Ted Lasso Mafia DP3

Sam Obisanya,1x Activist. Seems to be a custom role because I can't find it on the wiki, but it lets me pick one player during the night, and the next day phase, I will control that person's vote as well as my own. Waived both NPs bc I've had no time to think about the game and forgot this is MYLO. Justification is Sam is a beloved team member who inspires his team to protest Dubai Air.

Played poorly this game between taking care of my grandmother and dealing with the winter conditions in the country, and with me being late with my vote DP1 I look pretty bad too; doubtless why scum has kept me alive. Really wishing we could've heard Kohai's results so far before he was NK'd.

In my defense I can only say that I've been busy and I was just 30 seconds late with a post.

I don't sus Banana, so for me it's between whiteflame and Mag1cman.

In the future I don't think I'll be agreeing to "low activity" games even though it was nice of Luna to make an exception for us busies. Definitely enjoy the game less when I invest less time in it. I miss chewing over the details and rereading the day phases.

Woah. I'm not comfortable VTNLing here.

Flo Collins, Vanilla

The role pm is basically a description of her and what she does in the series. I think the justification is the part where it talks about her bringing out the best in Rebecca and being truthful to her, even when the truth hurts. Like I said last DP, feels half-assed.

Was trying to draw scum's attention away from an actual PR, since y'all were making things too easy for scum by outing characters. Either they saw through it or they had Kohai down as a kill earlier in the game.

I think the big for me this DP is if Wryly is trying a gambit

Damn, lost our Cop. In retrospect, I should've guessed that Rebecca Welton was the hidden Miller. Pie's flip pointing to her was only part of the reason I pushed for his lynch, but I had called out that she'd be an odd choice for scum. Should've just gone with my gut on that.

Sam Obisanya,1x Activist. Seems to be a custom role because I can't find it on the wiki, but it lets me pick one player during the night, and the next day phase, I will control that person's vote as well as my own. Waived both NPs bc I've had no time to think about the game and forgot this is MYLO. Justification is Sam is a beloved team member who inspires his team to protest Dubai Air.

I guess it wouldn't be impossible for you to have selected a different name for the role to make it sound more appropriate to the character, but the closest thing I've found to this role is Votebuyer, which would be a first for me to see used (I had to search the page to find this). Not the biggest fan of your not having used it because it makes your role entirely unconfirmable, but it wouldn't necessarily be alignment indicative if you had.

Played poorly this game between taking care of my grandmother and dealing with the winter conditions in the country, and with me being late with my vote DP1 I look pretty bad too; doubtless why scum has kept me alive. Really wishing we could've heard Kohai's results so far before he was NK'd.

Sorry to hear it. I hope everything's OK back home with you now, especially with your grandmother. As for Kohai, I get keeping it secret, just a shame we don't get any info from him. I will be going back through the previous DP to see if he gave any indication of who he copped, since he probably found they were innocent (otherwise he would've outed his result).

I don't sus Banana, so for me it's between whiteflame and Mag1cman.

Fair selection.

If anyone needs a reason to believe I'm town, here you go

Honestly I don’t care for either Rex or Shining. Shining’s lazy like usual but post 30 is weird to me. The thought process is literally just that is probably not Kohai by the numbers… which just ignores past setups. Also opens the door to arguments for any guilty result being the hidden miller.

I actually wouldn’t mind claims from both.

VTL Shining

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Shining’s actually my top scumread.

127

I don’t doubt he has the role. It’s like Banana’s popular claim, people are gonna test it.

The issue here is that scum can, in fact, be ascetic.

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Shining’s still probably the lynch here.

VTL Shining

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Well, if Pie was shot out of nowhere it’s probably a sign mafia wanted him dead.

Which is probably a sign he was accurate with his read on Shining

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Yeah let’s just finish what we started

VTL Shining

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You're turn

*your

Woah. I'm not comfortable VTNLing here.

Did Wryly suggest this? I don't see it.

Flo Collins, Vanilla

The role pm is basically a description of her and what she does in the series. I think the justification is the part where it talks about her bringing out the best in Rebecca and being truthful to her, even when the truth hurts. Like I said last DP, feels half-assed.

