Solo Leveling - Day phase 3

Say your justification again?

I do not think I am mod confirmed at all.

Ironically my entire reasoning for town reading Mestari is mod meta which I unpacked D1. Hate that the game started with OOG nonsense drug into it but that seems to be normal here.

But yes, I asked to leave and got effectively told I could leave chat. I voiced that I now see my guild leader (Wryly) as potentially scum and would like to separate if possible but all I could do is leave chat. Which is pointless. Even as we disagree and fight about the mafia stuff we have been super respectful to etchother and there is no advantage to me having less information.

But yeah. Lol. I did just try to leave the guild over Wryly revealing my protective function to the town then voting me. That just screams scum to me.

Orrr. just get Shining. The blatantly outed scum that nobody even disagrees with

My justification is as a moderator I have endured countless complaints, reports, criticisms, and pressure. I have heard and seen everything and nothing affects me. Even when you call me a retard

Agree. Shinning is outted

Helz, if not for the pregame joke that you are so attached to, what would your read on me be?

How about me compromise. You reveal everything and we switch to Shining

Pretty neutral. While I have seen things that pinged me I have also seen you do things I town read. You seem a bit too quick to go with the flow and I do not see much application of what I view your range is as a player. I think you can do more and you are holding back or just not trying that much and I have to ask why. Then positionally I question some of your movement.

I hold you as very likely town just because if you were scum and did the GF slip in open chat after roles went out any host would have re-rolled the game if you were Mafia. Thats pretty much why I had you next to the two claimed confirmed towns D1.

There’s not a single world where mestari is a wolf.

Well, I ask daddy for items as an action.

One of the items is goggles that gives me a tracking ability and confirms to me if the players intended action succeeded or not.

The other item is some form of protective function that's detrimental to the town for me to clarify.

N1 I was role blocked as my guild recruited

N2 I asked daddy for some goggles so I could hunt.

Thats my full claim.

restste the justification for your character?

You guys also have all your meta reasoning and such. I do not.

I duno. Some rich kid that ended up doing some guild stuff the one time I googled it? I think Google mentioned my father is wealthy or something. All my actions come from me asking daddy for items.

Fair. Part of our meta is that every game has a theme, every character has a role, and every character has a justification for why they have that role.

Many sites like MU on theme game like this would ban flavor claiming. As much as I hate flavor claiming it is part of our meta. It adds a demotion of play to scum as they need to think of fake claims. It also makes creating games more difficult because you don’t want to create a game that can be solved on d1 via mass claim.

Oh. Apparently my character was also a coward. I remember that bit. Made me giggle.

I’m calling BS. I’m sorry I’m not buying what you’re selling

Yeah, I dislike when flavor relates to AI stuff. Puts advantage to people that know the source material in a rather unfair way.

But keep in mind I openly claimed my character D1 with zero pressure. I know I am town and just did not give a fuck. I also wanted to end the discussion of flavor. I do not want to have to watch an entire anime to play a mafia game.

Feel free to kill me. I have said it over and over and over.

Yeah, I dislike when flavor relates to AI stuff. Puts advantage to people that know the source material in a rather unfair way.

Fair. And as I said I really dislike flavor claiming as well, but unfortunately it is part of our meta and I doubt it’ll change any time soon.

So something of my principles for playing mafia.

Each player has a duty to try to read and figure out other players.

Also each player has a duty to try to allow others to read them.

In this situation I am bending over backwards answering every question asked of me and just not revealing a tiny piece of my role which everyone can see would cause harm to town play to be known yet thats what I am being killed for as people ignore the rest and do not bother to vet me with reasoning.

Have at it. This is your sites meta? Do it then. Hammer. But on the flip feel stupid.

I may add Thoth and Alyssa were caught well before they claimed. Their claim only tightened the noose around their necks.

Each player has a duty to try to read and figure out other players.

Also each player has a duty to try to allow others to read them.

Again that’s what we’ve been doing. That’s how Thoth and Alyssa were caught and how shinning was caught.

