Candace Owens Cinematic Universe DP1

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 11:13 PM (post #206)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 8:25 PM (post #192)

Why don't you think Kohai's claim has value?

I do think that it would have value. The question is whether the net value would favor scum or town. I haven't seen anything particularly scummy from Kohai, so a claim from him would likely help scum more than us.

I'd like to get a clear set of reads from you before the DP ends, feels like I don't have a bead on your views of most of the players in this game.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:15 PM (post #208)

FYI unless I get to L2 I'm not. claiming.

Alright, good to know. Personally, I think we should only get one more claim at this point and then make a call.

Calling it here. I don't have a debate to work on anymore, so I'll be on early tomorrow to hash out a lynch if we haven't already.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #212)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:15 PM (post #208)

FYI unless I get to L2 I'm not. claiming.

Alright, good to know. Personally, I think we should only get one more claim at this point and then make a call.

Can you loop me in while I catch up? How many folks ahve actually claimed

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Lunatic (2/5): ILikePie5 (p#94), wylted (p#199)

Mikal (2/5): Thoth (p#177), whiteflame (p#205)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

whiteflame (1/5): Kohai (p#116)

Not Voting (3): Lunatic, Vader, Wryly

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 12 hours.

It looks like we're leaning Mikal or Kohai today, and I think I would still rather go Mikal. On Kohai we just have him wanting a character claim from me and that he transitioned real quick from "Pie town" to "lynching Pie may be warranted"; on Mikal we have him wanting Pie lynched on the chance that scum can pull off two kills tonight, which is a lot more of a reach. This means Mikal was thinking Rex made a game where town loses unless we lynch the Hated DP1 out of an overabundance of caution, and it's just hard for me to buy that Mikal would seriously consider that.

VTL: Mikal

VTL: Lunatic

I think I want to go here. After seeing him in my last game I think I figured out lunatic's scum meta. Lunatic, as scum, doesn't seem to try and make reads and push people. Compared to other games where he's fully pushing people I don't see that here

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Lunatic (3/5): ILikePie5 (p#94), wylted (p#199), Kohai (p#217)

Mikal (3/5): Thoth (p#177), whiteflame (p#205), Wryly (p#216)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

Not Voting (2): Lunatic, Vader

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 12 hours.

I think there's probably at least 1 wolf between mikal / luna. I think luna's a better lynch than mikal

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 10:24 PM (post #211)

I'd like to get a clear set of reads from you before the DP ends, feels like I don't have a bead on your views of most of the players in this game.

If I have to, I would say:

wylted is strong townlean for the Candace claim

Mikal's not-really-a-claim is scumleanworthy

I don't see Pie as likely to immediately fake-claim Hated, but I suppose scum!Pie could have used some of their fake-claim info to do it for towncred

I suppose Wryly's silly fake-claim is a very minor townlean. I don't know if Wryly would attract that much attention as scum

Vader's takes have been solid. Kohai has been tunnelly and said some weird things, but that's NAI for him. Null on both

Lunatic's #162 and #166 come off as tunnelly on Kohai

My top pick for a lynch is Mikal, closely followed by Lunatic.

I think Wryly has to be put in the POE. Not my top choice personally but I think the litmus test was really weird. For #1, this really didn't do much considering that it was treated as a joke. The worst case scenario for doing it is everyone treats it as a joke and you have no clue what happened. Best case scenario, you get a claim from someone that didn't read and CC'd. Again I get it, that is Wryly's personality, but that type of test does more harm than good. I don't think I would lynch but off of behavior that does sticks out.

Oh just fucking lynch me. I'd rather be unalived than have to deal with the fallout from a boob joke for the rest of the game.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/20/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #216)

It looks like we're leaning Mikal or Kohai today, and I think I would still rather go Mikal. On Kohai we just have him wanting a character claim from me and that he transitioned real quick from "Pie town" to "lynching Pie may be warranted"; on Mikal we have him wanting Pie lynched on the chance that scum can pull off two kills tonight, which is a lot more of a reach. This means Mikal was thinking Rex made a game where town loses unless we lynch the Hated DP1 out of an overabundance of caution, and it's just hard for me to buy that Mikal would seriously consider that.

As much as I agree with all this, and despite my own scumread of Mikal, I have a hard time believing that scum!Mikal would seriously argue those points. But I have a hard time believing that town!Mikal would argue them either, so I suppose it's a moot point.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/20/2026 at 10:38 PM (post #221)

Oh just fucking lynch me. I'd rather be unalived than have to deal with the fallout from a boob joke for the rest of the game.

