore, but you solving it before scum takes advantage of the info or NK's you is hardly a guarantee, and anyway we'd all be relying pretty much entirely on your judgment for a solve. Don't like basing my votes off one person's narrative.

Modpsychers unite: Can you imagine Rex giving scum a third-party as a fake-claim?

🫩 Why would you put this thought in my head

I think he’s actually tp

if he was toran and Mafia and uber was a fake claim. He would have just claimed uber. It’s 10 safer.

the part I’m confused about is why he fake claimed Pesmerga. If he just said uber , I would have thought he was town as fuck.

but to much is going on with it to let him live unfortunately. Some chance he could be scum but doubt it.

Why would you put this thought in my head

Matthew 7:6