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ISO #1231 •••

I won't unpack the conversation but yeah. Me and Luna were cutting it up cracking jokes about the situation at the time. But yes I did catch that post.

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ISO #1232 •••
--> @Helz
I actually quoted you there on 4/2/2026 at 11:31PM
My exact words-
"Fucking finally someone suspects me
Lol
Jesus fucking christ its hard to bait a scum read on this server"

and that’s not a real response, which was my point about you not addressing behavioral arguments


“ErM bUt TeCHnICaLlY tHaT iS a rESpoNsE”


and technically, it doesn’t attempt to refute any of my points, it’s just brushed them aside.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1233 •••
--> @Mag1cman

Ok man. Unpack why you think I am scum and what you would like me to explain. We are talking past etchother and I am very willing to openly discuss what I was up to in any situation this game.

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ISO #1234 •••

But lets get away from the vague nonsense please. Clearly voice what you are arguing and I will give you an equally clear response.

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ISO #1235 •••
--> @Helz

I just copy pasted it. There’s also the mechs of this, and that I trust Wryly in particular off behavior.


that’s the case.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1236 •••
--> @Helz

I have made myself very clear.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1237 •••

To be clear what I did give you in that post is an exact quote of me talking about that exact post in the guild chat- which again 2 living people here can verify reflecting it was absolutely intentional on my part.

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ISO #1238 •••
--> @Mag1cman
I have made myself very clear.


I do not feel you have.


Did I very intentionally bait for scum reads and specifically 3p? Yes. Absolutely. And that can be verified in my guild chat by other people if you do not want to take my word for it.


I do not understand your point. If you do not think it was intentional and that I am lying ask Wryly or Rex and they can do a simple Ctrl+F in the discord and verify. If you are questioning why I would do such a thing just ask and I can explain.


But make a clear point. Because I am really not seeing one. I just keep hearing about vague behavioral pattern issues that I am not even seeing points on that I can address.

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ISO #1239 •••
--> @Helz
Did I very intentionally bait for scum reads and specifically 3p? Yes. Absolutely. And that can be verified in my guild chat by other people if you do not want to take my word for it.

“Hey guys I’m gonna act scummy for funsies, don’t think I’m scum for it though, ok?”


I do not understand your point. If you do not think it was intentional and that I am lying ask Wryly or Rex and they can do a simple Ctrl+F in the discord and verify. If you are questioning why I would do such a thing just ask and I can explain.

Wryly gave her side of the story, and it contradicts what you said.


But make a clear point. Because I am really not seeing one. I just keep hearing about vague behavioral pattern issues that I am not even seeing points on that I can address. 

No, you are pretending not to understand arguments, to drag things out and to try and fool inattentive lurkers into thinking there’s no real raft against you.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1240 •••

Honestly thats my whole issue with this entire situation. The push on me is so vague and I am not even seeing a real case as I constantly say "Ask me anything"


Yet the only thing people want is what. The exact flavor of protective I have? Which has very fucking obvious reasons to be hidden.


Honestly same issue I saw with Alyssa. While I hard shoved them in my guild chat and pushed them in day chat D1 I saw an awful case with minimal reasoning I could use post flip.

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ISO #1241 •••

As a bonus. In that massive text wall (THE massive text wall from earlier), you said there’s an additional benefit to acting scummy like that because you catch opportunistic mafia. As I pointed out in my response to that, the inverse of that strategy is to act a little scummy as scum, and then try to paint townies who pounce as scum (again, Magoroth, another SC2 player, uses this strategy). And that’s what I think you were really doing. So there’s another behavioral argument.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1242 •••
--> @Mag1cman
“Hey guys I’m gonna act scummy for funsies, don’t think I’m scum for it though, ok?”

No, I wanted to be scum read. Just did not expect my guild to betray me like they did. Rex is hiding in the corner silently while Wryly is pouring gas on the fire to the point I now think they are scum so much I flatly asked the mod if I could get out of the guild.


Wryly gave her side of the story, and it contradicts what you said.

They did not. They said something like 30 minutes prior a discussion on actions was had and they posted 'pie conf'. They did. Things were said during that time and their response was not even a reply to Lunatic saying to check pie. Its possible someone coulda picked up on that but kinda bullshit to act like they hard projected their action imo. They can confirm that as well. Just ask them. Really... Ask them.


No, you are pretending not to understand arguments, to drag things out and to try and fool inattentive lurkers into thinking there’s no real raft against you.

Please just make a point. Or just understand that I do not get your point. I am asking for you to clearly articulate what you are asking from me. What do you want to understand about my behavior and motives? I am not seeing a clear argument.


Remember that very early thing when I had to tell everyone that I am very autistic and struggle with communication? If your not acting in bad faith here just consider for a moment that I may truly not understand what you are getting at and I am genuinely asking you to clearly explain.


You keep saying I am ignoring things and not giving you what you want but I do not understand what you want. I just keep hearing vague references to "Well I already said it" which obviously has not connected in a way that I understand.

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ISO #1243 •••
--> @Helz
No, I wanted to be scum read. Just did not expect my guild to betray me like they did. Rex is hiding in the corner silently while Wryly is pouring gas on the fire to the point I now think they are scum so much I flatly asked the mod if I could get out of the guild.

