Solo Leveling DP 5

I never once used the TMI argument against you as far as I remember.

i didnt say u did, but other people have. basically im okay with being scumread for being open minded especially if the end result was me joining the right wagon.

Im pointing out that it’s odd that you defended both scum, however lightly and provided them with an out. But when it came to Shining, zilch.

i had behavioral reasons to scum read both of the lynches though, and they werent the copy pasted ones every one else was repeating the entire time about the "scum slip thoth made" or the "scum slip alyssa made", i thought thoth was scummy because he deflected so much in claiming all night after being repetdly asked for a claim, then when he does get on he says hes been up all night and needs to sleep but still somehow didnt want to claim until late that day phase. then when he eventually did claim he was an unrecruitable back up doctor? like all that stalling and deflecting just to give up was the major thing scummy to me. i didnt really care about the other arguments as much around the supposed slip, and was willing to buy it could have been a brain fart yes. just because i accepted some of his nonsense, didnt mean i accepted all of it. and i was never town reading him at any point so i dont know why that would be used to scum read me. and alyssa i thought the nail in the coffin was her complete lack of defending herself and just straight giving up.

Yes, but it’s different. You didn’t vote Helz, I’m pretty sure. And you were solid on him being town at the end of the DP.

i did vote for him actually and i even argued with him back and forth one night all night trying to get him to understand why he was being scum read, and when he wasn't getting it or understanding it i even pinged you whiteflame and mharman to come try bother explaining it to him remember? if you want me to go dig up the posts i can but i am responding to like 20 people so id rather if you just looked it up yourself. i was town reading him at the end of the day phase after his continued back and forth with everyone and how passionate he was in his defense of himself. i also kind of agreed with some of the points he was making about why we were demanding specifically what his role is as if it would have actually made any kind of difference. u were lynch mobbing him because he wasn't complying with u, it felt more policy than behavior related.

If you voted him and scumread him at the end while also saying for the record, I townread him, I would agree that the situation is same. I don’t think that’s the case tho

i think you should re read my interactions with helz for a better understanding of where i was with him and why i ultimately switched on him being scum to town

ou keep shifting the subject back to you and I don't know why. Part of your reason for dismissing the results of Wryly's investigation as meaningful was to say that she got an incorrect result two times in a row. As I've pointed out, that's just not true. And no, I'm not trying to implicate you with these results. I'm focused on whether this gives significant support to REF and Awesome's claims. Been focused on POE since I started responding to you.

i wasnt actually caught on some result or anything tho. from what i understand the reason im being focused is because of "poe" that results from eliminating ref/awesome from the poe, so all im saying is to let my town flip reverse that decision to confirm them and get you to think about this outside the box is all.

I feel like you've been more defensive in response to me than is warranted given I haven't been responding with reasons to sus you.

i keep trying to emphasize that i know im the lynch and am okay with the lynch. i dont see how that is defensive at all. i just want there to be something useful to come out of my mislynch, and i dont see how continued discussion about results will accomplish that. the whole point of my spheal here is to learn literly anything from this lynch so you can find scum and town can win in the end. if my lynch enables town to focus down and hunt the other two scum im happy. if my lynch doesn't accomplish anything, and i somehow get blamed for not doing enough to disprove results, i will be a little angry. just dont spin the mislynch back on me, and use it to get other scum. thats all i am asking. not being defensive. not even defending myself really. i am okay being lynched.

i wasnt actually caught on some result or anything tho. from what i understand the reason im being focused is because of "poe" that results from eliminating ref/awesome from the poe, so all im saying is to let my town flip reverse that decision to confirm them and get you to think about this outside the box is all.

Alright, that's something at least.

i keep trying to emphasize that i know im the lynch and am okay with the lynch. i dont see how that is defensive at all. i just want there to be something useful to come out of my mislynch, and i dont see how continued discussion about results will accomplish that. the whole point of my spheal here is to learn literly anything from this lynch so you can find scum and town can win in the end. if my lynch enables town to focus down and hunt the other two scum im happy. if my lynch doesn't accomplish anything, and i somehow get blamed for not doing enough to disprove results, i will be a little angry. just dont spin the mislynch back on me, and use it to get other scum. thats all i am asking. not being defensive. not even defending myself really. i am okay being lynched.

