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#1 •••

This game is based on gamers who are based. Yes, you. The peanut gallery has taken over the asylum.

Boilerplate Day 1 OP Stuff That We Should All Mostly Know Anyway

  1. Do not copy-paste from your role PM. (There is one exception to this rule. You will know if it's you. So don't do it unless I have explicitly given you permission.) Do not post anything that looks like it was copy-pasted from a role card. This rule does not apply to quoting one or a few words to convey basic information, e.g., your role and character. The reasonable person test applies. If you are not sure whether or not you paraphrased enough, ask me. Do not use generative AI, e.g., ChatGPT, to paraphrase your PM. Avoid talking about the formatting of role PMs.
  2. Do not edit or delete messages.
  3. Do not post while dead or like posts while dead.
  4. Voting and unvoting in the same post is fine. Do not cast more than one vote in the same post.
  5. I will announce MYLO / LYLO. Votes can't be removed during MYLO / LYLO.
  6. Until the game is over, do not discuss it outside the approved channels, i.e., the day thread, moderator PMs, and faction chats.
  7. Do not use cryptography or otherwise post anything in the day thread with the intention of obscuring it so that only specific player(s) can read it.
  8. Be as bitchy as you want unless and until someone asks me to cool things down.
  9. I reserve the right to add commonplace or common-sense rules at any time.

Game Information

You are strongly encouraged to read everything in this section.

I use "players" to mean people who signed up for this game, and "characters" to mean the people mentioned in role PMs. So if your username on here is Thoth and your role PM says you are whiteflame, your player is Thoth and your character is whiteflame.


Roles have been assigned randomly. That should go without saying, but I might as well say it, if only to be the change I want to see.


Your character can be yourself. I wanted to avoid this by re-rolling as long as somebody was themselves, but knowing that somebody can't be a certain character could be too powerful information.


There is a theme split. Scum have been told what it is. It's not meant to be especially hard to figure out.


Role justifications and the theme split are based only on people as Mafia players. So, there are no justifications about someone's day job or real-life theme splits like women versus men.


Some justifications are clear and direct, and others are loosey-goosey. This is to give scum more leeway in fake-claiming.


The only requirement for being a character in this game is having played or hosted at least one forum Mafia game on DebateCraft. I believe this list is complete, but if there's an error or two, it doesn't really change the game.


Airmax1227

AnonYmous_Icon

awesome5000

Banana

Casey_Risk

Cerulean

ILikePie5

Kohai

Lunatic

Mag1cman

Magoroth

McDonaldsReal

Mikal

Ragnar

RexFavilla

Savant

Shining

Skipper

Thoth

Ultracrepidarian

unsaid

Vader

whiteflame

Wryly

wylted


Which of these characters are in the game was not chosen randomly. I mainly picked regulars, but I also included at least one player who would not be considered a regular or to have had much impact on this site's Mafia community. I also aimed for a healthy mix of people playing in this game versus people not playing in this game.


Scum have been given at least two character fake-claims that would be town according to the theme split. They can also get correct answers to three questions about whether or not a role is in the game. They may use these questions at any time.


The alignment split is either 7 town / 2 scum or 6 town / 2 scum / 1 third-party. If there is a third-party, their character would be town according to the theme split, their win condition is only to survive until the end of the game, they count as town for scum parity, and they have been given a role fake-claim.


In Madoka Magica, I had a rules question policy, but I didn't really follow it. In this game, I am using a more liberal question policy that I will strictly enforce. I will answer basically any question about role effects and interactions, even for hypothetical roles, 'hypothetical' meaning it's not your role, it hasn't flipped, and you haven't seen it in an investigative result. However, you must describe any hypothetical roles you ask rules questions about, even if they are common roles like Cop or Tracker. This is because: (1) different people might use the same name for different roles or vice versa; (2) if I can't promptly answer your question, it could tip you off that the role(s) you asked about are not in the game.


Town win when all threats to town have been eliminated. Mafia win at scum parity, i.e., when there are at least as many scum alive as non-scum. If there are neutrals, they have their own win conditions.


Plurality lynching is in effect. If a player gets enough votes to kill them, they die and the day ends immediately, putting the thread into twilight until I get around to close it. If a day ends with nobody having enough votes to kill them, the player with the most votes is lynched. If there is a tie for first place, votes are removed starting with the most recent and going backwards. Unvoting and voting again counts as a new vote. If there is still a tie after removing votes, then nobody voted and you should really re-evaluate your priorities.


