Madoka Magica - Episode 1

At this point, I'll just focus on preliminary thoughts based on what little I can glean from everyone's behavior.

Kohai's pushback on character claims comes off as slight town, even with the little bit of OMGUSing people on his wagon. His suspicion that character claiming is what will trigger the unknown anti-claim is odd since I don't know where he'd be getting that information on the setup aside from his character card, but I agree with Vader that Kohai tends to default to providing TMI when he's town, even if it's NAI to me so far.

Already stated my reasons for townreading Mag1c's claim, and I haven't seen much behaviorally from him to push against that. The reaction test on Kohai isn't unusual and he moved away from it pretty quick. Mag1c tends to gather a lot of information from various interactions and form reads based on seemingly disparate tidbits, which tracks with what he's doing so far.

Casey's always difficult for me to read early. I understand their caution on reading too much into Mag1c's character reveal, but it's an odd position to take given that the character was confirmed directly by Thoth. It's one thing to give scum a fake claim who is the MC of the show. It's quite another to have the mod straight up confirm that that is their character. Wryly mentioned that a theme split placing Madoka as scum would be hard to figure, and though I can certainly think of a couple, this would be a particularly odd scenario. I'd get into the why of that, but it would require talking about specific characters I expect to be in this game and I'd like to avoid that for now. I get Casey's point given the Deltarune game, just don't buy it here. I'll say null for now, want to see more than two posts from Casey.

Wryly's null as well. I like that she's thinking of theme splits and about the ways the dice roll could be featured in this game, though both are largely just shots in the dark at this point. Will have to see more from her later.

Too little here from Rex and Pie with one post apiece, the former just here to VTL Kohai (hopping on a growing bandwagon for no stated reason isn't the best look, but it's not a lot to go off of) and the latter just stating his distaste for the material.

Vader is slight town to me as well. He's thinking more through what the reveal means for Mag1c along pretty similar lines to me, pointed out that the pressure on Kohai seemed to spike out of nowhere, and I get his concerns about me. Also, rightfully spitting straight facts about One Piece. It do be about pirates.

Let’s just say I have very strong feeling that claiming character is part of anti claim and the forced outing of your character counts as a character reveal. That said I’m really emphasizing no more claims or soft claims.

I mean, I agree but I don't understand the vehemence. My PM doesn't imply that it's particularly dangerous, I'm thinking yours must. Or you just really, really don't want to claim but I can't see scum who doesn't want to claim doing something so bald-faced to discourage it. One thing I want - does anyone else have something in their PM which implies that there are dire consequences to character claims? You can just say you do, no need to elaborate.

Wtf, why yall watching this shit. Low key kinda creepy

I miss when anime was about futuristic bikers fighting ESP-powered flesh monstrosities and not low-key pedobait.

Looking into the RVS of Kohai, it’s really hard to even say that there is a guaranteed scum in that pile. Maybe Rex based on previous experiences and games with them??? Not really sure.

This feels townie to me.

One thing I want - does anyone else have something in their PM which implies that there are dire consequences to character claims? You can just say you do, no need to elaborate.

Nope.

It's consistent with the mod's warning that there may be anticlaim mechanics, unless that's also just boilerplate stuff that I'm reading too much into. But also Kohai has been pretty vocal that he wants everybody to stop leaning so much on early claiming and flex our behavior reading muscles. I do kind of depend on softing to gather some solid preliminary data.

One thing I want - does anyone else have something in their PM which implies that there are dire consequences to character claims? You can just say you do, no need to elaborate.

Just checked again. I don’t see anything.

Anyway, I would like to progress this DP in some direction. I've given it some more thought and, at least for this DP, I'm going to oppose any kind of mass softclaim. The best I can think of is magical characters vs. non-magical ones, and I think that's bound to both invite some confusion and limit scum's likely choices for PRs, so I don't think it's worth the cost. Every other one I can think of just makes it too obvious who certain people would be based on their softclaims, so they're not worth it, either.

I will say that my character justification is surprisingly light on spoilers. It doesn't reveal much about my character beyond some personality and physical issues.

Alright my town block right now based on a mix of hard stuff and vibes is:

Pie

Wryly

Kohai

Mharman

Vader

That leaves

Whiteflame

REF

Casey

VTL Casey

I really hate VTLing based on vibes. Everyone is null to me right now except a slight town lean on Mag1c and Kohai. whiteflame is just being cerebral and analytical like he always is regardless of alignment. Not sure how to read Casey.

Anyway, I would like to progress this DP in some direction. I've given it some more thought and, at least for this DP, I'm going to oppose any kind of mass softclaim. The best I can think of is magical characters vs. non-magical ones, and I think that's bound to both invite some confusion and limit scum's likely choices for PRs, so I don't think it's worth the cost. Every other one I can think of just makes it too obvious who certain people would be based on their softclaims, so they're not worth it, either.

I will say that my character justification is surprisingly light on spoilers. It doesn't reveal much about my character beyond some personality and physical issues.

I'm happy with this if everyone's on board. Love muh soft claims.

