Madoka Magica - Episode 4

I’m heading to sleep also. Got a lot to review

Yes, and they knew it was a numbers game. I recognize they took a big risk claiming that Vader received it, but they already had good reason to believe you hadn't (you would have announced it in one of those first few posts), so they only had to bank on a 1 in 3 chance. Wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone play the odds to get townread with a ballsy claim.

But why take the risk is my point. He could’ve just as easily said that he directed Kohai to Pie without saying anything about the Rolecop. That still implicates you. REF was dying today no matter what. He was clearly the original scum, and based on OP, we know the recruit carried out the kill. And the recruit couldn’t have been Kohai. I’m basically confirmed town. So that leaves you. Doesn’t make sense to yolo

Who do you think is the more likely recruit: whiteflame or vader?

Who do you think is the more likely recruit: whiteflame or vader? 

WF. I have a behavioral reason as well

WF. I have a behavioral reason as well

I'm leaning towards WF as well. However, I went back through day 2 and vader admitted to accepting the contract:

Also, I asked if the contract went through, would my original NP action been voided. Thoth replied to this yes, but since it failed, I got my original ability. Which maybe would be the reason there isn’t a NK but I don’t want to jump to that conclusion just yet

That is the big issue that's bothering me. Assuming everyone was honest about if they accepted the contract vader is the only one left who could be scum.

Rex himself admitted to accepting the contract. I think scum probably hid with the folks who said they accepted. This is why I'm thinking vader is a strong possibility

VTL Rex

But why take the risk is my point. He could’ve just as easily said that he directed Kohai to Pie without saying anything about the Rolecop. That still implicates you. REF was dying today no matter what. He was clearly the original scum, and based on OP, we know the recruit carried out the kill. And the recruit couldn’t have been Kohai. I’m basically confirmed town. So that leaves you. Doesn’t make sense to yolo

Because this is the time to do it. With a known Role Cop on the table handed out to a town player, this is his opportunity to make the next DP very short and get an easy mislynch to end the game. Any info he gets, any action he claims to take going into next DP is going to get a lot more scrutiny.

Claiming that he'd redirected a couple of you would have just invited more questions as to why he did it. Frankly, I'm still surprised he's never used it to at least confirm my role. I'm also unclear on whether he even has another shot of his Redirector since he said he doesn't have anymore shots left in post #20.

Claiming that he'd redirected a couple of you would have just invited more questions as to why he did it. Frankly, I'm still surprised he's never used it to at least confirm my role. I'm also unclear on whether he even has another shot of his Redirector since he said he doesn't have anymore shots left in post #20.

This is what's bothering me as well. Also with rex being conf scum why not redirect the kill onto pie so there won't be a night kill? Pie is BP and we wouldn't have had a NK.

Anyone around?

This is what's bothering me as well. Also with rex being conf scum why not redirect the kill onto pie so there won't be a night kill? Pie is BP and we wouldn't have had a NK. 

REF doesn’t have to execute the NK. In fact, it was the recruit that did yesterday and today based on the OP

REF doesn’t have to execute the NK. In fact, it was the recruit that did yesterday and today based on the OP

Fair. Actually I asked the mod for clarification that the role stopper would not actually stop the night kill so taht point is moot.

I think the answer to my question is that lynching Wryly > lynching Pie because Wryly knew exactly who scum was (REF). Scum probably didn’t factor in the fact that Weyly could’ve revealed the list after her death in twilight.

Until I CCed Wryly, scum probably were running under the assumption that Kohai was the TP. With the CC, they knew for a fact that Wryly was the TP and that’s why she was going after scum (REF).

The issue though is why REF + Vader/WF would vote Wryly in the first place. Because a Pie lynch there wins them the game. 4-2-1 becomes 2-2-1. At the same time, I think this is a red herring in the sense that it doesn’t matter WHY they voted Wryly over me. The point is all 3 did.

The issue though is why REF + Vader/WF would vote Wryly in the first place. Because a Pie lynch there wins them the game. 4-2-1 becomes 2-2-1. At the same time, I think this is a red herring in the sense that it doesn’t matter WHY they voted Wryly over me. The point is all 3 did.

It's plausible that they thought I was the third party which would explain why Rex has been so fixiated on lynching me.

Vote Count

RexFavilla (2/3) | Vader, Kohai <-- L1

Kohai (1/3) | RexFavilla

Not voting: whiteflame, ILikePie5

I doubt we will get much more out of this day phase. Is there anything we want to discuss before the day ends?

Thoth isn’t on rn anyways I think, we have time. I would prefer everyone submit their actions ahead of time tho

What does his role are say about how the recruitment works

Agreed

Why whiteflame over vader for recruit?

It depends on the recruitment mechanic. It sounds custom. Based on how that works, it will give more information

It depends on the recruitment mechanic. It sounds custom. Based on how that works, it will give more information

Rex's role card will give us tons of info.

Think this post by vader could be TMI:

It also seems like there are 2 forms of contracts being offered. I’m curious about how people got 2 different items but seemingly everyone got something. Weird

Rex's role card will give us tons of info.

Yea, that’s why I’m asking Supa for more details

If Rex's role card does mention more than 1 contract form then he is basically confirmed scum.

If Rex's role card does mention more than 1 contract form then he is basically confirmed scum. 

Probably. Need the details though.

It makes sense for a REF/Vader team to lynch Wryly over me though. Cause I wouldn’t have pursued REF and would’ve settled for a Kohai lynch

Yeah. I'm beginning to think it's vader over whiteflame given vader admitted to accepting the contract plus a few other things. But again I'm also going a bit insane with the recruitment mechanisms.

It honestly doesn’t say anything about how his recruitment works. It describes his character as granting them wishes in exchange for turning them into madical girls, but they also hide how they are either turned into a witch or die fighting one. The only mechanical thing was the Escape Wolf mention and his role he got

READ THE FUCKING END THREAD I CANT BE SCUM

Kriemhild Gretchen's labyrinth dissipates around a player who is still alive. They somehow escape unharmed. Because they were not lynched, a random Townie, who may or may not have been the witch's target, will be given their choice of Permanent Roleblock or Rolecop, to be used tonight only.