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Amber Mafia - DP3

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ISO #331 •••
--> @A-Caine


A-Caine wrote:
Truthfully I am quitting mafia after this game, or at least on this site. I can’t fucking stand the constant rule violations and meta. If y’all wanna lose the game be my guest. I was the one who hard pushed Fiona yesterday.


I mean, I get the frustration, I’m sure Magoroth shares it. I’m not seeing great support for your being town based on what you’ve said in response to Bleys and me so far, so that’s not helping you and it has everything to do with your own posts. As for pushing Fiona, dude, that was hardly just you, and with his massive crash-out, it’s hard to even read that as townie.

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ISO #332 •••
--> @A-Deirdre

Mag literally gave me permission .... I told him to ban it or let me do it and he asked what I would do. Told him he's let it go on so long its kinda intertwined.


So yes I had permission. Not trying to be a dickhead. After that it was a mistake and I cant remember who all these dumb names are. But im not doing weird shit. Just assigned values to who I think that slot is

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ISO #333 •••

Also was half curious if intense pressure and pushing gets him to Crack


Saying he's quitting cus of angle shooting lol. I think thats obvious why he's mad at this point

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ISO #334 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
I didnt avoid Fiona you nerd. Im stuck on oberon being magic because of his typing style and yes I thought that he was doing a gambit.


Yes you did. Don’t believe me? Do a search for Fiona on your ISO. The only thing that appears is the Fiona vote at the end.


Yes I get your mad the angle shooting solved the game.


Thanks for admitting you have zero integrity.


How is that even an argument im scum.

You are a much better player than relying on angle shooting



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ISO #335 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
Mag literally gave me permission .... I told him to ban it or let me do it and he asked what I would do. Told him he's let it go on so long its kinda intertwined.

So yes I had permission. Not trying to be a dickhead. After that it was a mistake and I cant remember who all these dumb names are. But im not doing weird shit. Just assigned values to who I think that slot is


I’ll take you at your word on that, I know a lot of this is not unusual for you generally.

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ISO #336 •••
--> @A-Caine

I didnt look at fiona cus I was tunneling magic. I ignored everyone by that logic


I had permission. So yes at least I was the only player who asked to do it and was told yes. Shove that integrity shit up your ass

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ISO #337 •••
--> @A-Deirdre

Tell me the crash out isn't telling. That is not town anger lol

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ISO #338 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
I didnt look at fiona cus I was tunneling magic. I ignored everyone by that logic

I had permission. So yes at least I was the only player who asked to do it and was told yes. Shove that integrity shit up your ass


Why did you choose to tunnel over interacting with a CC situation?

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ISO #339 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
Tell me the crash out isn't telling. That is not town anger lol


Yes. I am absolutely crashing out over your constant cheating. If we were playing this game on MU you’d have been modkilled and banned.


Also I am mad that scum is about to win due to your lies and lack of integrity.

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ISO #340 •••
--> @A-Bleys

The second I saw the cc I said fine and swapped cus I trusted luna as town and figured he saw shit I didnt.


I was off all day and came back the cc and literally said something like. Well have to deal with the cc

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ISO #341 •••
--> @A-Caine

I a s k e d. Fur PuRmiSion

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ISO #342 •••
--> @A-Caine

If your so big mad. Do us a favor and concede so we can move to the next game. Pls god

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ISO #343 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
If your so big mad. Do us a favor and concede so we can move to the next game. Pls god

No. I refuse to concede. You are scum and don’t deserve the win.

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ISO #344 •••
--> @A-Caine

How does that sentence even make sense lmao

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ISO #345 •••

Like you concede as town and i win. Nice bro

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ISO #346 •••

I absolutely refuse to concede to cheating scum. I hope everyone can see he can’t win without cheating.


Anyway I’m out for a bit. Please don’t let Random get away with this shit.

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ISO #347 •••

Can we close the theater for an intermission?

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ISO #348 •••
--> @A-Caine

Can you please tell me a world where you think a concession is viable and you could concede as a sole player in town and i would win as scum


This is literally just silly

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ISO #349 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
Can you please tell me a world where you think a concession is viable and you could concede as a sole player in town and i would win as scum

This is literally just silly


I get ML and you resch parity in the night.

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ISO #350 •••
--> @A-Caine

💩

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ISO #351 •••
--> @A-Llewella


A-Llewella wrote:
I suppose I explained poorly when I revealed.

Unless the scum team was exactly Caine and Random + the scum team both decided to remove any chance of counter claiming for zero reason then at best there is 1 scum between them. I town read Caine and scum read Random placing 1 of 2 scum between Belys and Brand essentially killing cover. Would also allow the Mafia to select 1 of 2 slots to pool their votes on to target down the Jailor and remove their cover.

I just figure there is zero reason in not mass claiming now though. I have 2 more thoughts I will unpack after everyone has claimed and push for a solve for one of them.


Can you clarify why you believe it cannot be a team of Caine + Random?

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ISO #352 •••

When's this dp over

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ISO #353 •••

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.


