Ruyi Zhuan Mafia DP3

She’s not new anymore lol. She literally fake outrage at Mikal for 4 DPs straight to hard bus him and they both won that game

mikal took the lead on all of that plus i got lynched in the end on that one. also if ur saying i was outrage in that one what r u saying the similarity is here cuz im not outraged

got super behind ar work. Be back later today

Can you share this game

not necessarily. what if it Vader was gonna do something he passionately thought was to help town but I saw it differently. like say he could kill wryly or something. i townread wryly so i would probably veto that. also if he is t doing something like that im just gonna not use the role so it doesn’t matter. it should only be used against me if i use it in a scummy way, which im not gonna.

That makes zero sense. You’re going to veto the mod confirmed town and their decision because you disagree with it? The only reason to not follow the town confirmed person is if you’re scum.

im jus sayin ur scum reading me for my actual role that i have is actually silly. i have no control over the role the mod gave me. are u just going to blame the mod when ur wrong here or what

Yes, if you flip town, that role is bastard, and I will blame the REF.

i agreed with the scum tells and plus we needed to get lynched off. would it be better if i never voted at all? n the part about me never to be seen again is wrong, ive been here and ive been open about my reads all game. ive been just as active as u if not more so i dont wanna hear that

So you agreed with the scumtells that other people described. Thats the definition of bandwagoning. You just voted and never showed up for the end of the DP.

sounds like u have a bit of an ego there…

i reject that i am being disgenuous… 

Ego? LMFAOOOOO.

ur purposely ignoring the part about synergy and gaslighting my argument. 2 EVEN night slanderers. my benefactor and kohais is odd/even. even Whiteflame agreed this is odd

So again. Do you think I’m lying about the fact that I have an even night slanderer? Like what? I can literally prove it tonight lol.

that’s an opinion not a fact, and it happens to be wa wrong opinion bcuz i am town and this is my real role

Fine, I’ll entertain this. If I’m scum, who am I scum with?

yes i do n ill use the same argument Whiteflame jus used on me, if you haven’t proved ur role yet you cant say ur confirmable like it means anything just like i cant yet because there was no even night phase 

My Lynchproof is a passive. It can’t be roleblocked. As long as I get enough favor, I will basically be confirmed town. Giving lynchproof to scum makes zero sense.

my response to this is the same as the above. y do you get a pass to live to confirm ur role but I don’t 

My role is akin to affiliation confirmation lol. Giving scum a lynchproof? That makes no sense

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12728-gameshow-mafia-endgame

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12687-game-show-mafia-dp1

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12699-game-show-mafia-dp2

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12710-game-show-mafia-dp3

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12725-game-show-mafia-dp4

https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/12727-game-show-mafia-dp5

Game back on DART, the predecessor to DC

Page 14/15 of DP1 is where the Mikal/Banana bus flames up

anyways I don’t really have time to keep

responding to everything pie is saying here, n it’s getting repetitive. here’s what I’ll say tho, pie is making a lot of assumptions about balance and mechs that he can’t possibly know n that are heavily based on his opinion but disregarding my own opinions about a cc with an even night slanderers. he keeps making excuses for himself but is bein a giant hypocrite. its okay to use bad logic to accuse me but he uses the same logic to defend himself. u all can read everything and see it for ur selves but he is not arguing in good faith, his sole intention is to get me mislynched at all costs.

i am town. i really dont know what more to say other than it sucks to be lynched bcuz people are choosing not to believe my role. idk what to do about that. this is the role the mod gave me. at least i wasn’t directly cced like pie was.

Vote Count

ILikePie - 3/5 Wylted, Lunatic, Banana

Wryly - 1/5 Magoroth 

Banana - 1/5 ILikePie

Kohai - 1/5 Whiteflame

Approximately 5.5 hours remaining in the DP

Here, catching up

As for where I'm leaning atm, I can't say I like how attention has gone almost completely off of Kohai despite his being pretty commonly in a lot of our POE. I agree with Luna's point about the lack of interaction between these two, which strikes me as odd even with Pie's absences. Even if Pie claims he doesn't have access to his lynchproof next DP, I think a scum flip on Kohai puts the spotlight on Pie next DP.

Regarding Banana, her entreaties about what's wrong with her behaviorally come off as decently townie to me, which hold me back from posting a vote on her. It's mainly that Siren role that is setting me off. I get that the game includes a Miller that unlocks with favor too, but this is much more actively anti-town and apparently available to her early. I don't know why she'd announce that she has a role like this, particularly if she has access to a fake claim, so that's making me hesitant.

