Stereotype Mafia DP2

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

You realize that you’re talking to the guy who’s pulled this at least 4-5 times right. Wrong person to try it against. Survivability

RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

I'm trying to skim through the last few pages to understand what is happening.

Are we seriously at a point where the disagreement is just over what order Helz and Pie should claim in? Can someone just summarize why there's a problem with claiming together at the same time beyond ego and annoyance?

Helz is pulling the 'my role is conformable' card on Pie. Its kind of funny actually.

Seems like he's saying he has a confirmable every other night role from what he says. I get that he sees that as a bigger get, though it seems odd that he's so adamant about holding back on his flavor claim after saying that he didn't think it was important. I can buy that that comes down to ego, but it seems like it's just getting in the way of actual clarity.

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

RexFavilla wrote:

MeowMix wrote:

Oh actually there was one last thing I wanted to say. @Kohai or whoever is working on the site is doing some great things and I'm seeing it on mobile. ..But please god let me see post counts and double-ISO.

Anyway carry on. Vote Wylted etc. etc.

You can double iso or even triple or more. Once you iso the player name and thread drop downs both have checkboxes where you can customize the iso. I was using this to look at DP1 interactions.

Oh shit, thanks.

whiteflame wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

I'm trying to skim through the last few pages to understand what is happening.

Are we seriously at a point where the disagreement is just over what order Helz and Pie should claim in? Can someone just summarize why there's a problem with claiming together at the same time beyond ego and annoyance?

Helz is pulling the 'my role is conformable' card on Pie. Its kind of funny actually.

Seems like he's saying he has a confirmable every other night role from what he says. I get that he sees that as a bigger get, though it seems odd that he's so adamant about holding back on his flavor claim after saying that he didn't think it was important. I can buy that that comes down to ego, but it seems like it's just getting in the way of actual clarity.

I am just suspicious of Pie and why they are being so weird about claiming given they came up with this "Everyone should claim" thing

Suddenly when its their turn they want to argue about "Well its not my turn, its your turn" which is some bullshit.

Nobody elected them mayor and nobody has reason to strong town read them.

He refuses to listen to me or even answer if he’s affiliation confirmable. If yall can get it out of him, it would be great.

If its not a big deal then just fucking claim..

I claimed a ton of super telling information. Whats wrong with just saying your flavor brah?

Helz wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

Maybe you have a role you need to use once more. Maybe you need a mislynch today. Maybe you can manipulate results somehow that sets up a wifom shitshow tomorrow that let's you wiggle out of it. There are reasons to do this.

Helz wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

I'm trying to skim through the last few pages to understand what is happening.

Are we seriously at a point where the disagreement is just over what order Helz and Pie should claim in? Can someone just summarize why there's a problem with claiming together at the same time beyond ego and annoyance?

Helz is pulling the 'my role is conformable' card on Pie. Its kind of funny actually.

Seems like he's saying he has a confirmable every other night role from what he says. I get that he sees that as a bigger get, though it seems odd that he's so adamant about holding back on his flavor claim after saying that he didn't think it was important. I can buy that that comes down to ego, but it seems like it's just getting in the way of actual clarity.

I am just suspicious of Pie and why they are being so weird about claiming given they came up with this "Everyone should claim" thing

Suddenly when its their turn they want to argue about "Well its not my turn, its your turn" which is some bullshit.

Nobody elected them mayor and nobody has reason to strong town read them.

You had the exact same opportunity to do so. I have 4 votes on my side and probably more, so I technically am. You’re welcome to do the same. Or we can be normal and compromise and claim at the same time which avoids any of the CC shit you think I would pull. Pretty simple

UNVOTE

Seems like attention has peeled off Rex entirely and I did see that he posted a read list.

I get why votes have been building on Wylted as well, since his claim does stand out to me.

We're going to need to work through this first, though.

Helz wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

You could still wiggle out of it though -- argue that you could've only proven it under certain conditions and those conditions were not met NP2. Depends on the role.

RexFavilla wrote:

Helz wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

Maybe you have a role you need to use once more. Maybe you need a mislynch today. Maybe you can manipulate results somehow that sets up a wifom shitshow tomorrow that let's you wiggle out of it. There are reasons to do this.

Interesting take. I will remember it when I am confirmed town.

RexFavilla wrote:

Helz wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

Maybe you have a role you need to use once more. Maybe you need a mislynch today. Maybe you can manipulate results somehow that sets up a wifom shitshow tomorrow that let's you wiggle out of it. There are reasons to do this.

You have learned well my good friend. I’ve also claimed my character to Mikal in my chat. Speaks volumes that the guy who was so willing to do character claims is refusing to claim even at the same time

People keep focusing on me and my not claiming. I want to ask why.