I don’t believe you.


They did not. They said something like 30 minutes prior a discussion on actions was had and they posted 'pie conf'. They did. Things were said during that time and their response was not even a reply to Lunatic saying to check pie. Its possible someone coulda picked up on that but kinda bullshit to act like they hard projected their action imo. They can confirm that as well. Just ask them. Really... Ask them.

I did ask Wryly and she gave me a report different from yours. I believe in her more than I do you.


Please just make a point. Or just understand that I do not get your point. I am asking for you to clearly articulate what you are asking from me. What do you want to understand about my behavior and motives? I am not seeing a clear argument.

I can’t make it any more clear for you.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1244 •••

Yall imma be honest I’ve just been arguing with Helz out of pride but I am done. This conversation is fully exhausted.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1245 •••
--> @Banana, @ILikePie5, @Shining, @whiteflame, @Wryly

Please just hammer already.


No Banana, we are not going for a Shining lynch today. Helz is simply scummier.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1246 •••
--> @Mag1cman
I can’t make it any more clear for you.

Honestly- I think you can not make it any more clear for me because you can not really articulate real reasoning to your push. Your working around vague claims and do not want to get into specifics.


For example- Just now you jumped to another vague claim

I did ask Wryly and she gave me a report different from yours. I believe in her more than I do you.

What they said in their response was that they said Pie Confirmed and 30 minutes earlier Lunatic asked them to target Pie.


This lines up exactly with what I said but in your vague narrative not being specific you can spin it. Which whatever. You are probably just so tunneled on me at this point your kinda committed and accepting you may be wrong would be offensive to you.


But yeah, You have been about as clear as mud referencing vague nonsense the entire time. Even when I directly ask you "What do you want to know referencing a post where you voiced I could be 3p D1 you just evade and stay vague. I gave you the exact quote I said in guild chat about your comment and voiced you could verify with a guild member who can see the comment. Your response is simply that you do not believe me.


If you want common ground we can have that but really, You are not exactly making a point I can even address. Just throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks.

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ISO #1247 •••
--> @Helz

I’ve articulated it clearly multiple times. I’m done with you.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1248 •••

If you can’t understand my posts, it is just your skill issue. Maybe not your fault, but it doesn’t make a difference to me as far as how much more time I want to spend on it goes.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1249 •••
--> @Mag1cman
If you can’t understand my posts, it is just your skill issue. Maybe not your fault, but it doesn’t make a difference to me as far as how much more time I want to spend on it goes.

We can agree that its a skill issue. We may disagree on who has that issue.


If you can not clearly voice your logic you do not have any imo.

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ISO #1250 •••

Vote Count


Helz (5/7) Mestari, Rex, Mag1c, Kohai, Pie

Shining (3/7) Helz, Vader, Banana

Awesome (1/7) Shining

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1251 •••

VTL helz

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ISO #1252 •••

Why do you keep telling me to hammer when Helz was at L-2

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ISO #1253 •••
--> @Helz

I have clearly voiced it. If you cannot understand it, I have no reason to spend any more time on you.


Goodbye.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1254 •••
--> @Helz
Feel free to leave out how much was said between those time periods and that we were mid conversation on some random bullshit.


Ok? I mean I don't know what your point is here. Are you trying to argue that we don't have a guild leak because you guys chatted in between Lunatic telling me to target Pie and me saying "confirm"?

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ISO #1255 •••
--> @Mag1cman

Best I can say is that I did enjoy playing with you. If you are scum well played. Sorry if anything felt personal but yeah, your just absolutely wrong on this one and expect me to bring it up in the future : )

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ISO #1256 •••
--> @Shining

I pinged multiple people, was asking the collective to cast two more votes, which is hammer


I am so frustrated with people who lack basic reading comprehension this DP. At least Helz has an excuse.

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1257 •••

Vote Count


Helz (6/7) Mestari, Rex, Mag1c, Kohai, Pie, Shining

Shining (3/7) Helz, Vader, Banana

Awesome (1/7) Shining

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I still don’t know what to type!

ISO #1258 •••
--> @Banana
i think he has some odd ideas about meta but it seems genuine and id really rather not lynch someone because they are disagreeable. n lets be honest thats what it seems like


This is kind of throwing me. So you just think he's being stubborn and my false result on Pie is unrelated to me announcing who I would target in guildchat?

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ISO #1259 •••
--> @Wryly
Ok? I mean I don't know what your point is here. Are you trying to argue that we don't have a guild leak because you guys chatted in between Lunatic telling me to target Pie and me saying "confirm"?


Oh no. I am pointing out that what I said before was that you randomly said Pie Conf in the middle of a discussion. You are verifying that half an hour earlier Lunatic asked you a question and I did check and verify that you saying that was not even a reply to that statement. It was just a random "Pie conf" in the middle of a totally separate discussion.


Without that context it sounds a bit different. Mag1c now thinks my account and yours is different but ehh, they are being rather unreasonable not bothering to verify or consider facts imo. I said what I said to you specifically to point out that your borderline painting me with such a statement.

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ISO #1260 •••

I've been talking about this so long I'm just losing the thread here. All his "you'll see when I flip, I'll laugh so hard" shit is making me second-guess myself. And I townread Banana so her opinion is definitely not nothing to me here.

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