If the drive is to lynch Pie, I get why, I just don't think it's the best choice we can make right now. Hence, my vote's going on Kohai.

VTL Kohai

So you think the favor you were given by awesome5000 was actually the work of a scum role of his, or do you believe he really has an even night Adjudicator that he straight claimed? Since Mikal has an Adjudicator as well, it does fit this pattern of doubled roles.

How can you prove even night slanderer on an odd night?

This NP is going to be an even night NP, per the OP in DP2:

”The palace enters a state of mourning as the funeral arrangements proceed. The next NP will be skipped. This thread will contain DP2. If majority is reached within 72 hours, DP3 will immediately begin after the flip. If 72 hours is reached without majority, DP3will begin without a lynch. The NP following DP3 will still be NP2 (even abilities).”

So I see the largest wagon is on a player who is saying he can confirm himself tomorrow. wylted says he thinks this is just a way for scum to try to get into MYLO/LYLO. Is this the reasoning for the rest of you to discard the promise of confirmation as well?

Also, do you believe Rex gave Pie a duplicate power (even night slanderer) as a fake claim?

If someone can answer why REF would give town would give town a role that can only Roleblock mod-confirmed town, I will literally vote myself. I’m tired of all this bs. Pie is scummy cause he feels off. No shit. I’ve been bombed at work. This is obviously not how I play. Everyone here has seen how I play. It’s retarded.

I could as easily ask why Rex would hand out a fake claim that only roleblocks mod-confirmed town

So you think the favor you were given by awesome5000 was actually the work of a scum role of his, or do you believe he really has an even night Adjudicator that he straight claimed? Since Mikal has an Adjudicator as well, it does fit this pattern of doubled roles.

Given the setup, I think there's a more than decent chance that scum was given one of those doubled roles, giving them an opportunity to confirm their night action with someone else. If Pie's claim ends up being accurate, he'll be in the same boat, just doubled with Wylted instead. So yes, his odd night role could just be one that gives out favor. I don't have any idea if his even night role is the Adjudicator, but I guess it would make sense for that to be a doubled role with Mikal's.

She seems to be going along with the base level POV. So extremely safe type of thinking that goes along with the crowd and actions that do as well

True enough, just don't think I'm townreading her for that. Not scumreading her for it, either.

I think that if he’s telling the truth about lynchproof, he can’t be scum.

Tough decision. Banana has come across pretty townie to me in her recent posts, but I'm very tempted to let Pie confirm himself tomorrow. I don't know if we have the votes to pull off a Kohai lynch. No matter who I vote for I'm going to have doubts.

Sorry if I missed it, but who are you VTLing?

Why do you have a vote on me, or is your brain just tired and couldn't rationalize a Lunatic lynch anymore so it sluggishly defaulted to your next hobby horse scumread

I could as easily ask why Rex would hand out a fake claim that only roleblocks mod-confirmed town

Is it a fake claim tho or is she claiming her true role as scum? It’s all WIFOM. We had the scummiest man alive in Mago not get lynched cause of this WIFOM.

I think that if he’s telling the truth about lynchproof, he can’t be scum. 

Exactly, so why not let me prove it? It’s the closest thing you can get to affiliation confirmation

Tough decision. Banana has come across pretty townie to me in her recent posts, but I'm very tempted to let Pie confirm himself tomorrow. I don't know if we have the votes to pull off a Kohai lynch. No matter who I vote for I'm going to have doubts.

It’s just a continuation of Awesome. Just shut up and not say anything. I’m tempted to vote him as well but I feel more strongly about wryly

Why can't Pie be lynch proof scum?

Lynchproof scum sounds ridiculously overpowered lol

It is, but I wouldn't put it past Pie to either lie or otherwise hide the truth.

Why can't Pie be lynch proof scum?

Because it would break the game. Town doesn't win until all mafia are eliminated.

If Pie is scum I'm betting the Lynchproof passive is a lie and he has some other plan for DP4. He could claim he did not receive enough favor for it to activate, and if Vader claims that he gave favor, he could claim the favor was stolen. Or he really does have some kind of scum 1x power that will get him out of a lynch, like you did last game.

It is, but I wouldn't put it past Pie to either lie or otherwise hide the truth.

Look into my eyes. I’m not lying.