Amber Mafia

A-Gerard wrote:

You’re literally following the strat I’m following lmaoo but okay. I specifically said that you can pick the third person. I also have posted my reads. I prefer Brands slot to claim and then lynch Brands or Martin for behavioral reasons. Also would be fine replacing Brands with Llewella

Except I want to lynch you for behavioral reasons and the behavioral reason you want to lynch martin for is... perceived passive aggressiveness? Really? But we are 3 hours away form EOD so if your letting me choose the third person, lets let it be you, because at this point I am ready to lynch you, or default an inactive if you are confirmed.

What behavioral reasons are you talking about? I’ve already explained why you cannot directly compare my behavior to previous game. You yourself said you can’t compare your own behavior to the previous game, so it’s ironic that you’re using that here.

As for the Vanilla tactic. There are people like Oberon who agree with me and there are crickets coming from you on that.

And yes, I can read Martin pretty well. I got her last game in DP1, and I’ve gotten her in other games as well early on. The fact she just claimed Vanilla with zero pressure (very low risk for scum to do that since I hadn’t even said my tactic at that point).

Read her reasoning. She said: why would I claim Vanilla if I knew that Flora was going to target it. She didn’t know I was going to do that because I revealed it AFTER.

And the passive aggressiveness doesn’t just extend to Llewella, it extends to me. I scumread Flora but won’t do anything about because there’s no support. Previous game, she was fine sussing me on the notion that Thoth/Alyssa would’ve claimed while I was inactive. It’s weak to begin with

I literally said in my first post that I’m assuming that there are 6 vanillas. If there are even less then that, then odds are even better than 33% lol. It’s literally math. And you also realize that if I claim Vanilla, I know that I’m 100% a vanilla and that makes it less likely that other people are. So from my POV if 3 other people claim Vanilla, 3/8 are likely to be scum aka 37.5%.

Are you claiming vanilla or is this all wifom?

I’ll full claim at L-2. But your read is asinine.

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A-Brand (4/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Flora (p#533), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Caine (p#290), A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#646), A-Martin (p#774)

A-Llewella (1/7): A-Brand (p#6)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

Not Voting (2): A-Deirdre (p#838), A-Fiona

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 6 hours.

A-Flora wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:

You’re literally following the strat I’m following lmaoo but okay. I specifically said that you can pick the third person. I also have posted my reads. I prefer Brands slot to claim and then lynch Brands or Martin for behavioral reasons. Also would be fine replacing Brands with Llewella

Except I want to lynch you for behavioral reasons and the behavioral reason you want to lynch martin for is... perceived passive aggressiveness? Really? But we are 3 hours away form EOD so if your letting me choose the third person, lets let it be you, because at this point I am ready to lynch you, or default an inactive if you are confirmed.

What behavioral reasons are you talking about? I’ve already explained why you cannot directly compare my behavior to previous game. You yourself said you can’t compare your own behavior to the previous game, so it’s ironic that you’re using that here.

As for the Vanilla tactic. There are people like Oberon who agree with me and there are crickets coming from you on that.

And yes, I can read Martin pretty well. I got her last game in DP1, and I’ve gotten her in other games as well early on. The fact she just claimed Vanilla with zero pressure (very low risk for scum to do that since I hadn’t even said my tactic at that point).

Read her reasoning. She said: why would I claim Vanilla if I knew that Flora was going to target it. She didn’t know I was going to do that because I revealed it AFTER.

And the passive aggressiveness doesn’t just extend to Llewella, it extends to me. I scumread Flora but won’t do anything about because there’s no support. Previous game, she was fine sussing me on the notion that Thoth/Alyssa would’ve claimed while I was inactive. It’s weak to begin with

I literally said in my first post that I’m assuming that there are 6 vanillas. If there are even less then that, then odds are even better than 33% lol. It’s literally math. And you also realize that if I claim Vanilla, I know that I’m 100% a vanilla and that makes it less likely that other people are. So from my POV if 3 other people claim Vanilla, 3/8 are likely to be scum aka 37.5%.

Are you claiming vanilla or is this all wifom?

I’ll full claim at L-2. But your read is asinine.

VTL: A-Flora

L2. Full claim time

You were already on me lol

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A-Brand (4/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Flora (p#533), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Caine (p#843), A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#646), A-Martin (p#774)

A-Llewella (1/7): A-Brand (p#6)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

Not Voting (2): A-Deirdre (p#838), A-Fiona

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 6 hours.

Why do you townread Martin?

Why do you townread Martin?

It's more of a light town read, but they definitely aren't a lynch priority. I liked their reads and answers to my questions though.

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A-Brand (4/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Flora (p#533), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)

A-Flora (4/7): A-Caine (p#843), A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#646), A-Martin (p#774)

A-Llewella (1/7): A-Brand (p#6)

A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

Not Voting (2): A-Deirdre (p#838), A-Fiona

With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 6 hours.

