K-Pop Demon Hunters Mafia - DP2

VTL Pie

There is more I could say, but I'm going with my gut.

Then say it lol

There is more I could say, but I'm going with my gut.

Two things.

One, I’m going to need more than this to switch my vote. Pie hasn’t come off as scummy to me, so I need something spelled out.

Two, this doesn’t really solve our problem. Pie’s not voting himself, so unless Vader voted for Pie, he’s not getting lynched even if I switch my vote.

Love the OMGUS tho

Then say it lol

I can start by asking why you think a main character with a reasonably fitting role screams fake claim to you.

Only the 3 of are on and can talk. We need a consensus and that’s either Vader or Lunatic

I can start by asking why you think a main character with a reasonably fitting role screams fake claim to you.

Already explained this

One, I’m going to need more than this to switch my vote. Pie hasn’t come off as scummy to me, so I need something spelled out.

I a m s u s o f P i e m a i n l y b e c a u s e I t h i n k y o u a r e t o w n a n d h e i s o p p o s e d t o y o u , a n d a l s o b e c a u s e h e i s n e e d l e s s l y s u s o f m e.

Two, this doesn’t really solve our problem. Pie’s not voting himself, so unless Vader voted for Pie, he’s not getting lynched even if I switch my vote.

I think there is a reasonable chance that Vader did vote for Pie.

I think there is a reasonable chance that Vader did vote for Pie.

And he could be scum too lol

Pick Luna or Vader. We need a lynch today period. I would prefer Vader

I a m s u s o f P i e m a i n l y b e c a u s e I t h i n k y o u a r e t o w n a n d h e i s o p p o s e d t o y o u , a n d a l s o b e c a u s e h e i s n e e d l e s s l y s u s o f m e.

Being opposed to me doesn't make him scum. He hasn't really been engaging with much of what I've been saying about Luna, but that largely seems to be borne out of focusing on you, and much as I think a lot of your behavior is NAI, it's not like there's nothing there to base his views on.

I think there is a reasonable chance that Vader did vote for Pie.

I think the probability is low, but certainly not non-existent. Hell, Vader could be on me right now. The only person we have some reason to believe he didn't vote for is you. I could vote with you and see what that does, but a) I don't see much reason to lynch Pie and b) it might still leave us stuck.

Pick Luna or Vader. We need a lynch today period. I would prefer Vader

Choosing Vader would effectively all be based on answering "yes" to the question of "did he Silence himself?" I get why you're down to these two since any vote among the three of us can only be successful if Vader's on that vote, but he would not be my choice. If both of you agree to go for Vader, I'll tow the line.

Choosing Vader would effectively all be based on answering "yes" to the question of "did he Silence himself?" I get why you're down to these two since any vote among the three of us can only be successful if Vader's on that vote, but he would not be my choice. If both of you agree to go for Vader, I'll tow the line.

A) No Lynch - completely unacceptable

B) Lynch Vader - who we have zero behavioral information on

C) Lynch Luna - not preferred personally

Reason’s to lynch Vader from my POV

1) If we lynch Luna and it’s a mislynch and Vader doesn’t die tonight, we have very little to go off of in LYLO

2) He is presumably 1/3 main girls who I think is a strong fake claim for scum. I just don’t buy that scum would get Celine & Vanilla or Bobby & my role as a fake claim

3) He could’ve self silenced cause he messes up on talking and slips all the time.

Literally thought of all this in the last 5 minutes so please poke holes in my argument .

1) If we lynch Luna and it’s a mislynch and Vader doesn’t die tonight, we have very little to go off of in LYLO

I don't get this, is the idea that we need behavioral information from DP2 in order to be successful in a potential DP3? That's a pretty strange argument from where I'm sitting, especially since it's entirely possible that Vader did something during the night NP1 and might again NP2. That would be something to go off of, something Luna couldn't provide if he's telling the truth.

2) He is presumably 1/3 main girls who I think is a strong fake claim for scum. I just don’t buy that scum would get Celine & Vanilla or Bobby & my role as a fake claim

We've discussed this several times already. I agree that Celine - Vanilla isn't a fake claim I'd expect Mharman to give. I believe Mharman would give Celine with some role and that he might just toss it out and claim Vanilla. Thanks for confirming that you're Bobby, but I don't have knowledge of your role so I can't say whether or not it makes sense as a fake claim beyond just being a very likely character to appear in this game. I'll admit, I'm taking a bit of a leap with suggesting that Luna fake claimed Vanilla, but I can't say that it's obvious at all yet that one of the three leads is the fake claim.

3) He could’ve self silenced cause he messes up on talking and slips all the time.

This is the best of the three arguments because it also comports with the decision to use the Silencer on him at all. Unless someone had really good reason to believe he was a member of Huntr/x (I don't see one beyond him being female), the reason for Silencing him doesn't make a whole lot of sense since he'd be likely to be inactive as town compared to everyone else left in this DP and make more mistakes as scum, as you say.

I do have mild reason to suspect that Zoey is a fake-claim based on my PM, so that does swing me towards Vader. I still think it’s more likely between Pie and Luna, but if we are not willing to lynch one of them today, I will go with Vader.

I'm not dismissing this, but again, we need all three of us onboard to lynch Vader. There is 0 chance Vader's vote is on himself. If Thoth doesn't line up behind it, the only options are the players who could have Vader's vote, which means you, me or Luna. I'll vote Vader if he agrees to do it.

Alright, so we doing this? If you vote Vader, I will too.

I agree to vote Vader.

Alright, let's do it.

VTL Vader

VTL Vader

Just need your vote now. I've officially spent too much time on this, getting back to work.

I don't get this, is the idea that we need behavioral information from DP2 in order to be successful in a potential DP3? That's a pretty strange argument from where I'm sitting, especially since it's entirely possible that Vader did something during the night NP1 and might again NP2. That would be something to go off of, something Luna couldn't provide if he's telling the truth.

Anything he said he supposedly did at night is WIFOM on LYLO

We've discussed this several times already. I agree that Celine - Vanilla isn't a fake claim I'd expect Mharman to give. I believe Mharman would give Celine with some role and that he might just toss it out and claim Vanilla. Thanks for confirming that you're Bobby, but I don't have knowledge of your role so I can't say whether or not it makes sense as a fake claim beyond just being a very likely character to appear in this game. I'll admit, I'm taking a bit of a leap with suggesting that Luna fake claimed Vanilla, but I can't say that it's obvious at all yet that one of the three leads is the fake claim.

It’s more likely than not that it is imo. Also, yes I can confirm that I’m Bobby

This is the best of the three arguments because it also comports with the decision to use the Silencer on him at all. Unless someone had really good reason to believe he was a member of Huntr/x (I don't see one beyond him being female), the reason for Silencing him doesn't make a whole lot of sense since he'd be likely to be inactive as town compared to everyone else left in this DP and make more mistakes as scum, as you say.

Yep exactly

VTL Vader

Hammer ^

Vote Count

Vader (?/3) - Whiteflame, Thoth, Pie,Vader?

Whiteflame (?/3) - Lunatic, Vader?

Pie (?/3) - Vader?

Thoth (?/3) - Vader?

Lunatic (?/3) - Vader?

Vader was lynched! He was innocent! Submit night actions!

NP2 ends in 24 hours.