Janet Jackson is that you?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #217)

VTL: Lunatic

I think I want to go here. After seeing him in my last game I think I figured out lunatic's scum meta. Lunatic, as scum, doesn't seem to try and make reads and push people. Compared to other games where he's fully pushing people I don't see that here

What is it with you and wylted on Lunatic? He made it pretty clear he didn't even really consent to this game, but once he had time he contributed and his reads don't look bad. He's in the same camp with Vader imo. Late to start but nothing jumps out as scummy.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 11:40 PM (post #223)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/20/2026 at 10:38 PM (post #221)

Oh just fucking lynch me. I'd rather be unalived than have to deal with the fallout from a boob joke for the rest of the game.

Janet Jackson is that you?

I lol'd irl. That's a rare honor, so appreciate it accordingly.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/20/2026 at 11:39 PM (post #222)

Originally Posted by Wryly on 7/20/2026 at 10:35 PM (post #216)

It looks like we're leaning Mikal or Kohai today, and I think I would still rather go Mikal. On Kohai we just have him wanting a character claim from me and that he transitioned real quick from "Pie town" to "lynching Pie may be warranted"; on Mikal we have him wanting Pie lynched on the chance that scum can pull off two kills tonight, which is a lot more of a reach. This means Mikal was thinking Rex made a game where town loses unless we lynch the Hated DP1 out of an overabundance of caution, and it's just hard for me to buy that Mikal would seriously consider that.

As much as I agree with all this, and despite my own scumread of Mikal, I have a hard time believing that scum!Mikal would seriously argue those points. But I have a hard time believing that town!Mikal would argue them either, so I suppose it's a moot point.

Hmm. That's not a bad point. Jeez, Thoth, I'm an indecisive DP1 voter in the best of times, don't mindfuck me.

We have seen Mikal do some pretty ballsy things as scum before though.

GTMH vader and wrytly both feel town.

We have 11 hours to make a decision.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:34 PM (post #214)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #212)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:15 PM (post #208)

FYI unless I get to L2 I'm not. claiming.

Alright, good to know. Personally, I think we should only get one more claim at this point and then make a call.

Can you loop me in while I catch up? How many folks ahve actually claimed

I really am going to hop off after this, but with Pie’s full claim (Ben Shapiro, Hated), Wylted’s character claim (Candice Owens), and Mikal’s soft character and role claims (Jew, some scummy role), I think we’ve covered the gamut.

I'm fine swapping to Lunatic.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 11:52 PM (post #229)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:34 PM (post #214)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 7/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #212)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 7/20/2026 at 11:15 PM (post #208)

FYI unless I get to L2 I'm not. claiming.

Alright, good to know. Personally, I think we should only get one more claim at this point and then make a call.

Can you loop me in while I catch up? How many folks ahve actually claimed

I really am going to hop off after this, but with Pie’s full claim (Ben Shapiro, Hated), Wylted’s character claim (Candice Owens), and Mikal’s soft character and role claims (Jew, some scummy role), I think we’ve covered the gamut.

Agreed. Absolutely no more claims this day phase

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Lunatic (3/5): ILikePie5 (p#94), wylted (p#199), Kohai (p#217)

Mikal (3/5): Thoth (p#177), whiteflame (p#205), Wryly (p#216)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

Not Voting (2): Lunatic, Vader

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Day phase ends in 11 hours.

Why are you guys on Lunatic, srsly

I am willing to swap to Lunatic, but I don't want to accidentally hammer.

Because it would end the day phase without any chance for further discussion, or at least without a chance to change targets.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 7/21/2026 at 12:25 AM (post #237)

Because it would end the day phase without any chance for further discussion, or at least without a chance to change targets.

We have less than 11 hours remaining in the day phase. If there were 24+ hours left I would understand this view point

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Mikal (3/5): Thoth (p#177), whiteflame (p#205), Wryly (p#216)

Lunatic (2/5): ILikePie5 (p#94), Kohai (p#217)

ILikePie5 (1/5): Mikal (p#63)

Thoth (1/5): wylted (p#236)

Not Voting (2): Lunatic, Vader

With 9 players alive, the base elimination threshold is 5. Public role modifiers may change an individual player's threshold. Day phase ends in 11 hours.