As usual on here, days will be 72 hours maximum and nights will be 24 hours maximum, but phases might end early. This day phase ends at 6PM Central time on March 15.


Players

1 Lunatic

2 Banana

3 Shining

4 Magoroth

5 ILikePie5

6 RexFavilla

7 wylted

8 Kohai

9 Wryly

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

ISO #2 •••
--> @Banana, @ILikePie5, @Kohai, @Lunatic, @Magoroth, @RexFavilla, @Shining, @Wryly, @wylted

Day 1 up

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

ISO #3 •••

Hype.


VTL Whiteflame



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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #4 •••

Vote Count

ERROR_PLAYER_NOT_PLAYING_IN_THIS_GAME - (1/???) - Kohai

Not voting: Lunatic, Banana, Shining, Magoroth, ILikePie5, RexFavilla, wylted, K-kohai ?..., Wryly

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

ISO #5 •••

Hey there. Plurality lynching is in effect so keep that in mind towards the end of the phase. I assume we can still no lynch though

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #6 •••
--> @Lunatic
I assume we can still no lynch though

You can

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Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.

ISO #7 •••
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ISO #8 •••
--> @wylted
VTL Kohai

Because he is shit at fake claiming


Honestly, yes. 2/2 games as scum he’s failed at fake claiming


VTL Kohai

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ISO #9 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Yea I admit it. I’m a complete retard at mafia and somehow even more retarded when I’m scum.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #10 •••
--> @Kohai

Full claim please

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ISO #11 •••
--> @ILikePie5

I’m not full claiming this year

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #12 •••

Early *

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #13 •••
--> @Kohai
Early *

I was gonna say, I will mark it in my calendar, and vtl you to full claim as soon as january 1st 2027 hits, you mark my words!

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #14 •••

hello ppl

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ISO #15 •••

Hey guys I am either a Popular or Hated. Thoth has randomly picked between the two and I could either of those. Also, I have a visiting role that is basically a meme (Thoth said it was useless, but it does something funny), but its obvious given who my character is. I'll character claim if I must, but I feel like holding off full claiming right now.

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ISO #16 •••
--> @Kohai
Yea I admit it. I’m a complete retard at mafia and somehow even more retarded when I’m scum.


Don't sweat it KoKo. What matters most is to have fun! We're here to make good friends and good memories, not agonize over every little decision and plan them out like we're at work or something lol. The point isn't winning so much as community building and good vibes. It's not a competition, it's an opportunity for connection. Skill and strategy can never take the place of a positive attitude and try-hard spirit and I'm basically just gonna keep going until Pie kills himself

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ISO #17 •••

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention it disables on MYLO/LYLO.

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ISO #18 •••
--> @Shining
Hey guys I am either a Popular or Hated. Thoth has randomly picked between the two and I could either of those. Also, I have a visiting role that is basically a meme (Thoth said it was useless, but it does something funny), but its obvious given who my character is. I'll character claim if I must, but I feel like holding off full claiming right now.


You mean your role card doesn't tell you which you are? That's an interesting turn on things. Not sure how to read this. I wanna give it town points for being so specific, but if you don't know if you're Popular or Hated we can't confirm your role without risking a lynch

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ISO #19 •••

Great, I’m fine putting Earth in the town block

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ISO #20 •••
--> @Lunatic, @Wryly

Let’s get the claim from Kohai

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ISO #21 •••

VTL Pie


Not claiming unless we all do a mass claim.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #22 •••
--> @Kohai

I get why we are pressuring you though. It sucks though lol.

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ISO #23 •••
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ISO #24 •••
--> @Wryly

Okay, so I just reread my DM and I randomly flip between Hated and Popular at the start of each day. Thoth really wanted to spice up my role.

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ISO #25 •••
--> @Shining
I get why we are pressuring you though. It sucks though lol.


Great, vote for him

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ISO #26 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Honestly it feels like low hanging fruit almost. Alright YOLO


VTL Kohai

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ISO #27 •••
--> @wylted

Nah Shining is probably town.

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ISO #28 •••
--> @Shining
Okay, so I just reread my DM and I randomly flip between Hated and Popular at the start of each day. Thoth really wanted to spice up my role.


Lolwut


Are you told whether you're Hated or Popular for the current day phase?

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ISO #29 •••
--> @Wryly

Nope. Thoth tells me jack.

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ISO #30 •••
--> @Wryly

Your vote makes its 4. Let’s go

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