A-Random wrote:

Dude im not even responding to you at this point. Im not petitioning to you. I know your scum. You can stop tagging me. If town throws this. They have to live with the fact that you got one over on them and thate punishment enough.

Like i get your scum but the line your reading me on is so stupid its irritating to respond to

I'm not responding to you either. I'm making my case for the rest of the town. I'm fucking done with you and I'm probably fucking done with this site. It's BS that you can't win without cheating. I'm the one who hard pushed Fiona.

From towns poe this has to be me or him

Mafia dont have an incentive to think this hard. They would already be tunneling one of us and pushing a lynch. The only reason thats not happening us cus brand is gone and cant push me and won't push kohai

Its just even more affirmation im right. But I hope to god town sees through this. Especially the rage at angle shooting and that entire bit about concession and quitting. This is so fucking obvious. Please dont throw.

A-Random wrote:

From towns poe this has to be me or him

Exactly. And if they looked carefully it is obviously you. You avoided talking to or about Fiona. Fiona avoided talking to you or about you. This is damning evidence.

Mafia dont have an incentive to think this hard. They would already be tunneling one of us and pushing a lynch. The only reason thats not happening us cus brand is gone and cant push me and won't push kohai

Exactly. I'm the easiet ML on the site by far and you know this.

Its just even more affirmation im right. But I hope to god town sees through this. Especially the rage at angle shooting and that entire bit about concession and quitting. This is so fucking obvious. Please dont throw.

Every player shouold show rage at angle shooting. Angle shooting is the same as cheating. Point blank period.

Angle shooting is cheating when the mod directly said I could and its allowed and you are still mad even though it was allowed. Wonder why 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

A-Random wrote:

Angle shooting is cheating when the mod directly said I could and its allowed and you are still mad even though it was allowed. Wonder why 🤔 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

I'm sorry for caring deeply about game integrity. I may be a retard, but at least I have integrity (which is something you clearly lack). And at least I am not scum.

Your actions clearly violated the spirit of the game multiple times. Granted, I play and mod a lot on MU where they are very strictly anti-Angelshooting.

If you are attempting to push a game in a parituclar way and the reasons are not based on what is directly happening in the game, actual game mechanics (i.e. a red check), or a player's meta then it is likely angelshooting.

Any attempt to gain an unfair advantage based on what is happening outside the game is cheating.

Nothing I did was based on what happened outside of the game. Everyone was talking about who people are and what their meta was. I asked is this allowed and if not you should ban it and if so , lmk and ill pursue it. He said it was acceptable because everyone had been doing it and asked me whether I thought people would stop and I said no. So he told me go for it

That is not cheating. Its explicitly asking for permission from the person who designed the game and it was allowed. What is or isn't allowed is determined by the mod and he allowed it.

When he asked to stop doing it and pursuing claims about who people are, I did. Outside of forgetting I was logged in on my account which you do as well

Stop grand standing. Its annoying. This higher than you bullshit is irksome and you can shove it. I asked could I do it. He said yes. Which is more than others did

The fact you are mad about is only because you are caught. Why else would you be that pissed about something the mod allowed unless it affects you and im right.

Automated Vote Count

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A-Caine (2/4): A-Random (p#232), A-Bleys (p#376)

A-Random (1/4): A-Caine (p#175)

Not Voting (3): A-Brand, A-Deirdre, A-Llewella

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 4 hours.

So we’re running short of time at this point. Seems like the biggest detractor on the Caine lynch is Llewella. Could you lay out the issue as clearly as possible? Seems like you’re pointing to posts he made about Fiona since you referenced it “wolf eating wolf play” if he’s scum and I’d like to understand where that’s coming from. Is it more than bussing?

A-Random wrote:

Nothing I did was based on what happened outside of the game. Everyone was talking about who people are and what their meta was. I asked is this allowed and if not you should ban it and if so , lmk and ill pursue it. He said it was acceptable because everyone had been doing it and asked me whether I thought people would stop and I said no. So he told me go for it

That is not cheating. Its explicitly asking for permission from the person who designed the game and it was allowed. What is or isn't allowed is determined by the mod and he allowed it.

1. The mod never gave you permission to angelshoot. The only thing he gave you permission for was to disable the anonymity of the game and allow discussions of who we actually were. That was it. Granted the mod was inconsistent about this and htat was a big mistake on his end. That said, you've gone far beyond what the mod gave you permission for.