A-Gerard wrote:

Why do you townread Martin?

It's more of a light town read, but they definitely aren't a lynch priority. I liked their reads and answers to my questions though.

You liked it last game too lol. I was the only one who was like I didn’t like it. It’s clearly NAI.

Would your priority for a third claim still be Brand at this point?

What behavioral reasons are you talking about? I’ve already explained why you cannot directly compare my behavior to previous game. You yourself said you can’t compare your own behavior to the previous game, so it’s ironic that you’re using that here.

You are death tunneling a mech lynch and pretending like its some end all be all analysis, while not pursuing any behavior like at all. Your reads in 358 were extremely lack luster, and scum reads are extremely weak. I think you haven't spent your time this day phase optimally. Being town confirmed and different sure. Barely asking any questions though? That's not like town pie. And even when your questions were answered it never changed or effected your stance on people. Martin responded to your read on her, you said nothing. You questioned and doubled down on lynching her at every point. It's not a secret that you have the biggest ego on the site, and having the top ELO you can back it up a bit, but as scum I think we both know you think you are immune from early lynches, especially when people like Rex and Wylted constantly repeat how pursuing you in early day phases is a waste of time. And while I would love to interact with a town version with you here, I don't get the vibe that this is you. I am open to being wrong, and if your claim changes that read drastically then I will take that into account when dealing with you for the remainder of the game. I don't think a vanilla claim is going to change that for me though.

As for the Vanilla tactic. There are people like Oberon who agree with me and there are crickets coming from you on that.

I alone make up more than a 1/4 of the total posts in this game so far, I have responded to every single most you made. Yeah nothing but crickets over here lol

And yes, I can read Martin pretty well. I got her last game in DP1, and I’ve gotten her in other games as well early on. The fact she just claimed Vanilla with zero pressure (very low risk for scum to do that since I hadn’t even said my tactic at that point).

You got her last game on false jailkeep results, she said this in the endgame thread. You were right for the wrong reasons, and got lucky lol. And every game Martin has ever played in she claims early. Last game was the one exception, and look at that, she was scum.

I’ll full claim at L-2. But your read is asinine.

Day phase is fast coming to an end, so wait at your own peril.

Would your priority for a third claim still be Brand at this point?

We have no indication that Brand will even be online in the next 2 and a half hours when the day phase closes. If you buy flora is town that is fine, but since he is holding up the wagon on his claim, would you help put him at l-2? If he has a role other than vanilla, we can at least move on from this and use our remaining time to decide what we will do.

I think there is a small possibility of bleys and Gerald being scum. The opening introduction seems like theater.

We have no indication that Brand will even be online in the next 2 and a half hours when the day phase closes. If you buy flora is town that is fine, but since he is holding up the wagon on his claim, would you help put him at l-2? If he has a role other than vanilla, we can at least move on from this and use our remaining time to decide what we will do.

I'm considering it, just want to get Flora's answer first.

A-Random wrote:

I think there is a small possibility of bleys and Gerald being scum. The opening introduction seems like theater.

Lol okay well neither of us are likely to be lynched at the moment and we have two and a half hours left. Are you caught up?

A-Deirdre wrote:

Would your priority for a third claim still be Brand at this point?

Yes, and it’s annoying the bickering has moved us away from this goal, but at this stage we have to lynch and Martin is that person for me

Caine seems to focused on his retarded bot to be scum

Yes, and it’s annoying the bickering has moved us away from this goal, but at this stage we have to lynch and Martin is that person for me

Is the Brand read based on what he did before he was replaced or has anything moved the needle since?

Btw, I've asked Magoroth about this. I know we've talked about doing the crytography plus this secret key. From what he's told me, the key has to be guessable, so we can't just put this into an encryption site, generate a result, and generate a key. It would have to all be breakable by hand.

Looking back at Gerald. He's dead set on giving away who is who in this game. Not sure this is something scum would do because if someone hijacked your account and the writing style changes its an obvious dead giveaway that person is scum.

A-Deirdre wrote:

Btw, I've asked Magoroth about this. I know we've talked about doing the crytography plus this secret key. From what he's told me, the key has to be guessable, so we can't just put this into an encryption site, generate a result, and generate a key. It would have to all be breakable by hand.

I literally asked him if we could and he said yes, so we are getting conflicting info

A-Gerard wrote:

What behavioral reasons are you talking about? I’ve already explained why you cannot directly compare my behavior to previous game. You yourself said you can’t compare your own behavior to the previous game, so it’s ironic that you’re using that here.

You are death tunneling a mech lynch and pretending like its some end all be all analysis, while not pursuing any behavior like at all.

Thats just false - I had a sound plan in mind which a lot of people agreed to. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your claims. You yourself admitted that you’re playing differently this game compared to last game because you knew you were mod confirmed town. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your arguments and posted my reads. You have abolished any semblance of even pursuing anyone. If anyone has been death tunneling, it’s you. I’ve refuted your argument multiple times. Even Deidre sees where I’m coming from.

