Barry Mafia - DP2

Is your Strengthener an x-shot

Again, I thoroughly apologize to everyone for my low activity level. I think I have to claim, even if it's only to get out of the grave I dug (no offense to Cerulean) for myself by being inactive.

Yes you do. And I’m glad you did.

I am Barry Berkman, Strengthener. Each night, I can choose a player and make their action immune to blocks or redirects. Justification is that Barry got other people tangled into his misadventures with the criminal underworld, which led them into committing acts that they would not have done otherwise. Last night, I used it on Wryly because she was my strongest townread.

Hmm. Barry is definitely in the game as the main character. Could he be scum? Maybe. This claim further implicates Shining though. The role is a direct counter to the Roleblock aspect

The reason I thought Lunatic's Informed Townie message about someone's role being a greater nuisance than they know might refer to me is because I could override Shining's Jailkeeper. When I got my role PM, I figured that my role was in this setup to counter a scum roleblocker or redirector of some kind. There probably is one in the setup because I don't think my role is purely negative utility, especially not with Cerulean likely being a Gravedigger, but I didn't know that, if I targeted a mafiosi, I could potentially nullify a town roleblocker and/or a town protective.

This doesn’t make any sense to me, but it’s a red herring regardless. We won’t know what the nuisance is until endgame.

I would still like your reads

I'm unsure of the implications on Shining's claim. Strengthener implies scum have an RB and Shining could be a scum RB claiming Jailbreaker as a cover. Everyone who's claimed or flipped has a major character from season 1 except Shining. Jim Moss seems like a bit of a pull.

I like this theme analysis. I’ll also say that my character is in season 1 as well, so it fits the analysis.

Question, Shining- why didn't you try to roleblock me? It's clear that you did and still do suspect me, and with my claim, I likely would have carried the nightkill, if scum, since being seen wouldn't be incriminating. If you thought Pie was a PR, blocking him would have cost his action as well.

+1

Is your character from season 1

I don't believe WF would discard Barry from the game, and frankly it would surprise me if the main character was on the Mafia side of the theme split. This means that, unfortunately, game is hard.

I wouldn’t discount Barry being scum. I’ve made games here the main character is scum or outright omitted. Barry is probably in the game, but the character itself is NAI

Yes I paid him to put that in tildes, what of it

Classic girl behavior

Depends if scum decided to straight claim their characters. If the theme is unobvious, they could have. Save their questions for the roles.

From looking at the wiki and such, he seems to be in every season.

But they also die in the most recent season

So he was introduced in season 1?

If the most recent season is season 4

Yes

Rex/Shining/Vader feels like the "easy" POE here.

But I also don't think Mafia games are ever allowed to be easy, unless I'm wolfing.

Sometimes the mafia gods are in our favor. I think Wryly’s behavior is town. Vader is still null to me. Thoth feels better now. I think behaviorally you have improved significantly as well. REF is getting weaker. It’s very plausible that there’s 2 scum in Shining/Vader/REF imo. But I am paranoid that Gravedigger was one of the questions asked and not even in the game

You know, I am sick of having the justification conversation every game. Its utterly meaningless most times.

Thats fine, address the rest of the points. The complete 180 explanation you gave was just “muh vibes”

I will say that, if Shining flips Jailkeeper, I'm still going to believe there's a scum roleblocker or redirector. I don't think my role is just negative utility.

How is your role negative utility? Strengtheners are neutral. They can prevent scum and town actions from being blocked or manipulated

He means if there is no scum roleblocker and only a Jailkeeper in the game it would mean his Strengthener is only there to counter a townie role, ergo negative utility (I think)

What do you think of the possibility of a 3P

He means if there is no scum roleblocker and only a Jailkeeper in the game it would mean his Strengthener is only there to counter a townie role, ergo negative utility (I think)

But he can strengthen the townies as well so they can’t be blocked.

What do you think of the possibility of a 3P

It’s possible but probably unlikely. 6-2-1 is pretty anti-town assuming the 3P can joint win with scum as well. Town would be denied a 3rd lynch of their choosing, which doesn’t make sense to me.

Was thinking a winsteal

Just south of an hour remaining in the DP.

Gonna be busy soon so

VTL Shining

I’ll be online to hammer. If anyone has any thoughts, now would be the time

Votes:

Vader (1/4): RexFavilla

Shining (3/4): Vader, Thoth, Wryly

Cerulean (1/4): Shining

Barry: "You are fսckin' nuts, man. Also, I know you're on a farm or something because I can hear goats in the background."

Fuches: "Maybe I'm at the zoo! With my new best friend!"

Barry: "Thought you said you were at a hospital."

(cue Fuches screaming angrily into the phone before throwing it.)

Just under 30 minutes left in the DP.

VTL Shining

STOP POSTING

Final Vote Count:

Shining (4/4): Vader, Thoth, Wryly, Pie

Vader (1/4): RexFavilla

Cerulean (1/4): Shining

Shining was lynched! He was... innocent!

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