Appreciate your giving this info without pressure this DP as promised.

And this is where I'll give my fullclaim as well:

As I said last DP, I'm Keeley Jones. I am Vanilla.

I mentioned I was surprised that I have a justification because, unlike so many Vanilla justifications I've seen, this one really makes sense without squinting. Luna mentioned that her strength is mainly demonstrated through her words and actions (she literally does PR for AFC Richmond), which fits well with the whole "influence others without your voice" element that always comes with the Vanilla role. Well-played, Luna.

At least at first blush, I buy Wryly's character and role more than Mag1c's. The 3 Vanillas are a factor, but Flo is a significantly more minor character than anyone else that has been claimed/flipped so far. I'll be spending some time digging back into the previous two DPs before providing more thoughts, but I figured I should start with this beforehand.

Did Wryly suggest this? I don't see it.

If Wryly's gambiting VTNLing could be an instant loss

If Wryly's gambiting VTNLing could be an instant loss

Ah, I see, you meant it would be a risk that Wryly would use this role or something similar and just end the game next DP if we did VTNL. Got it.

At least at first blush, I buy Wryly's character and role more than Mag1c's. The 3 Vanillas are a factor, but Flo is a significantly more minor character than anyone else that has been claimed/flipped so far. I'll be spending some time digging back into the previous two DPs before providing more thoughts, but I figured I should start with this beforehand.

It's part of the reason I didn't buy Rebecca being vanilla. And you yourself said a minor character could be in the game. What changed?

It's part of the reason I didn't buy Rebecca being vanilla. And you yourself said a minor character could be in the game. What changed?

Same on the first sentence. And yes, I did say that. Nothing has changed, but I can't help but notice that you are the sole outlier here. I can't dismiss that entirely.

That being said, I'm already a little hesitant with my initial read. A few things stick out to me behaviorally in your favor:

1. I don't think you'd claim Flo given that you knew everyone else's characters at this point. I gave you a list of major characters from which a couple are still missing. You could have chosen any of them, and your risk of claiming a different role and avoiding a CC wouldn't even be that high.
2. I don't see you letting Shining crash out that hard, not with the 2X Redirector on the table. At the very least, I don't think it's likely you'd call that much attention to his claim in particular.
3. I haven't had much time to dig backward yet, but looking at Kohai's posts, he solidly townread you just for pushing back on the massclaim. I found that odd at the time, but it makes me wonder if he copped you innocent. I think it's far less likely that he copped Wryly guilty and just assumed she was the hidden Miller. I'd say it's roughly the same likelihood as him having targeted REF, but it's a factor I'm considering.

Sincerely shocked Roy Kent apparently isn't in this game. He's a massive character from the series and the most obvious one that's missing. And now I'm 99% sure that the other scum is Rupert Mannion. That split just seems too obvious.

Anyway, I'm going to be digging back into the previous two DPs for a while.

If you correct someone's misspelling, you will misspell something yourself before the conversation ends. This is a law of nature and there's no getting around it.

I don't think you'd claim Flo given that you knew everyone else's characters at this point. I gave you a list of major characters from which a couple are still missing. You could have chosen any of them, and your risk of claiming a different role and avoiding a CC wouldn't even be that high.

Yes and no. We all softed. It's fair to say I could've claimed a different category than "other," (so there's truth to this on a macro level), but what you said just isn't correct.

I don't see you letting Shining crash out that hard, not with the 2X Redirector on the table. At the very least, I don't think it's likely you'd call that much attention to his claim in particular.

It's not just that, it's the fact that I would've hard bussed my teammate DP1. For basically all of the DP I had Shining as the #1 guy I wanted dead.

I haven't had much time to dig backward yet, but looking at Kohai's posts, he solidly townread you just for pushing back on the massclaim. I found that odd at the time, but it makes me wonder if he copped you innocent. I think it's far less likely that he copped Wryly guilty and just assumed she was the hidden Miller. I'd say it's roughly the same likelihood as him having targeted REF, but it's a factor I'm considering.

Possible.