Your reads in 358 were extremely lack luster, and scum reads are extremely weak.

That’s your opinion lol.

I think you haven't spent your time this day phase optimally. Being town confirmed and different sure. Barely asking any questions though? That's not like town pie.

Have you even isoed me? I’ve asked questions of certain people. But I’ve spent most of time arguing back and forth with you because of your shitty death tunneling. I’ve been open all game to getting the third claim. You’re just like boo hoo, I’m voting Flora cause I behaviorally scum read them with no objective. You stated with a few hours left that you want my claim.

And even when your questions were answered it never changed or effected your stance on people. Martin responded to your read on her, you said nothing.

That’s just false lol, I responded to her and I explained to Brand replacement why she’s scum. The MO is the exact same. Poke at a few places, follow the same wagons, etc. She manufactured her “reads” last game and yall townread her for it lol

You questioned and doubled down on lynching her at every point. It's not a secret that you have the biggest ego on the site, and having the top ELO you can back it up a bit, but as scum I think we both know you think you are immune from early lynches, especially when people like Rex and Wylted constantly repeat how pursuing you in early day phases is a waste of time.

It’s cause im the only one willing to put the time in to defend myself. Everyone else doesn’t give a shit. I’m probably one of the only people who give a shit about playing this game in an optimal game to win, which is why I have one of the best ELOs. You and Llewella who you coincidentally scumread are the only people who think this play is not suboptimal

And while I would love to interact with a town version with you here, I don't get the vibe that this is you.

Your vibe is just wrong lol.

I am open to being wrong, and if your claim changes that read drastically then I will take that into account when dealing with you for the remainder of the game. I don't think a vanilla claim is going to change that for me though.

So how are you going to deal with it the remainder of the game if *checks notes* you want to lynch me.

As for the Vanilla tactic. There are people like Oberon who agree with me and there are crickets coming from you on that.

I alone make up more than a 1/4 of the total posts in this game so far, I have responded to every single most you made. Yeah nothing but crickets over here lol

Crickets on criticism of Oberon agreeing with me lmfao. You just seem to have a hard on when I do it, but not when Oberon stated he agrees 100% and Deidre is basically on board. At some point you have to realize you’re being retarded and people that are also good agree with someone who is also good. And the one person who doesn’t, you scumread lol

And yes, I can read Martin pretty well. I got her last game in DP1, and I’ve gotten her in other games as well early on. The fact she just claimed Vanilla with zero pressure (very low risk for scum to do that since I hadn’t even said my tactic at that point).

You got her last game on false jailkeep results, she said this in the endgame thread. You were right for the wrong reasons, and got lucky lol. And every game Martin has ever played in she claims early. Last game was the one exception, and look at that, she was scum.

Literally go read my response to when she posted her “reads” on DP1. I said there was something fishy. And literally why would I jailkeep her if I was not sus of her lol. Lucky my ass lmfao. You got fooled by her the entire game. Last game it wasn’t safe to claim Vanilla, this game it’s the safest, plus she claimed with zero pressure.

I’ll full claim at L-2. But your read is asinine.

Day phase is fast coming to an end, so wait at your own peril.

If town wants to lynch a person who has shown they’re willing to respond to people, where multiple people agree with him on the strategy, then they’re retarded lol.

A-Gerard wrote:

A-Deirdre wrote:

Btw, I've asked Magoroth about this. I know we've talked about doing the crytography plus this secret key. From what he's told me, the key has to be guessable, so we can't just put this into an encryption site, generate a result, and generate a key. It would have to all be breakable by hand.

I literally asked him if we could and he said yes, so we are getting conflicting info

Just saying what he told me, best to clarify.

Who do yall want to lynch and why. We’re running out of time. I’m willing to vote Brand, Martin, and Llewella. Gerard is being a moron and thinks he’s the scum king slayer, when he’s voting to the lynch the town king

Gotta stop in at work, I’ll be back online in a little bit. My inclination right now is towards getting what info we can, and that’s from Flora right now, even if he isn’t my preference.

A-Deirdre wrote:

Gotta stop in at work, I’ll be back online in a little bit. My inclination right now is towards getting what info we can, and that’s from Flora right now, even if he isn’t my preference.

I’ll take your word for it that you’ll put me at L-2. I’m Vanilla as well. So now let’s see Luna tangle with *checks notes* voting a Vanilla and following the exact same strategy I said.

Yeah im staying on brand. The more I look at that I dont buy it as a replacement for him being sick. Could be wrong but he was very annoyed he had another wagon on him for the mass claim portion and he was the target. Could be town frustration that he was the lynch target but every aspect of that bleeds frustrated scum to me.

VTL: A-Brand

Who all has claimed vanilla?

That is 3 vanillas. Def inclined to think one is scum

Maybe it'd brand martin