A-Random (1/4): A-Caine (p#175)

A-Caine (1/4): A-Random (p#232)


Not Voting (4): A-Bleys, A-Brand, A-Deirdre, A-Llewella


With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 10 hours.

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ISO #354 •••
--> @A-Llewella

Do you not feel that Brand and Random are disconnected in the ways I mentioned in #128?

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ISO #355 •••

Hey, I'm sorry that I've been so absent. There is a reason I didn't sign up for this game initially. I started typing out reads last night, didn't finish and crashed. Skimming through what's happened, I'm more or less where I was before.


First of all, Deirdre is town. I don't think I need to justify that conclusion.


I think Llewella is likely town as well. Their explanation about how they softed being VT seems believable to me, and skimming through an ISO looking at their votes, they don't come off as being opportunistic at all. There's always a chance that I'm wrong and I can expand on this read if anyone wants me to, but other than Deirdre, Llewella is the one I'm most confident of being town.


That leaves just three players and three possible teams FMPOV. I think it might be more useful for me to consider teams here.


Bleys/Caine - Both of these players had behavior on D1 that I did not like; Bleys at the beginning and Caine at the end. Caine also had a focus on voting Bleys during DP2 that in retrospect may have been a distancing move. Bleys also ends #134 by sussing Random, Caine, myself, and Llewella in that order, with the Random/Caine team being specifically floated earlier in #128. Seems like a plausible team to me, but the problem is that it'd be really risky for Bleys to throw so much shade on their own teammate, even if they said they preferred Random. They also made a couple of sharp, non-obvious observations about Caine that feel really unlikely and risky coming from Caine's partner.


Bleys/Random - See what I said at the end there; every reason I have to doubt a Bleys/Caine team is a reason to prefer a Bleys/Random team. The problem with a Bleys/Random team is that Random is still Bleys's most preferred lynch. I have a really hard time imagining scum Bleys bussing Random here when a mislynch on me or Caine would probably be easier and also win the game for scum. I think I can write off this team as being too unlikely, and I don't feel good about the first one I mentioned, either. That leaves me with...


Caine/Random - I know Deirdre said they don't quite buy that it's theater. I disagree. The arguing between them feels very overblown, and the sudden pivot from Random calling Caine a townlock during D2 to sussing him at the beginning of this day. Honestly, the whole thing with Caine suddenly voting Oberon, Random townreading him for it, then hard focusing on Oberon himself feels like a ploy one or both of them townread for reasons of "scum wouldn't vote for someone they blackmailed". But the wagon on Oberon never went anywhere and I don't think it was likely to in the first place, which makes this pretty weak. I think the scum team may have realized this, and decided to do a bussing ploy instead.


Honestly, the more I think about it, the harder I find it to believe in any pairing other than Random/Caine right now. Small chance of Caine/Bleys or that I've just been duped by a good scum performance from Llewella. But I feel pretty good about this solve tbh. I could vote either way here, lowkey tempted to vote Random first just for the disrespect they've shown for the rules.

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ISO #356 •••

As expected. He has to push me cus likely parity


Welp if lew goes that way. Game is cooked.


And sitting down for mother's day stuff shortly


Please dont throw this. I am so tired of towb trashing elo. It's impossible to iso Caine and think he's town

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ISO #357 •••
--> @A-Random


A-Random wrote:
LPlease dont throw this. I am so tired of towb trashing elo. It's impossible to iso Caine and think he's town


Yeah. Please don’t throw this and let cheating scum win. Random / Brand GG.

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ISO #358 •••

Anyway I have 20% battery left on my phone. Please don’t let Random get away with this shit.


Why do Fiona / random avoid talking to or about each other?? do not let then avoid this question.

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ISO #359 •••

I'm rereading my D1 analysis post. This post still sticks out to me. I am going to quote my earlier analysis, because I am completely convinced that it is accurate:


I believe there's worlds where Brand is town, and worlds where Brand is scum. I think that there are more worlds where Brand is scum, but we will be exploring the implications of both worlds. I do not think there are many worlds where a townie starts a wagon and then proceeds to simultaneously (1) re-justify the wagon and (2) criticize the existence of the wagon. This reeks of a mafia slip. In the s!Brand worlds, Random wants to derail the wagon on his teammate. In the t!Brand worlds, Random knows that the wagon is a mislynch and is preemptively shading the 3 town on the wagon. At this point in my reading I'm heavy scum on Random, moderate scum on Brand.


Obviously at this point I'm more confident in s!Caine than s!Brand, and have had a few reasons to townread Brand. The idea that Random made a scumslip here by leaking too much information of the alignments of the players on the wagon still stands.

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ISO #360 •••

I still think it's sus how Random left Fiona out of their read's list earlier. Really Random reeks of scum. Caine does too. I don't think a Random/Brand team is possible. I think a Random/Caine team or Brand/Caine team is possible. I want to go Caine first, as he's the common denominator. Plus, Brand wants Random first and that's the pairing I have disconnected.

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