Idk man. Some of this logic looks off. Like you're just trying to find reasons to townread me while only sneaking in the big one. Feels like blowing smoke up my ass to get me off you.

Yes and no. We all softed. It's fair to say I could've claimed a different category than "other," (so there's truth to this on a macro level), but what you said just isn't correct.

It's more like I forgot about the softclaim and thought you'd have a broader range of options than you actually did, but fair enough. Flo was at the top of the "Other" list, so she would have stood out as the most likely safe claim in that bunch.

It's not just that, it's the fact that I would've hard bussed my teammate DP1. For basically all of the DP I had Shining as the #1 guy I wanted dead.

Wouldn't be a first for Shining to encourage some bussing even that early (I've been scum with him enough to know), but fair enough that you would have had to push him pretty hard.

Idk man. Some of this logic looks off. Like you're just trying to find reasons to townread me while only sneaking in the big one. Feels like blowing smoke up my ass to get me off you.

If writing out my conflicting thoughts in real time makes it look like I'm blowing smoke up your ass, then I guess we're not reading the same thoughts. I never said you were lock town, just that I had behavioral reasons to townread you and one potential indicator from Kohai's play. I'll be happy to give you a full breakdown when I've had a chance to go through everything.

As for Wryly:

If she's gambiting, this is a crazy gambit. I can understand Wryly feeling the need to gambit since she was everyone's secondary scumread. Votebuyer is pretty crazy. I think there's a few other roles she could gambit. Even not gambiting and just claiming some small PR would probably be better. There is a reason it could be plausible- and it's basically just Shining + Wryly = two mafiosos who have no idea how to claim. But it's still a crazy aggressive move. Why not hide it and VTNL? Maybe she didn't spot such a play and overthought things?

As for her behavior, she did basically nothing the first DP only to vote Wylted after it was over. If she was late, it doesn't change the fact that scum has an incentive to hammer at that point. DP2, not really much to write home about. Lemme go double check what Wylted had to say about her

It's more like I forgot about the softclaim and thought you'd have a broader range of options than you actually did, but fair enough.

I'll give you this.

Flo was at the top of the "Other" list, so she would have stood out as the most likely safe claim in that bunch.

If she was at the top of the list, you mean least? Otherwise you're just contradicting the point you just made.

Wouldn't be a first for Shining to encourage some bussing even that early (I've been scum with him enough to know), but fair enough that you would have had to push him pretty hard.

I doubt he would want to go that far, and regardless, I wouldn't have cared if he encouraged it. If I'm his teammate, I'm not hard-bussing him like that. There's distance, and then there's getting your own teammate lynched. At the time of my first vote on him, I had the choice to pressure him or Wylted. I felt he was scummier than Wylted.

If writing out my conflicting thoughts in real time makes it look like I'm blowing smoke up your ass, then I guess we're not reading the same thoughts. I never said you were lock town, just that I had behavioral reasons to townread you and one potential indicator from Kohai's play. I'll be happy to give you a full breakdown when I've had a chance to go through everything.

Sure.

No idea what you mean about VTNLing, but I'm cold and bleary-eyed

Explain it as you would to a tired moron who just had to change an old lady's diaper after dragging an extension cord into a snowstorm to blow dry a frozen gas tank regulator

Hypothetically

Or a drunk two-year-old

vote to not lynch

the idea is that we limit things down to the final three so there's one less person in the equation to worry about

usually done in evens in mylo, converts the situation to lylo

I don't want to do it here bc if you're gambiting outing your actual role as scum, VTNLing is auto loss

honestly Wryly not knowing she could VTNL and then use her role is apoint in favor of her possibly doing the gambit

Wryly

Kinda did nothing all of last DP, although was busy. I don't like her vote at the end of last DP, and this DP, I don't like how she pressed on after I got online, whilst everyone else listened to me.

She is however, asking some ok questions about the situation at hand. Yes, I got a justification, although it feels half-assed.

So here's my read of Wryly from DP2. I forgot about a few of these points. Asking questions is fine, I still don't like continuing to press for claims after I hard rejected doing so.

At least Whiteflame respected it, although he played a role in starting the mass soft