2. p#171 - the mod himself called you out for violating the rules of the game

Anyway I'm done with interacting with cheaters. If town wants to thow and give cheaitng scum a win then I"m truly done with mafia.

The mod called me out because I accidently logged into my account. Literally you did this as well. And he gave me permission to discuss identities and their meta. Which js what you are calling angle shooting.

It makes no sense. Literally had explicit approval. Also how do you know what he gave me permission to do. He never said this publicly.

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A-Caine (2/4): A-Random (p#232), A-Bleys (p#376)

A-Random (1/4): A-Caine (p#175)

Not Voting (3): A-Brand, A-Deirdre, A-Llewella

With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 3 hours.

we have three hours left in the day phase. If y’all wanna throw and hammer me then be my guest. Before you vote I want everyone to reply and answer this question:

Why does random not mention Fiona a single time in their iso except for when they vote him?

Why does Fiona also likewise not mention Random?

I implore you all to seriously ask those questions

Why does random not mention Fiona a single time in their iso except for when they vote him? 

Why does Fiona also likewise not mention Random?

I’m not going to pretend that Random looks good in all this. Neither of you have, which is why I’ve held off on voting.

A-Deirdre wrote:

Why does random not mention Fiona a single time in their iso except for when they vote him? 

Why does Fiona also likewise not mention Random?

I’m not going to pretend that Random looks good in all this. Neither of you have, which is why I’ve held off on voting.

I understand why I don’t look good and fully admit this was not my best town game. The thing is is that from the start of d2 I pushed Fiona hard.

I understand why I don’t look good and fully admit this was not my best town game. The thing is is that from the start of d2 I pushed Fiona hard. 

And I’m still trying to decide if that push was planned or not. Fiona self-immolated, so I question if there was a purpose to it. Even if that had nothing to do with it, Fiona was guaranteed to be sussed early and often DP2. Getting on that wagon early isn’t as strong an indicator as I’d like.

I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?

A-Bleys wrote:

I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?

Doesn’t seem like it, been in a holding pattern for a while.

A-Bleys wrote:

I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?

Welcome back. Let’s chat when you get a chance.

And yeah I’ve noticed their absence as well.

A-Caine wrote:

A-Bleys wrote:

I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?

Welcome back. Let’s chat when you get a chance.

And yeah I’ve noticed their absence as well.

We can chat, but I'm also quite drunk. What would you like to talk about?

A-Bleys wrote:

A-Caine wrote:

A-Bleys wrote:

I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?

Welcome back. Let’s chat when you get a chance.

And yeah I’ve noticed their absence as well.

We can chat, but I'm also quite drunk. What would you like to talk about?

Why did you decide to vote me?

Because Brand and Ramdom look disconnected to my. That means scum team is either you and Brand or you and Random. Either team involves you

A-Bleys wrote:

Because Brand and Ramdom look disconnected to my. That means scum team is either you and Brand or you and Random. Either team involves you

In what way am I ever paired with random?

You two spamming about OOG bullshit looks like theater

You both randomly town blocked each other for basically no reason DP2

It feels like you were setting them up for a jailor fake claim

A-Bleys wrote:

You two spamming about OOG bullshit looks like theater

So you think our plan was that my partner angle shots and cheats and I call him out and whine about it and take anger? That is honestly utterly ridiculous.

A-Bleys wrote:

It feels like you were setting them up for a jailor fake claim

So I set them up for a jailor fake claim and then they claimed vanilla?

Brother, I'm too drunk to repeat myself. I think you set him up for a fake claim and I pointed out the jailor was probably dead and you decided to abandon course. I do think Random's angle shooting was bullshit. I do think they should have been modkilled for logging into their main and exclusively referring to players by OOG names. But I also asked the mod not to kill him because it would solve the game. I am actively choosing to ignore OOG bullshittery

A-Bleys wrote:

Brother, I'm too drunk to repeat myself. I think you set him up for a fake claim and I pointed out the jailor was probably dead and you decided to abandon course

If that was the case then him claiming jailor would have saved his ass. No CC and gets confirmed.

. I do think Random's angle shooting was bullshit. I do think they should have been modkilled for logging into their main and exclusively referring to players by OOG names.

Im glad we agree

But I also asked the mod not to kill him because it would solve the game. I am actively choosing to ignore OOG bullshittery

Also true.