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Andor Mafia DP3

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ISO #121 •••
--> @Banana
idk any suggestions?


I was gonna say your strongest townread, sorry got busy


well whiteflame was in my POE but it would take a unanimous vote to lynch him now


Will be on later tonight

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ISO #122 •••
--> @Thoth
I am the towniest town to ever town, but I couldn't fault any of y'all for mislynching me here. It's at least indirectly my own ass fault (that should be the name of a paving company) for neglecting my list of night actions. I do ask you all to seriously consider whether or not, if I were scum, Kohai would be okay with me claiming Vigilante knowing that I could not fake-confirm myself with a second kill last night. Even in the Suikoden game where I pulled that Leprechaun claim out of my ass a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, I only did it because Lunatic either approved it or did not make it clear enough that he did not approve it.


What do you mean by list of night actions?


And I really wouldn't put it past Kohai to sign off on even night vig. Inactive scumchat could also be to blame.


I know this is basically a moot point since it could probably be applied to all our claims, but do you really think I took the risk of asking about Saw Gerrera and got lucky that he wasn't in the game, instead of asking about someone more minor?


If you didn't know much about the theme, you could've thought Saw was minor. He does only appear in three episodes of Andor.


Serious question. Aside from neglecting my night actions, since I'm probably about to get lynched and definitely going to flip innocent if I do, any suggestions for how I could have played this better?


The case against you, in my opinion, is down to the fact that you did not confirm your role, you have yet to make the case for why scum would either give town an extra day phase or NK Magoroth (a mislynch target), and I guess also that I have twice asked you what you meant by "a particular soft that would help me use my role best", and you still haven't answered.


If you're town, we also still have one more chance to lynch correctly.

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ISO #123 •••

"There is one type of soft that would help me because it would help me figure out how best to use my role."

~ wylted claims Martyr ~

"Ah yes, this is what I meant when I said a specific soft claim could help me!"



I continue to be confused by this. What soft claim could have helped you identify which player was the Martyr? How would that have helped you figure out how best to use your role?

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ISO #124 •••
--> @Wryly

Ordered list of targets for my Vigilante, as in: kill this player, then if they aren’t around to be shot, kill this player instead…


I probably only needed two people in that list, but I put everyone on it just in case.

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ISO #125 •••

I wanted someone to softclaim whether or not their role was very likely to change the number of deaths in any phase. Muh mislynch math

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ISO #126 •••

I don’t know why they NKed Magoroth. Maybe they thought he would misplace his ghost vote.

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ISO #127 •••
--> @Wryly
If you're town, we also still have one more chance to lynch correctly.

“I still have two more days to finish this essay…” We know where procrastination leads. We should aim to get it right every time.

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ISO #128 •••

I really believe it’s Lunatic. Could be whiteflame. I’m not seeing any real case for Banana or Wryly.

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ISO #129 •••
--> @Thoth
I don’t know why they NKed Magoroth. Maybe they thought he would misplace his ghost vote.

Mago is in the POE. I would buy that they forfeited the kill to frame you over them killing mago.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #130 •••
--> @Thoth
I wanted someone to softclaim whether or not their role was very likely to change the number of deaths in any phase. Muh mislynch math


Lol, and you thought people would be okay with softing that?

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ISO #131 •••
--> @Thoth
“I still have two more days to finish this essay…” We know where procrastination leads. We should aim to get it right every time.


Why don't we just lynch you and then Lunatic. That would still nail your top scumread


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ISO #132 •••
--> @Banana, @Thoth, @whiteflame, @Wryly

Lets get a decision in soonish. Me or thoth, lynch the other tomorrow. I cant die tonight so if you think your just gonna lynch me tomorrow, you can lynch me today so we dont have a mylo headache. Or thoth is just scum and we win. who knows

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #133 •••

vtl thoth

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ISO #134 •••
--> @Thoth
I don’t know why they NKed Magoroth. Maybe they thought he would misplace his ghost vote.


Would've been way smarter to keep him alive until LYLO and cultivate suspicion around him. What incentive do they have to kill him and let him vote in LYLO when he has the potential to fuck with their plans the most?

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ISO #135 •••
--> @Thoth

I plan on hammering soon, so might as well confess.

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ISO #136 •••
--> @Wryly
I plan on hammering soon, so might as well confess.

I didn't know you felt that way about me

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ISO #137 •••
--> @Wryly
Why don't we just lynch you and then Lunatic. That would still nail your top scumread

I would not blame you for it.

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ISO #138 •••
--> @Wryly
Lol, and you thought people would be okay with softing that?

No, of course not. That’s why I didn’t ask anyone to do it. I said it to hint at my role so you could see in hindsight that I didn’t make it up later, or, at least, that I would have locked myself into fewer fake-claims if I were scum.

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ISO #139 •••
--> @Wryly
Would've been way smarter to keep him alive until LYLO and cultivate suspicion around him. What incentive do they have to kill him and let him vote in LYLO when he has the potential to fuck with their plans the most?

Hell if I know. I can’t see scum chat. It would depend on scum’s reads and guesses at how Mago would vote and who would make it to the final day phase.

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ISO #140 •••
--> @Lunatic
Mago is in the POE. I would buy that they forfeited the kill to frame you over them killing mago.

I really hope you meant he was in the POE. I have a hard time buying that theory now, as much as I want to believe it. It would take some serious WIFOM to extend the game by a mislynch just to frame me. Makes me wonder if scum have a play tonight that they think will damn near guarantee a mislynch tomorrow.

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ISO #141 •••

If scum actually waived to frame me, I am very eager to learn who did it and why

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ISO #142 •••
--> @Thoth
I really hope you meant he was in the POE

Duh

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #143 •••
--> @whiteflame

wya

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #144 •••

I’m here, just gimme a few minutes to write out my thoughts.

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ISO #145 •••

am big tired


hammer soon


wait for fire man to post

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ISO #146 •••

The long and short of it is that my POE is mainly between Luna and Thoth. The only alternative is that Banana is scum, and that would require me to believe that Savant gave scum this specific role just to be townread for using it. I find that harder to believe, so I'm treating Banana as town at this point.


Between Luna and Thoth, it's mainly a matter of what happened during the last NP that's bothering me. Neither of them have mechanical confirmation, but Thoth's is particularly jarring given the lack of support for his Vig, which should have been confirmed last night. If scum opted not to do the NK, that would be baffling since that would have put them at MYLO. I don't think they opted to kill Mago at the same time he did, so either they made the choice to pass on the NK, or Thoth is scum and this is his cover. I agree with him that Kohai likely didn't sign off on a fake Vig strategy, but it doesn't look like Kohai was thinking through his strategy much, either.


So if the choice is between two unconfirmed players, I'm going to pick the one who should be confirmed over the one who might have been.


VTL Thoth

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ISO #147 •••

wow way to steal my hammer thunder

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ISO #148 •••
--> @Wryly

Damn, didn’t realize you wanted that. Sorry, going all Thor on you here.

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ISO #149 •••
--> @whiteflame

mjolnir did not find me worthy 😭

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ISO #150 •••
--> @Wryly
mjolnir did not find me worthy 😭


That’s the hammer’s problem. It was never good enough for you.

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