VTNL is retarded here, and it’s scummy to even suggest it.
Vote Mestari plz
Ooh, finally something worth talking about. Why is it alignment indicative for the player who outspokenly thinks DP1 scum hunting is worthless to suggest a VTNL DP1?
Further, once you explain why it is AI, explain why it is SAI.
For research, you can look at the sign up thread and my entire DDO history.
I admit I have not fully read the discord but just went back and read it

"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Gonna be honest. Nobody on mestaris train legitimately scum reads him, so Kohai feels opportunistic here.
Opportunistic or noob? Looks noob to me.
I'm more skeptical of the people who joined this wagon out of nowhere, especially at the tail end.
I still don’t know what to type!
What chat were you supposed to put this in?
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
You are new! That's cute. We have a pup to raise!
What information about godfather does your role PM give you?
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
What chat were you supposed to put this in?
I was supposed to put it in the chat that I put it in.
My brother or sister in Christ, I'm not a kind enough person to explain this to you. I will let someone nicer than me have this discussion with you.
4 mafia, possible third parties, 13 or less town
That’s an oddly specific guess.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Vote Count
Mestari 6/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5, Mestari, Kohai, wylted, Thoth
Mag1cman 2/9 - Casey_Risk, Rex
Kohai 1/9 - Mag1cman
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
I admit I may be a bit tipsy from my four cups of wine but bro your reaction isn't giving you any town points
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Damn, I’m through 4 pages and this is still expanding. Was hoping to get through it all before I posted something, but I’ll have to come back in a bit, so here we are for now.
I’m mainly just checking in at this point, providing a few minor thoughts while I’m at it.
I can at least understand Mestari’s thinking, even if I’m more in line with Luna’s, about claiming that you are the Guild Leader. I can see the value in having a town confirmed (yes, they are alignment confirmed at this point so long as no one CC’s them) player or two is valuable to some extent. I can see the value in trying to garner behavioral info from ppl who hop on their wagons, but given how large this game is and that those would have to develop this DP and not just be the usual cluster fuck DP1 lynch wagon, I’m hesitant to put a lot of value on it.
Regarding the VTNL, that may be something we discuss later in the DP, but it’s pointless to argue for it now. The goal is to get information. Assuming a VTNL doesn’t do that, so while the numbers may balance, it’s not reason enough to be talking about it now.
Also, slight town lean on Kohai. Given I’ve been scum 3 games in a row before I took a breather and he’s the only one to VTL me, dude comes off authentic if nothing else.
The mod disclosed that there are 4 mafia
That’s an oddly specific guess.
it's in the start of day post
Objective
The primary goal is to eliminate the mafia.
There are 4 mafia
There may be third-party roles with their own win conditions
I still don’t know what to type!
This is true. I do tend to take things hyper literally
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
You are new! That's cute. We have a pup to raise!
Good luck, we've all been kicking him for years
I admit I may be a bit tipsy from my four cups of wine but bro your reaction isn't giving you any town points
He made a joke and you're overanalyzing it. Go sleep off the wine
I still don’t know what to type!
I admit I may be a bit tipsy from my four cups of wine but bro your reaction isn't giving you any town points
How do I say this kindly... At no point will I ever give a fuck about earning town points. My reaction is about not being a complete jerk to someone I don't know.
On a side note, what's the wine???
I'd like to suggest that we DISCUSS softing whether we are a show character or ourselves. Not that we do it, but that we discuss whether or not we should do it.
Why?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Bartenura Moscato (Blue Bottle). Really good and perfect for a seder. I'm not the biggest wine drinker but this is my favorite wine https://www.bartenurawines.com/bartenura-moscato-15435.html
Unvote
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Please no softs they make me sad
He made a joke and you're overanalyzing it. Go sleep off the wine
To further expand, I famously open claimed godfather once as godfather in a game with a lie detector and got the lie detector lynched when they got a "True" result on my statement that I was the godfather. It was a throwback reference.
Do you think mafia would be risky enough to suggest a VTNL tho? No matter what, it attracts attention to the person suggesting it.
Sounds like you are town reading mestari. Why did you say you’d be willing to vote him earlier?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
hey you technically hammered there miss
laughed so hard when I found out he was a Lie Detector too
Vote Count
Mestari 5/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5, Mestari, wylted, Thoth
Mag1cman 2/9 - Casey_Risk, Rex
Kohai 1/9 - Mag1cman
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
I know that shit was fucking hilarious.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein