Just VTNL.
Just VTNL.
I still don’t know what to type!
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No Lynch (3/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285)
whiteflame (2/5): RexFavilla (p#154), wylted (p#194)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
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No Lynch (4/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285), wylted (p#303)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
whiteflame (1/5): RexFavilla (p#154)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 7/7/2026 at 2:24 PM (post #289)
I was going to post a larger iteration of the basics of that post, which were that I thought the possibilities were
Luna/WF T/T - Luna is bodyguard
Luna/WF S/T - Luna is scum redirector
Luna/WF T/S - Luna is town redirector
My thinking with this setup was that if you were town you would immediately take umbrage at the third - that if Luna was a town redirector that you could not earnestly scumread him as a town player. I feel like if I were town and had worked through the possibilities of your results in my head and somebody precluded me from sussing a town redirector as town it would be something I would immediately call out because I would have done just that in my own head. But if I was scum faking it? It wouldn't immediately stick out to me as much because I wouldn't actively be reasoning through all the possibilities trying to make sense of my results. If you had picked up on that I would have townread you on it. You didn't. And ever since then the DP has felt very political - like you didn't want to drive a wagon on me but wanted to cut the legs off of any argument that I was town to build consensus against me and let other people build it - maybe your scummate, maybe just mislead town.
I don't support a no lynch. I'd honestly rather you lynch me so you can see I'm town and pick up on the way WF has been acting this DP and move the game forward. If we no lynch the game will just stagnate
Hmm. I really didn't pick that up from #181 and there's a chance whiteflame didn't either, hence his comment that he would let you elaborate before responding.
No.
Someone hammer the VTNL please.
I still don’t know what to type!
I'll VTNL before the clock runs out.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/7/2026 at 2:10 PM (post #268)
It shouldn't factor into your decision, but if you feel the same way tomorrow, I implore you go all in on pressuring me. There's so much I don't want to say or respond to wrt to my role because it will tamper a strategy I am attempting, so I have had to ignore a few salient points you have made in your last response to me. A lot of things will make sense when I eventually claim. I know that sounds a lot like a "Just trust me bro" but.... Just trust me bro
Lunatic going for a Persuasion check. Let's roll the dice and see if his Charisma is high enough!
... check succeeds!
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No Lynch (4/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285), wylted (p#303)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
whiteflame (1/5): RexFavilla (p#154)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Worth noting that Lunatic and Rex had two different reasons for not wanting to VTNL. Rex’s is very towny (self sacrificial) while Lunatic’s is quite lazy. We had four hours and only three people on Rex. We can get 3 people in four to VTNL, I mean shoot, did it real quick and we got a fourth just now. To be clear: Being VTNL-averse isn’t inherently scummy, but saying “oh we dont have time for it” when we only need three/maybe four people in four hours (assuming one is coming off the Rex wagon) comes off as a quickly-drawn, fabricated reason to avoid a VTNL.
I still don’t know what to type!
That being said, Pie’s posts are bad for Pie standards. I feel there was an attempt to buddy Banana DP1, and he’s kinda just letting town fall to its doom this DP. There was something else that bothered me but I forgot what it was.
I still don’t know what to type!
Whiteflame, I already noted his post at the DP1 start, otherwise it’s just vibes. I don’t how to put it but it feels off.
I still don’t know what to type!
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No Lynch (4/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285), wylted (p#303)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
whiteflame (1/5): RexFavilla (p#154)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Been in meetings all day, I’m here now
Town space
Banana
Mag1c
In orbit
Wylted
Wryly
Mafia Atmosphere
Lunatic
Whiteflame
Pie
no particular order
I still don’t know what to type!
im forgetting someone
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Right. Rex is town. Put him either in orbit or in town space. He’s all but townlocked for me.
I still don’t know what to type!
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No Lynch (4/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285), wylted (p#303)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
whiteflame (1/5): RexFavilla (p#154)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/7/2026 at 3:12 PM (post #321)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 7/7/2026 at 3:10 PM (post #317)
Town space
Banana
Mag1c
In orbit
Wylted
Wryly
Mafia Atmosphere
Lunatic
Whiteflame
Pie
no particular order
Full agreement. Regarding #312 I didn't see Lunatic give much pushback on a VTNL, wdym?
it was before he voted. He initially tried to say we didn’t have time for it but then jumped on it and said nevermind.
I still don’t know what to type!
Feel like it's either Luna/Pie or Pie/WF at the mo
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/7/2026 at 3:15 PM (post #324)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 7/7/2026 at 3:13 PM (post #322)
it was before he voted. He initially tried to say we didn’t have time for it but then jumped on it and said nevermind.
You mean when he said he would support a no lynch but he didn't think we could pull it off?
yeah. When we definitely could have and are pulling it off.
But lowkey, with Whiteflame seemingly against him, I favor Pie-Whiteflame over any combination involving Lunatic. But all three are firmly in the scum atmosphere.
I still don’t know what to type!
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No Lynch (4/5): Mag1cman (p#270), Banana (p#278), Lunatic (p#285), wylted (p#303)
RexFavilla (2/5): whiteflame (p#220), ILikePie5 (p#245)
whiteflame (1/5): RexFavilla (p#154)
Not Voting (1): Wryly
With 8 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 hours.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Couple things. I've kind of let Mikal's death fall by the wayside of my analyses -- I still think scum only NKs him if they think he's very likely to shoot one of theirs. I will note that whiteflame was in both of Mikal's stated POEs.
I townread Rex and Banana, and Mag1c of course, who is about to die a soldier's death. *salute* Rex is right, we shouldn't have let Pie lead a claim wagon on him. Alas, Pie is a good wagonrouser.
I feel like Pie jumped on Rex really quick today for just vibe FOSing whiteflame. He also handwaved the suspicions against whiteflame's role.
Yeah. I get Pie starting the wagon me was a little cheeky as well.
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I think Pie*
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Everyone who is saying WF is scum, he’s our only investigative role. I don’t see much conversation about that. Not to mention that Luna townreads WFs.