Suikoden Mafia DP2

I'd like to know if scum has a Janitor or because of the special mechanics of this game every NK is just gonna go poof without a flip dammit

You need to claim your character today. You said you would if you were alive and we need some Claims or results.

Fair. I'll claim my character but I want to wait a day phase for my role (you'll see why once I claim). I am Teo McDohl, Tir's father. I'm extremely loyal to the empire. I was confident in Tir being town for obvious reasons, but I read that they ended up on two different sides of the final battle so now I'm not sure.

Part of me has a hypothesis that the scum team cannot perform a NK and can only recruit but other townies /3p have the power to kill. This is something I"ll have to mull over

Based on what

So tir used his soul eater rune to kill someone and delete them out of the game as town

i Don’t buy scum can’t kill unless tir can kill as town

if tir is town and killed someone and deleted them out of the game flip and all.

they should claim or we should assume he is scum

you are basically town confirmed to me now

don’t say more please

i won’t

Scum now have two of the Great Generals, unless wylted or Kohai are fake claiming.

im prob moving forward with David as a town confirmation for a variety of reasons that I am not going to mention. But he’s basically town confirmed.

I think I know who barbosa is so I think I have a pretty good town pile atm

town pile

max

luna

David

myself

Castin

Luna could change and Castin is a behavior read

but myself max and and David are pretty hard town imo

Do you mind character claiming

I may possibly be able to confirm you. Not 100 percent sure but depending on your character I can town lock you.

one question nags me: Since max was basically conf town why the hell would scum kill shinning over Max????

I don’t know but max is town confirmed.

Agreed.

Do you mind character claiming

I can. I know nothing of the theme though so if I claim my character I am not sure if it will give up my role or not, which could be bad. Let me know if you really want me to.

I'd like to know if scum has a Janitor or because of the special mechanics of this game every NK is just gonna go poof without a flip dammit

Mikal, I did not fully understand what you said about this earlier, so, at the risk of incurring the wrath of the Department of Redundancy Department: Do you think Tir could be a Janitor who mopped the floor with Shining?

I learned that Shining was the night-kill.

I don't know whether or not wylted performed the night-kill.

I don't know whether or not wylted (tried to?) poison Shining, nor do I know what poisoning would have done, if it exists.

So… I’m confused. Didn’t you start off responding this DP by saying that Wylted didn’t kill Shining, then shift to saying that he could only have killed Shining with an NK? You seemed to confirm something about him, but now you’re making it sound like you have no info on Wylted.

Not sure but the text in that post heavily implys soul eater was used.

Yes

soul eater insta kills people in the game by removing them from the field. So it’s a very good way to write in the deletion effect.

So… I’m confused. Didn’t you start off responding this DP by saying that Wylted didn’t kill Shining, then shift to saying that he could only have killed Shining with an NK? You seemed to confirm something about him, but now you’re making it sound like you have no info on Wylted.

I did say that, and I am sorry if I confused anyone. I started catching up on the thread and saw that Wylted was being sussed because he claimed to have tried to poison Shining and people thought Wylted was lying about what the poison did. I went into panic mode and posted that Wylted did not kill Shining because I wanted a response ASAP lest Wylted unnecessarily claim before I finished catching up, and then I realized that my information didn't clear Wylted because he could have performed the NK and lied about the poison ability.

I want to town lock Wylted. Not only is he one of the five generals, but he admitted to targeting Shinning. This is very consistent with what he said at the end of the last day phase

My top scum read is shining tbh but can we just secure this lynch and stop dicking around

Wylted is conf town. There’s no motivation for scum killing shinning. Shinning is a prime mis lynch target that Wylted took from them.

Wylted town locked

In addition I don’t think wylted would bring attention to recruitment mechanics if he were scum on his very clear post.

I disagree with this wholy lol.

you are to stuck on the five generals. One of them is a good fake claim

I get why you think that as teo but skep confirmed he gave them fake claims

The character claim isn’t why I am town reading wylted. I’m town reading wylted because of his consistency.

townies with killing or investigation roles target their scum read. At the end of day phase 1 he said shinning was his top scum read. We confirms that he visited that top scum read showing consistency.

Remember behavior and actions matter more than flavor.

if Wylted visited you and you ended up dying and that was confirmed that stuff would scum lock Wylted. Wylted is definitely town here

It’s possible bust still don’t buy the flavor of his role

Fair point I understand your flavor concerns but flavor is not the thing we should focus the most on.

It’s how I caught wf