Why is Pie given this weird "He is the dictator of claims" position?

What has Pie possibly done this game to deserve such a title to dictate who claims when? Why is it people have to argue against their established "I CLAIM LAST" thing?

What is the reasoning for this position to begin with?

ILikePie5 wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Helz wrote:

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

Logically- If I was scum saying "I have a confirmable role" and it was not true it would be when we were in MYLO or LYLO right?

There is no reason for scum to do it now. This should speak volumes.

It wouldn't be worth jack shit at MYLO but someone might be willing to fall for it the day before MYLO

Sure. But tomorrow I would die. MYLO or not. I either prove myself or I die right?

Maybe you have a role you need to use once more. Maybe you need a mislynch today. Maybe you can manipulate results somehow that sets up a wifom shitshow tomorrow that let's you wiggle out of it. There are reasons to do this.

You have learned well my good friend. I’ve also claimed my character to Mikal in my chat. Speaks volumes that the guy who was so willing to do character claims is refusing to claim even at the same time

Except I am 100% not refusing to claim. I am just demanding yours first.

wylted wrote:

Excuse the fuck out of me for flying to another place to negotiate a business issue.

Try zoom

I would rather pound long islands and take a nap. But thanks for the tip on how I could make my entire life circle around some video game.

Simple yes or no question:

Are you affiliation confirmable to everyone without a doubt?

Helz wrote:

People keep focusing on me and my not claiming. I want to ask why.

Why is Pie given this weird "He is the dictator of claims" position?

What has Pie possibly done this game to deserve such a title to dictate who claims when? Why is it people have to argue against their established "I CLAIM LAST" thing?

What is the reasoning for this position to begin with?

I feel like you keep getting more caught up in defying perceived authority than in advancing the game. The only reason I'm not pressuring Pie right now is because he agreed to a compromise and you haven't.

I've explained why I want to know everyone's flavors. Multiple people have explained why confirming your role next DP isn't an ironclad promise.

Helz wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

I'm trying to skim through the last few pages to understand what is happening.

Are we seriously at a point where the disagreement is just over what order Helz and Pie should claim in? Can someone just summarize why there's a problem with claiming together at the same time beyond ego and annoyance?

Helz is pulling the 'my role is conformable' card on Pie. Its kind of funny actually.

Seems like he's saying he has a confirmable every other night role from what he says. I get that he sees that as a bigger get, though it seems odd that he's so adamant about holding back on his flavor claim after saying that he didn't think it was important. I can buy that that comes down to ego, but it seems like it's just getting in the way of actual clarity.

I am just suspicious of Pie and why they are being so weird about claiming given they came up with this "Everyone should claim" thing

Suddenly when its their turn they want to argue about "Well its not my turn, its your turn" which is some bullshit.

Nobody elected them mayor and nobody has reason to strong town read them.

Much as I'm not giving him any credit for it, this really isn't unusual for Pie as town or scum. Pushing off on his claim in an attempt to get useful information is not unusual. I get how that can be frustrating and I've had my share of instances where I've sussed similar behavior from him. That being said, I think this is more likely a town v. town situation, and I'd rather just move on from it if possible. I can't see either of you being my lynch of choice this DP at this rate.

ILikePie5 wrote:

Simple yes or no question:

Are you affiliation confirmable to everyone without a doubt?

Yes

Wryly wrote:

Helz wrote:

People keep focusing on me and my not claiming. I want to ask why.

Why is Pie given this weird "He is the dictator of claims" position?

What has Pie possibly done this game to deserve such a title to dictate who claims when? Why is it people have to argue against their established "I CLAIM LAST" thing?

What is the reasoning for this position to begin with?

I feel like you keep getting more caught up in defying perceived authority than in advancing the game. The only reason I'm not pressuring Pie right now is because he agreed to a compromise and you haven't.

I've explained why I want to know everyone's flavors. Multiple people have explained why confirming your role next DP isn't an ironclad promise.

And I feel like I have very clearly explained how my commitment to a claim should demand they claim first.

Helz wrote:

ILikePie5 wrote:

Simple yes or no question:

Are you affiliation confirmable to everyone without a doubt?

Yes

Great, that’s all I needed.

My character is: Women. It’s why I acted as a girl early on in DP1. Wryly nailed it earlier in the DP

UNVOTE

VTL: Ultracrepidarian

Debating whether to vote Ultra or wylted then. Does Lunatic *always* use the "contribute your voice" vanilla phrasing?

Wryly wrote:

Debating whether to vote Ultra or wylted then. Does Lunatic *always* use the "contribute your voice" vanilla phrasing?

You can look back all the way to DART. Last 5-10 games about half had Vanillas and they all had the voice vote piece

Mikal can confirm that I told him in chat.

So what’s the hold up now :)