Solo Leveling Mafia - DP1

So yeah I'll just hard claim my character is kohai. I won't claim roles yet but at least we can get that started 

Well this aged well lmaooo

Fine. I'll just full claim since I already claimed character. 

Character - Kohai

Role - Currnelty VT become ascetic upon being recruited 

Justification - as a moderator nothing gets past me 

So why aren’t you Bulletproof Ascetic

Happy with lynching Kohai here

CreamPie

Doesnt really matter to me cause it’s WIFOM. Base case objectively it’s scummy, or you’re just dumb, which is a possibility I’m starting to warm up to.

To be clear, you are rejecting confirmable player specific behavioral tendencies to instead overlay a generalistic scum behavior framework? And you're backing off that push, not with behavioral analysis but with a non-committal ad-hominem. And you're doing this as the wagon shows itself to be dead. And you're moving into the next easiest wagon?

So you have no actual stance yet that actually relates to trying to read a player as a player. You're using non-specific principles to pressure people at this point in the DP?

VTL creamPie

I'm tired of lynching Kohai!

My Kohai lynching muscles are exhausted!

His writing style would indicate he is legitimately drunk right now though so I would be cautious about attributing too much to analyzing his style at the very least but his thoughts should be harder to veil in that state

I'm not about to make a game relevant comment, but how does one get "legitimately drunk" off Moscato?

Kohai's justification is that abilities pass over him

I'd like to suggest that we DISCUSS softing whether we are a show character or ourselves. Not that we do it, but that we discuss whether or not we should do it.

Solo Leveling isn't exactly a series known for having a lot of main characters, so no, I don't like this idea at all. Softing this game seems especially pointless given how many people are likely to just say their characters are themselves.

So why aren’t you Bulletproof Ascetic

because that's wayyyy too OP'd? Also that's a quick summary of it not a direct copy and paste

Pie's tactic, whether town or scum, is to go for weak points -- it's a bulldozer approach where the point is not necessarily to uncover scum but to narrow his POE. Or to give the appearance of narrowing his POE, obviously.

I'm not about to make a game relevant comment, but how does one get "legitimately drunk" off Moscato?

Speaking of game-irrelevant comments, I have superhumanly high alcohol tolerance. I gave up drinking for fear of turning my liver into a deather after downing eight ounces of 151-proof Everclear and feeling nothing.

Solo Leveling isn't exactly a series known for having a lot of main characters, so no, I don't like this idea at all. Softing this game seems especially pointless given how many people are likely to just say their characters are themselves.

That's about all I needed to hear to drop that topic, then.

Lol and you got me about how softing that you're not in the show just means you are yourself. didn't think of that

To be clear, you are rejecting confirmable player specific behavioral tendencies to instead overlay a generalistic scum behavior framework?

Yes, because those “tendencies” aren’t confirmable by anyways. They’re WIFOM.

And you're backing off that push, not with behavioral analysis but with a non-committal ad-hominem.

I got the information I needed to move on and better inform my read of you

And you're doing this as the wagon shows itself to be dead. And you're moving into the next easiest wagon?

I support the mod confirmed townie in his assessment yes, and for other reasons, namely Kohai as town is a liability anyways

So you have no actual stance yet that actually relates to trying to read a player as a player. You're using non-specific principles to pressure people at this point in the DP?

VTL creamPie

Im using common sense vs tongue twisters

Vote Count

Mestari 2/9 - Alyssa, Thoth

Mag1cman 2/9 - Casey_Risk, Rex

Kohai 3/9 - Mag1cman, ILikePie5, wylted

ILikePie5 1/9 - Mestari

Vote Count

Kohai 3/9 - Mag1cman, ILikePie5, wylted

Mestari 2/9 - Alyssa, Thoth

Mag1cman 2/9 - Casey_Risk, Rex

Pie 1/9 - Mestari

because that's wayyyy too OP'd? Also that's a quick summary of it not a direct copy and paste 

Wym a quick summary vs direct copy paste

Character - Kohai

Role - Currnelty VT become ascetic upon being recruited

Justification - as a moderator nothing gets past me

Really don't get just straight up claiming this under limited pressure (I see 3 votes leading up to this), but here we are. I would give you some towncred for claiming this early, but given the info in the OP, everyone knew that peoples' characters could just be themselves.

Really don't get just straight up claiming this under limited pressure (I see 3 votes leading up to this), but here we are. I would give you some towncred for claiming this early, but given the info in the OP, everyone knew that peoples' characters could just be themselves.

Cut him some slack, he has quick-lynch PTSD lol

Pie's tactic, whether town or scum, is to go for weak points -- it's a bulldozer approach where the point is not necessarily to uncover scum but to narrow his POE. Or to give the appearance of narrowing his POE, obviously. 

POE is always king.

I drink Mexican Mudslides occasionally, but not for the alcohol content, just because it's spicy chocolate milk and my favorite milk has always come from brown cows.

Yeah, I'm going to stick on Pie for now. He's pivoting between targets he sees as easy, not making reads directly tied to player behavior, shifting the burden of accuracy from himself to a confirmed townie to dissolve himself off accountability. It's giving either scum, or if he's town it's giving FT vibes. What I mean by that is refusing to ever accept being wrong and positioning himself to claim he wasn't wrong if it was clear he was. So if you tell me it's FT in a trench coat I'd buy he's town, but I'm happy with where my vote is for the evening.

Why did Mikal need to specify that dead players don't count toward faction totals

Are there roles that have utility after death and might blur the line enough to require that clarification?

For further clarification, there's a valid reason to use generic frameworks to read players you don't know. But then rejecting the opportunity to later actually analyze the player as they play in favor of continuing to use generic frameworks, that doesn't appear to me as legitimate scumhunting.

Cut him some slack, he has quick-lynch PTSD lol

You know... you have a point.

Wryly

Why did Mikal need to specify that dead players don't count toward faction totals

Are there roles that have utility after death and might blur the line enough to require that clarification?

Because the town is going to cannibalize itself trying to have more players in their guild.

Why did Mikal need to specify that dead players don't count toward faction totals

Are there roles that have utility after death and might blur the line enough to require that clarification?

I was just thinking about that. I think we'd have to assume that there's a Restless Spirit/Tree Stump or the like among the roles in this game based on that line from Mikal.

Claims List

Wylted - Choi Jong-In - Leader of the Hunters

Alysa - ?? - ??

WF ?? - ??

Helz ?? - ??

Luna - Baek Yoonho - Leader of the white tiger guild

Banana ?? - ??

Kohai - Kohai - VT / Ascetic upon being recruited

Pie ?? - ??

Mharm ?? - ??

Wyrly ?? - ??

Skep ?? - ??

Thoth - ?? probably himself based on his not so soft --

Supa ?? - ??

Max ?? - ??

Casey Risk ?? - ??

Mestari ?? - ??

Shining ?? - ??

If I correctly understand how guild recruitment works, this could give an interesting game-theoretic solution: If both guilds don't recruit anyone from now on, they will have the same number of members and should all win together. I will ask Mikal whether or not a tie in members lets the guild leader win.