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BROR Mafia [day phase 3]

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Main Host: Kohai
Living Players: Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman, whiteflame, Wryly, wylted
Base Elimination Threshold: 4
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ISO #61 •••

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Lunatic (1/4): Wryly (p#30)

Wryly (1/4): wylted (p#44)


Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman, whiteflame


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ISO #62 •••
--> @Lunatic
Looking at this and your post above it, it's hard to believe there are two NP2+ Vigs in the game, and that's coming from someone who got that exact role on my list of three. If you're a Serial Killer TP or something, now would be a good time to clarify given that we're likely at MYLO.

Do you not believe your own results or something? I don't know what to tell you. Im a NP2 vig. That's what I am.

I trust that my results are accurate, but they don't say anything about alignment. Two town Vigs, even with a delay, aren't believable. Having another killing role in play likely means it's associated with a TP, and while that's still hard to stomach, it can at least make some sense from a balance perspective.
When have you ever seen a mafia or third party titled "Night 2 activated vig"? Regardless of your assumption about my alignment, the existence of a second vig is 100% proof the balance is fucked.


I'll admit I've never seen a role like that outside of town, but I'm balancing how strange that is against town somehow having two of the exact same role that allows those players to shoot multiple times. The balance being off doesn't mean I can completely ignore it as an issue.

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ISO #63 •••
--> @Wryly
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 8:33 PM (post #50)
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.


That's... a new one. Never had someone who didn't confirm the role before MYLO/LYLO. On that basis, you should at least be able to confirm that it is MYLO, right?


Okay but if I wasn't a vig, and we got a mislynch instead, we would have been in the exact same spot numbers wise, so this is either an oversight, or a lie.
Oh yeah. I should've claimed last DP then. Oh well. I'm not good at keeping track of the numbers. With no confirmable role, I'm sure my head's on the block. I'm not even mad, my fault for trying to be too clever about the Popular thing and losing track of the math.


Yeah, I agree with Luna on this one. I'm tempted to view it as a big oversight on your part because that's what your statement above reads as. It's just a weird position to put yourself in. Even if you are actually Popular, that obviously wouldn't confirm your alignment, but now we're just taking your role claim on faith. Did you give the justification?

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Lunatic (1/4): Wryly (p#30)

Wryly (1/4): wylted (p#44)


Not Voting (4): Banana, Lunatic, Mag1cman, whiteflame


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ISO #65 •••
--> @Wryly


Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 7:01 PM (post #60)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 8:51 PM (post #58)

Popular is one of those roles that mods frequently use for both teams, you can claim that dp1 and still receive a bit of suspivion for it. Also as you now know, it loses all utility in MYLO as that would be OP. So in general, it's considered an SOP claim.

Hated, yes. Popular, eh.


I mean you are seeing the reason it is SOP in real time, not even sure how that's an "eh"


Yes, 100%, I'm hoping against hope Kohai gave scum like a Graverobber and a JOAT and that this game is not terribly balanced. I must have faith that I will not facepalm at endgame!

Coming innnn on a winggg and a prayerrrrr~


A graverobber, assuming this is a thing, wouldn't it just give me an unlimited use of vig, thus still presenting a balance issue? Or a JOAT with an extra night kill? No matter how you spin this, we have a balance issue at play, regardless of what you think my affiliation is, the balance is 100% confirmably bad, me being scum town or 3p doesn't change that fact.



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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

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--> @whiteflame

"You're a favorite in the series." (¬_¬)

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--> @Wryly
Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 9:41 PM (post #66)
"You're a favorite in the series." (¬_¬)


Well, I absolutely believe you would have come up with something better if you were making this yourself, so the question is whether this is a real part of your PM written by Kohai or something you designed to look like it.


Either way... yeah, I get the expression.

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I mean you are seeing the reason it is SOP in real time, not even sure how that's an "eh"


As long as you're not an unfocused idiot and lose track of the approach of MYLO, it's an "eh."


A graverobber, assuming this is a thing, wouldn't it just give me an unlimited use of vig, thus still presenting a balance issue? Or a JOAT with an extra night kill? No matter how you spin this, we have a balance issue at play, regardless of what you think my affiliation is, the balance is 100% confirmably bad, me being scum town or 3p doesn't change that fact.


When it's a mafia-aligned role it is sometimes called Mugger, and it was used in Barry mafia, as an example.


