Suikoden Mafia DP2

Do you agree with my town pool?

Do you agree with my town pool?

Everyone except WF I think

Not to mention wf and I got a response to the questions at the exact same time stamp within mins. So I believe he asked it

Much as I hate to push back against reasoning that you should townread me, if I was scum, I would still have waited for REF to reach out to me before posting that response.

I’m pointing out the inconsistencies in his claim.

Main thing that has me questioning it is how the hell it would interact with Strengthener. If a Strengthener can affect the ability to manipulate my target, which we've proven it can with Mikal's role, then it sure as hell should work with the Leprechaun. And if a Strengthener can do that, then so can a Strongman.

Long story short, I'm good with the Thoth lynch today. I don't buy either of his role claims. I'm cool with using the rest of this DP to discuss potential partners. Pie would be effectively eliminated from contention if Thoth flips scum. I have very good reason to buy Mikal's claim now. Max is basically confirmed town unless he somehow knew there was a Cop in the game and that there was no Miller (not impossible, but that's a lot of info to give scum). That leaves:

Vader

Lunatic

Wylted

David

Wryly

I'm setting the last two aside for now due to a lack of role claims, since right now I'm focused on mechanics (yeah, I'll get to behavior after I've had more chance to read back through all this). I've already explained why I think Vader's role is likely in this game. It's not impossible that he's just come up with a fake claim based on a scum role that can also prevent the Day Vig, but I doubt it. I did check back and saw Luna breadcrumbing his Doc claim, so either he set up that fake claim well in advance (don't think he got it from Shining) or he's actually the Doc. That leaves Wylted as the likeliest out of the claimed pool to be scum, at least mechanically. Whether as scum or town, he has reason to get his Poisoner claim out there early to avoid getting sussed, and having used it on the NK target making it entirely unverifiable, his claim stands out the most.

It’s the way it’s worded. I think he sent that to you and not sure you would have much of a reason to ask him that. It’s a mod pych thing and less than the others but by time and the wording. I do think you actually asked that question to him

Whatever works.

VTL Thoth

I’m gonna be gone today for Yom Kippur. I think we will learn a lot from this flip. I’m highly skeptical of two ascetics and skeptical of his flavor justification.

I’m gonna be gone today for Yom Kippur.

Yup, I'll be MIA for Kol Nidre tonight. L'shanah tovah! This will be the first year of my life where I can't fast...

L’shanah tova to you as well. I’m unable to fast either. remember don’t be a hero. If you can’t fast then it is a mitzvah to eat.

Well that’s twilight. Guess we will see

Oh shit was that a hammer? I wasn’t paying attention to vote count

L’shanah tova to you as well. I’m unable to fast either. remember don’t be a hero. If you can’t fast then it is a mitzvah to eat.

Yep, I'm keeping that in mind!

Well that’s twilight. Guess we will see

Didn't realize we were there, either. Oh well.

Ya I think that’s 6: Pie, Mikal, Kohai, Luna, Vader, Wylted

I think this was a very productive day phase regardless of his flip. We got a lot of information and unless this was MyLo I think the game is fairly solvable from here

I think this was a very productive day phase regardless of his flip. We got a lot of information and unless this was MyLo I think the game is fairly solvable from here

Not sure when Rex will post flips but right now my scum POE is between

Wylted

WF

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Wryly

obviously Pie is Thoth flips innocent. Not sure why we are town reading Wryly, did I miss something or is this behavior

honestly why I’m town reading white flame too is that he claims Joshua when kraze is open

I think this was a very productive day phase regardless of his flip. We got a lot of information and unless this was MyLo I think the game is fairly solvable from here

Yeah, I think it's doable. I'll use the NP to do some reading and see if I can figure out some behavioral reads.

I want to note again in case I die. That

a large portion of that town pool cannot be recruited.

Not going to say which ones but at least the town block if Thoth flips scum is very unlikely to switch sides given my theory

What’s your justification for Windy being the JOAT?

That I possess a true rune and also have mastered the black rune / conqueror rune. Essentially because of mastery over the the conqueror rune I can lie to and manipulate people in a variety of ways

Yeah, you got me. I had the idea for claiming an NK-redirecting role, then decided this was inherently 'out there' enough that I had to make it so over-the-top it would loop back around to being believable because nobody would dare claim that.

You know the funny part, though? I actually was Ascetic.

I think the cc all but basically locks pie

thinking back you sayinn a mafia and scum aesthetic it was TMI

props on saying leprechaun and aesthetic though. If you were trying to match a character to aesetic. That was a pretty good claim other than them all not doing what they need to do

Like if you had just said aesetic and leprechaun or even just leprechaun I would have bought it. Leprechaun makes perfect sense for Lepant

Really leaves

Luna

wylted

supa

Castin

wf

with David as a wild card but the way David has hinted at his character , I doubt it

Damn I am getting better at mafia lol. Remember I was the one who initially started the wagon

Pie is confirmed town IMO