Every game I have always played the correct move before a lynch is to ask for a full claim

So something of my principles for playing mafia.

Each player has a duty to try to read and figure out other players.

Also each player has a duty to try to allow others to read them.

In this situation I am bending over backwards answering every question asked of me and just not revealing a tiny piece of my role which everyone can see would cause harm to town play to be known yet thats what I am being killed for as people ignore the rest and do not bother to vet me with reasoning.

I feel like you have trouble understanding . Everyone has already stated they have behavioral reasons for scum reading you. We are willing to give you a chance to prove us wrong by full claiming (we afford that chance to everyone). Your rebuttals don’t exonerate you at all. They are insufficient as everyone has stated multiple times.

Acting like you’re only being lynched because you refuse to claim is factually incorrect. Everyone has given you significant opportunities to respond to them, and we have also shown a willingness to move onto Shining. You’re holding town up. There are guaranteed townies on your wagon who scumread you and are asking you for mechanical information to make them feel better about you. You refusing that makes us feel like you’re hiding something. At this point, scum already know you have some protective role, so there is ZERO harm in revealing it.

Have at it. This is your sites meta? Do it then. Hammer. But on the flip feel stupid.

Sure, we’re all willing to admit when we’re wrong. But if you’re a townie, you’re not doing everything to make other townies feel better. Is it worse to reveal the information you have or get lynched as town. The answer is simple.

I think you can do more and you are holding back or just not trying that much and I have to ask why.

Fair observation. As this game started I moved to somewhere I've never been and where I don't know anyone. I've been figuring things out IRL over the course of this game. That and the level of play hasn't excited me. Awesome, Shining, and Casey have been practically MIA for most of the game.

Well let me ask you this, What does it change to prove my alignment for me to claim how my protective function works? Its a protective function. Obviously there is advantage to that staying hidden.

And past that bullshit what even is the case against me? As I have repeatedly said Rex or Wryly can verify looking through chat that over and over I was actively working to keep myself as a mid read for town. Nothing I have said or done I will have any trouble explaining and I have town motivation for everything I have done. If the town does not want to vet me and instead kill me because the meta is "Reveal absolutely every bit of your role" this site is again like the monkeys with the button doing things without having reasoning why.

So kill me. Or kill the extremely likely scum Shining. Either way I am good with.

Let’s end this please. I would like DP up tonight

cant we lynch shining? i dont feel good about helz

Well let me ask you this, What does it change to prove my alignment for me to claim how my protective function works? Its a protective function. Obviously there is advantage to that staying hidden.

1. Hold up are you a protective or investigative role? I’m confused as this blatantly contradicts your tracker claim

2. There’s an advantage to stay hidden but not if you can clear yourself right before being lynched and costing town a valuable PR.

Side rant: I’ve seen so many town PRs in open setups that got lynched because they didn’t claim and many times town went on to lose

cant we lynch shining? i dont feel good about helz

I’ll go on record saying I much prefer shinning as well.

Well let me ask you this, What does it change to prove my alignment for me to claim how my protective function works? Its a protective function. Obviously there is advantage to that staying hidden.

I’ll answer this for you:

1) We already have a protective role claimed

2) It’s possible for other protective roles to exist (has in fact happened multiple times)

3) It possible for you to be CCed and if that doesn’t happen we feel better about you

4) I’m the most important person alive, so your ability has a direct impact on me being alive

5) The fact you didnt ask for the protection ability to use instead of tracker is an interesting decision

And past that bullshit what even is the case against me? As I have repeatedly said Rex or Wryly can verify looking through chat that over and over I was actively working to keep myself as a mid read for town. Nothing I have said or done I will have any trouble explaining and I have town motivation for everything I have done. If the town does not want to vet me and instead kill me because the meta is "Reveal absolutely every bit of your role" this site is again like the monkeys with the button doing things without having reasoning why. 

So kill me. Or kill the extremely likely scum Shining. Either way I am good with.

Helz.

with all due respect I’m not buying your claim nor am I buying your ATE