What's a worse balance issue? 1) Giving two town players unlimited Vigs, or 2) giving one town player a Vig and one mafia player a Graverobber/Scavenger/Mugger, with a 1 in 8 chance they will target the Vig with it? I argue the first.

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As long as you're not an unfocused idiot and lose track of the approach of MYLO, it's an "eh."

Would you not have suspected someone claiming popular late game even assuming it wasn’t mylo?



When it's a mafia-aligned role it is sometimes called Mugger, and it was used in Barry mafia, as an example. 

But your point is that I am not a town aligned big so this doesn’t help your case against me. Whiteflames role literally listed a np2 activated vig.


What's a worse balance issue? 1) Giving two town players unlimited Vigs, or 2) giving one town player a Vig and one mafia player a Graverobber/Scavenger/Mugger, with a 1 in 8 chance they will target the Vig with it? I argue the first.


All of these are equally as bad for balance. The only thing that would make sense for balance is if it was exactly one 1x vig and it was a 8-2 set up, that way it could account for the extra mislynch we miss from a 7-3 in a normal 9 player set up. 2 every night vigges is absolutely insane and chaotic, this game could be over right now if we don’t no lynch yesterday

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #70 •••
--> @Wryly


Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 4:38 PM (post #22)
No new hope message? D:

i missed it, I was inactive :(

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ISO #71 •••
--> @Lunatic


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 7/8/2026 at 5:03 PM (post #26)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 1:47 PM (post #6)
Let's hear it
So yeah I am the (Real? Second?) Night 2 activated vigilante and I murdered rex. Yeah. There's a reason I was saying balance in this game was absolutely whack. This is also why I was sold that mikal was lying about being a vig in day phase one and was pulling some gambit, my mind couldn't wrap around the existance of a second night 2 activated vigilante..


I am John Wick btw, my other submission was the GOAT Tyrion Lannister, and Louis Creed (My favorite book written character from Stephen King's Pet Semetary).

I needed to get through day 2 without claiming this because if anything happened to stop my role from going through, I would have no way of confirming myself, and there was absolutely no way in hell yall would have let me survive anyway if I told you I was the Night 2 activated vig after mikals flip. So yeah balance is completely fucked. This was also the reason I was okay with no lynching yesterday because I wanted to get a kill off and prove myself, and I wanted to lynch rex anyway, so figured killing rex would basically accomplish the same thing as a lynch without as much punishment.

….. this is crazy

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ISO #72 •••
--> @Wryly


Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/8/2026 at 6:33 PM (post #50)
Well fuck my life. I'm Town Popular. If we're in MYLO, I'm not confirmable and that's gg lol.


!!!


u waited til mylo to claim popular????


i dont believe it, wryly has to be scum


VTL: Wryly


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ISO #73 •••

VTL: Wryly


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ISO #74 •••

VTL: Wryly


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #75 •••

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Wryly (4/4): wylted (p#44), Banana (p#72), whiteflame (p#73), Lunatic (p#74)

Lunatic (1/4): Wryly (p#30)


Not Voting (1): Mag1cman


With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 18 hours.

⚠️ Wryly has reached the lynch threshold. Hammer appears to be p#74.

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Huh. How did that happen?

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ISO #79 •••

UNVOTE


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ISO #80 •••

uh oh… what have i done

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ISO #81 •••

i didnt even realize Wylted voted nooooo

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im gonna go bury my head in the sand. sorrrrrrryyggg

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ISO #86 •••

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Lunatic (2/4): Wryly (p#30), wylted (p#85)

Wryly (2/4): whiteflame (p#73), Lunatic (p#74)


Not Voting (2): Banana (p#79), Mag1cman


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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #87 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 7/8/2026 at 9:01 PM (post #82)
I assume you guys can't say anything yet just in case but while we wait. GG


GGs yeah don’t think we can lose. We have roles to prevent magic from doccing our kill so should be a win. If not well… oops

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #88 •••

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Lunatic (2/4): Wryly (p#30), wylted (p#85)

Wryly (2/4): whiteflame (p#73), Lunatic (p#74)


Not Voting (2): Banana (p#79), Mag1cman


With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 18 hours.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

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ISO #90 •••
--> @Banana, @Lunatic, @Mag1cman, @whiteflame, @Wryly, @wylted

ATTENTION


Wryly has met the lynch thresh hold but was not lynched. Day continues.

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein