Legend of Zelda - The Mafia Game (dp3)

Do you really not know? Can’t you just ask Kohai? It’s your role

You do realise Wylted’s role could easily be make-believe, right? Like, he might not even be Inventor. The bodyguard ability has thus far not been confirmed, he gave it to Mag1cman (supposedly), who made no mention of having received an item. I doubt he wouldn’t have at least soft-claimed something along those lines.

Why are you so quick to trust him?

I mean, there’s no question here, right? Rex claimed 1X BG at the end of the last DP. Wryly/Thoth were the BG. Rex is the obvious lynch.

This is the type of thing I would expect a scum to say when bussing. Whiteflame was one of the first too.

You do realise Wylted’s role could easily be make-believe, right? Like, he might not even be Inventor. The bodyguard ability has thus far not been confirmed, he gave it to Mag1cman (supposedly), who made no mention of having received an item. I doubt he wouldn’t have at least soft-claimed something along those lines.

Why are you so quick to trust him?

Because it would be the most bafflingly bastard thing I’ve ever seen a mod do if Kohai gave a scum player a role that gifts any kind of Day Cop to another player. It’s not great that there’s apparently a Day Cop in this game, but giving the role to scum would be next level shitty setup.

As for the role being entirely make believe, I’m relying on you being accurate about what you know there. We know there’s one other scum beyond REF, so if you’re verifying that you received and used this role from Wylted, then I’m buying that it’s not made up.

Whether the BG gifting was true or not isn’t really all that material to my read, especially given that Mag1c was such a wreck most of the last DP.

I think Pie is Townier than either one of Whiteflame/Wylted. He seems to be the only one actually invested in solving this game. Wylted is just obsessed with his flavour cop role for some reason, but him pushing me to make up my mind so quickly is so over the top it almost seems like it shouldn’t come from scum.

This is the type of thing I would expect a scum to say when bussing. Whiteflame was one of the first too.

Literally everyone has called REF scum at this point, so bussing is a given. And though you say among the first, several others were calling him on his claim at the end of the last DP.

Why would scum being able to give out Day Cop be so bastard? It’s not like it’s particularly useful to them. It could even be the case that the DayCop gives erroneous results, like a Naive Cop (or like a Cop + Lawyer combination), so it might not be that crazy.

That was before there was a Bodyguard flip, which for some reason, that I don’t actually understand, makes people think he has to be scum? Wtf? Why can’t there be two Bodyguards? We don’t know what roles scum has.

Wylted yesterday said there’s a resistance on Lunatic, coming from you, which I don’t understand. I didn’t notice any special resistance against flipping Lunatic. Also, the train on him literally came outra nowhere.

What made you say there was resistance to Lunatic’s lynch?

Bodyguard

Bodyguard/Redirector

Bodyguard/Flavour Cop

Could all these roles exist on the Town side? Bodyguard is not an especially powerful role.

Can you please confirm or deny whether you are an Investigative role or not? I think three bodyguards and two investigatives might be too strong, not sure. It’s an unusual setup for sure.

Why would scum being able to give out Day Cop be so bastard? It’s not like it’s particularly useful to them. It could even be the case that the DayCop gives erroneous results, like a Naive Cop (or like a Cop + Lawyer combination), so it might not be that crazy.

In the OP, Kohai said:

”There are also no hidden modifiers or roles.”

So, no, not possible that you were given a Naive Flavor Cop. Either town gave you a real Day Cop or scum did.

That was before there was a Bodyguard flip, which for some reason, that I don’t actually understand, makes people think he has to be scum? Wtf? Why can’t there be two Bodyguards? We don’t know what roles scum has.

We know there are two BG roles in play. We know one of them was Thoth/Wryly. We know either Wylted or REF are lying. Wylted has additional support for his role, namely you receiving the Day Cop.

Governor

Cop (used from N2+ onwards every two nights)

Bodyguard

Vanilla

Vanilla

Bodyguard/Redirector

Bodyguard/Flavour Cop

(Likely Investigative)

?

If I’m not mistaken these are literally the claims.

If Pie is investigative, two of these bodyguards could keep him and the Cop alive for two nights. It’s strong, but not that strong. I don’t know what to think. With the Cop being odd-even night, maybe two bodyguards isn’t such a stretch. Not sure about the third one.

Why can’t it be both of them? Suppose his role that he gave me is a complete lie and my day action does literally nothing, just a role like “Give out a fake role during the day. They will receive whatever feedback you decide.”

Why can’t it be both of them? Suppose his role that he gave me is a complete lie and my day action does literally nothing, just a role like “Give out a fake role during the day. They will receive whatever feedback you decide.”

That would be a hidden mechanic. You wouldn’t know it exists, so that would fall into a “hidden modifier.” But if you want to verify that, you can always check with Kohai.

Besides, if he even is Town, assuming all three are somehow Town (which implies Pie and you scum), his role is a weak version of Bodyguard because he could easily give out Bodyguard to scum, for whom Bodyguard isn’t a particularly dangerous role to use. So somehow his claim I am not factoring in as a proper bodyguard.

I would guess scum has the ability to counter at most one bodyguard role per night, plus some crazy Lawyer/Bus Driver/Framer. That makes the three BG theory seem less crazy, although admittedly a little bit of a stretch.

I’m sure I asked you this before, but, what is your justification for you’re a Redirector/Bodyguard?

Okay, so I just received confirmation my role Wylted gave me CANNOT be a lie. Assuming no manipulation roles act on me or my target (not even sure how a manipulation role could affect me without targeting my target), my ability is 100% guaranteed to do exactly what it says it does.

So Wylted is telling the truth about that part of his role.

OK. Gonna take a leap of faith here and

VTL RexFavilla

If I’m wrong, then so be it, but it seems unlikely I am wrong. If I am, GG scum.

Vote REF and end this day. I am anxious for a flip.

Vote count

Rex (1/3) Mag

It is LyLo. Your first vote is final.

Yeah, I don’t see a reason to drag this out. There is one obvious scum, we can work on who his partner is next DP.

VTL Rex

I’ll respond and hammer when I get home. If Wylted hammers before me that’s fine.

Alright

VTL RexFavilla

Rex was lynched. He was guilty. Submit night actions asap