I really hate VTLing based on vibes. Everyone is null to me right now except a slight town lean on Mag1c and Kohai. whiteflame is just being cerebral and analytical like he always is regardless of alignment. Not sure how to read Casey.

Your vote is the best mechanism to develop reads

I'm happy with this if everyone's on board. Love muh soft claims.

I don't know if I came up with an actual means for us to softclaim in that post, at least not one that I'm comfortable with yet. We might just want to wait until next DP to get any kind of broader idea of what's going on with the setup, if only to give everyone the maximum chance to make best use of their roles. I might come up with something better by next DP, but I figure we either end this DP with a NL straight up or we push a single target and make our decision after they claim.

That leaves

Whiteflame

REF

Casey

I agree with this pool so far, even if I'd throw you in there as well.

Your vote is the best mechanism to develop reads

Not wrong, and we need to start somewhere.

VTL Casey

Just realized you hadn't been tagged.

Thinking of pairings

does white flame / casey make sense?

Thinking of pairings

does white flame / casey make sense?

It seems strange to be discussing any kind of pairing this early. Many pairings are possible. Aside from Mharman, there isn't anyone I'd consider to be likely town at this point. So, yes, I could be paired with Casey based on the information you have at this point. So could most of the players in this game.

Alr I'm here guys. Sorry for being super late. I'll give a reads list then log off for the night.

On second thought, I want my sleep. First thing in morning guys, I promise.

I feel slightly positive about Kohai and Rex.

Whiteflame, Casey, and Pie are the names under my microscope.

Wryly is null.

k that’s all for now gn

Vote Count

Kohai (2/5) | Rex, Casey

Casey (2/5) | Pie, whiteflame

While I'm at it, I might as well add that the day will end in a no-lynch if nobody has the majority of votes. I think that's standard on here, but I never thought to put it in the OP.

One more thing: I remembered why I didn’t wanna out my setup speculation.

I’m still not gonna out it yet.

Signing off, gonna be pretty busy tomorrow with my ongoing wrestling match with life upon a cold blood-soaked arena suspended over the black void of nihilism. Which is to say, I have to do plumbing. And I might have to ask my garrulous neighbor for spare pipe fittings at a time when I'm feeling reeeaaally in-person anti-social. Weep for me.

I don't feel like we've made much progress. I'd like to revisit WF's magic/nonmagic proposal or else see a lot more activity from everyone to base some better reads off of.

I'd pitch in a VTL here but I'm not gonna be at my phone all day tomorrow to play it by ear and unvote when appropriate.

Thinking of pairings

does white flame / casey make sense?

Not particularly. Agree with WF that pairing speculation seems premature.

Signing off, gonna be pretty busy tomorrow with my ongoing wrestling match with life upon a cold blood-soaked arena suspended over the black void of nihilism.

Being meguca is suffering.

That leaves

Whiteflame

REF

Casey

VTL Casey

Why Casey over me or WF?

Whiteflame, Casey, and Pie are the names under my microscope.

Seeing a decent amount of consistency here with Casey, Pie and I largely being in everyone's POE. Not sure what makes you positive on Rex, but he's been null to me.

One more thing: I remembered why I didn’t wanna out my setup speculation.

I’m still not gonna out it yet.

You've mentioned something along these lines a couple of times. Not sure what you're getting at, but I'll leave it to you to decide when you want to discuss it.

While I'm at it, I might as well add that the day will end in a no-lynch if nobody has the majority of votes. I think that's standard on here, but I never thought to put it in the OP.

Considering we've had a few games where a NL was not an option and plurality lynches have existed, it's appreciated to get that confirmation.

Signing off, gonna be pretty busy tomorrow with my ongoing wrestling match with life upon a cold blood-soaked arena suspended over the black void of nihilism. Which is to say, I have to do plumbing. And I might have to ask my garrulous neighbor for spare pipe fittings at a time when I'm feeling reeeaaally in-person anti-social. Weep for me.

Ugh. Sounds like a lot. Hope your neighbor is forthcoming.

I don't feel like we've made much progress. I'd like to revisit WF's magic/nonmagic proposal or else see a lot more activity from everyone to base some better reads off of.

Might be the best bet at this point, though like I said, if we're going to do it, I think I'd prefer getting those softclaims next DP. It'll leave this DP largely bereft of information, but that might be for the best.

Might be the best bet at this point, though like I said, if we're going to do it, I think I'd prefer getting those softclaims next DP. It'll leave this DP largely bereft of information, but that might be for the best.

I agree. Actually I think this is the best play

VTNL

Let’s not risk volunteering too much information to trigger any anti claims

Went out for the night last night. Going to do some catching up today since I have time

I agree. Actually I think this is the best play

VTNL

Let’s not risk volunteering too much information to trigger any anti claims

Given that we have an odd number of players, the NL is virtually guaranteed at some point, so I think DP1 isn't a bad place to do it.

That being said, I'm not triggering the end of the DP this early. If nothing else, I'm still here to get some behavioral info.

Given that we have an odd number of players

I meant even, though I guess it is odd for us to have an even number.