Alright then. I'll pick this back up tomorrow and make a call one way or the other.

Would like more discussion from yall

If Banana flips town I may go full ostrich. Two mislynches under the influence of my results is more than I can cope with. I'm genuinely stumped as to how my Rex result doesn't virtually clear Rex and awesome though.

okay yeah kill kohai after banana

there is no way he is seriously voting me instead of occam razor'ing banana being jailkept from killing twice

i joined the guild because i thought it was against the spirit of the game to decline an invitation, sue me

there is no way he is seriously voting me instead of occam razor'ing banana being jailkept from killing twice

twice? it didnt even happen once let alone twice lol

there was only one missing kill. what are you on

Have we confirmed if a player would be told if they were redirected at night?

Would like more discussion from yall

Me too. DP went up during a 15 hour shift and I'm about to go into another one. Best your gonna get is my bus ride you work, about an hour in the middle of the day, and tomorrow morning.

DP3 went up at 6:49pm. The challenge from the ant king didn't come until 7:14pm. This leads me to conclude that the Ant King had some autonomy over when the challenge was issued.

That is to say, the Ant King is among players who were either active or at least available to present the challenge around when the DP went up

I would love to dig into some behavioral reads, but on 5 hours of sleep I'm just staring at words on a page. I'd like to finish rereading the game tomorrow morning if the DP isn't rushed to a finish before then.

Why were you willing to lynch a claimed cop in DP3?

Why were you willing to lynch a claimed cop in DP3?

what are you talking about? lol

what are you talking about? lol

You voted for REF, who was the claimed Cop at that time in DP3

DP3 #566 for reference

do u not remember? at this point in time we were working under the theory that someone in their guild was scum who had known who the cop was going to target and set them up to frame them. this was ur argument, and me and several others agreed with the logic. this is the same thing i was trying to hammer into helz brain later when he wasnt understanding why someone in their guild was likely behind the messed up result. this was not some big mystery pie. rex wasnt being forthcoming with info that we believed at the time would reveal a mafia member, so the vote was to help get him to understand the urgency. you voted before me here btw litrly two posts before i made my vote.

do u not remember? at this point in time we were working under the theory that someone in their guild was scum who had known who the cop was going to target and set them up to frame them. this was ur argument, and me and several others agreed with the logic. this is the same thing i was trying to hammer into helz brain later when he wasnt understanding why someone in their guild was likely behind the messed up result. this was not some big mystery pie. rex wasnt being forthcoming with info that we believed at the time would reveal a mafia member, so the vote was to help get him to understand the urgency. you voted before me here btw litrly two posts before i made my vote.

I know why I was voting him lol. I was asking why you were, and based on your answer it looks like you were just joining the consensus because everyone else did

I know why I was voting him lol. I was asking why you were, and based on your answer it looks like you were just joining the consensus because everyone else did

i mean i agreed with the logic it seemed like we had caught scum. if i was just mindlessly bandwagoning i wouldnt have argued with helz later explaining said logic

1. Does a roleblock always present as "your action failed"
2. What other roles can result in a "your action failed" message

1. Does a roleblock always present as "your action failed"

I would presume yes

1. What other roles can result in a "your action failed" message

Probably Ascetic or like BP Ascetic

Can someone compile a list of all the dead townies and their final reads

Probably Ascetic or like BP Ascetic

Who did Mag1c target? Is there a possibility he struck an Ascetic scum or a scum with a Commuter?

Who did Mag1c target? Is there a possibility he struck an Ascetic scum or a scum with a Commuter?

I’ll let him reveal that. It’s possible, but unlikely imo

Was his role revealed in your groupchat? How about his target?

Was his role revealed in your groupchat? How about his target?

Both were, yes. But the only person who could’ve influenced it would be WF, and I don’t believe he’s scum

Where tf is everyone

Where tf is everyone

I was changing an old lady's stage four pressure ulcer.

But I'm done now and ready to let this game distract me from the relentless march of entropy that even now is shortening our telomeres and draining the life from our cells.

Can you please tell me who you targeted. Whether Pie was redirected onto you or you just struck a scum who might be an Ascetic/Commuter is pivotal in my analysis of my result last NP.

He targeted Awesome

I really would like to hear from you buddy. See #292