Gonna take a break from the game. Gotta finish my drash for shabbat. See y'all later. Hopefully there can be some clarity between now and then
Gonna take a break from the game. Gotta finish my drash for shabbat. See y'all later. Hopefully there can be some clarity between now and then
I'll lay out some requests, then I'm done for the night. I have other thoughts, but I'm going to keep them to myself for now and wait for some answers. Since I literally have a giant, mod-confirmed green check over my head at this point, I might as well use it to some effect. I've got enough insight into Kohai that I don't have any questions for him.
Wylted, I'd like the justification on that Caroler. I believe Link is in this game and I have little reason to mistrust you, but I'm covering all the bases.
Rex, full claim with justification when you get on.
Mag1c, full claim with justification when you get on. You have something to reveal and at this point, it's pretty ridiculous to hold back. Having a green check from Luna doesn't give you much cover at this point.
Luna, spell out your justification. You gave your full claim, but I can't find that.
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #776)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
This does check out flavor wise.
If you were roleblocked last night then that may be why wlyed moved.
Some things to consider:
The more I think about it the less likely I think wylted/mikal is a scum team. If there is scum in that, its one or the other. Role confirmation doesnt always mean affiliation confirmation, so there is a chance that wylted is a scum comedian, or even at minimum that he has some ability to send fake results. Either way there is mod confirmation going on with thoth confirming that results got sent, but that doesn't really clear anyone. Just confirms that someone should have got results and didn't.
So there are more options here than we think. Small possibility that thoth was also just confirming a mistake was made in general, and not confirming that the mistake was dinstinctly made with mikal. Though him responding to it right after mikal begged him publicly isn't a good look for a general mistake, it looks more like a direct response to mikal.
Regardless, magic needs to full claim.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:07 PM (post #777)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #776)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
This does check out flavor wise.
If you were roleblocked last night then that may be why wlyed moved.
i wasnt told i was roleblocked, so that's only possible if Thoth doesn't tell people which would be weird
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:08 PM (post #778)
Some things to consider:
The more I think about it the less likely I think wylted/mikal is a scum team. If there is scum in that, its one or the other. Role confirmation doesnt always mean affiliation confirmation, so there is a chance that wylted is a scum comedian, or even at minimum that he has some ability to send fake results. Either way there is mod confirmation going on with thoth confirming that results got sent, but that doesn't really clear anyone. Just confirms that someone should have got results and didn't.
So there are more options here than we think. Small possibility that thoth was also just confirming a mistake was made in general, and not confirming that the mistake was dinstinctly made with mikal. Though him responding to it right after mikal begged him publicly isn't a good look for a general mistake, it looks more like a direct response to mikal.
Regardless, magic needs to full claim.
He just did
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #776)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
Yep, that's... a pretty big wrench to throw in the mix. What are the odds that scum got Link as a fake claim?
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:08 PM (post #781)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #776)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
Yep, that's... a pretty big wrench to throw in the mix. What are the odds that scum got Link as a fake claim?
somewhat common that major characters are left out for scum to claim. Pie does it in a lot of his games. idr if i have or not.
I still don’t know what to type!
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
So unless Thoth royally fucked up, then mag1c is scum.
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
I didn't?
where was I roleblocked? I wasnt.
I still don’t know what to type!
seriously Kohai what are you even talking about?
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #785)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
I didn't?
where was I roleblocked? I wasnt.
You said you targeted wylted. Wylted action went through so either the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted or Mag1c / Luna
Is there a world where scum have a Caroler
Im okay with magic either way
I think he is scum in every world by poe and if he flips scum. It means luna tried to town lock him and luna is the other scum. But I think we start with magic
I can confirm wylteds action went through so yeah. Magic outright lied
We start him
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:12 PM (post #787)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #785)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
I didn't?
where was I roleblocked? I wasnt.
You said you targeted wylted. Wylted action went through so either the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted or Mag1c / Luna
and???
Yes Im saying wylted is scum. I don't understand your point here
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #786)
seriously Kohai what are you even talking about?
You stated: i wasnt told i was roleblocked, so that's only possible if Thoth doesn't tell people which would be weird
Thoth confirmed that a jailkeeper who gets blocked would be told they were blocked but not why. So that means the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted. The only possible other alternative explanation is you were redirected somewhere
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:08 PM (post #779)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:07 PM (post #777)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:02 PM (post #776)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 10:15 PM (post #726)
Full claim time
I am Pamela and Jailkeeper. Justification is that after her father gets infected, Pamela locks her father in a closet and both of them in the house to protect him from the Gibdos.
I jailkept Wylted last night. I don't know if Mikal is in on it or the exact nature of the mod error, but there's some shit going on and I'm pretty sure Wylted is lock scum either way. He shouldn't have moved last night. Either his teammate sent Mikal a message, or Mikal is his teammate.
This does check out flavor wise.
If you were roleblocked last night then that may be why wlyed moved.
i wasnt told i was roleblocked, so that's only possible if Thoth doesn't tell people which would be weird
*sigh* I really wanted to knock off for the night, but now I've been thinking of this too much.
I've confirmed several things with Thoth. If Mag1c is the JK, he would have been informed that he'd been RB'd if he had. The JK also would have been effective if his target had RB'd him, though that's less important, too many variables there.
ok so Wylted/Mikal then
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:01 PM (post #775)
Luna, spell out your justification. You gave your full claim, but I can't find that.
"Justification for my role is that I give important information to link in defiance of my master, and won't be silent about the truth."
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Magic could not have jailkept wylted given the mod confirmation of saying he would be informed. So magiv could not have been messed with and i got wylteds result
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:13 PM (post #791)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #786)
seriously Kohai what are you even talking about?
You stated: i wasnt told i was roleblocked, so that's only possible if Thoth doesn't tell people which would be weird
Thoth confirmed that a jailkeeper who gets blocked would be told they were blocked but not why. So that means the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted. The only possible other alternative explanation is you were redirected somewhere
what are you talking about?
I don't get your logic.
I wasn't roleblocked. Where are you getting that from? I said it would be werid if I was
I still don’t know what to type!
Granted, there is a world where mag1c could be godfather and luna is town
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 PM (post #795)
Magic could not have jailkept wylted given the mod confirmation of saying he would be informed. So magiv could not have been messed with and i got wylteds result
how do we even know Mikal and Wylted's explanation of the mod slip is even correct?
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:14 PM (post #796)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:13 PM (post #791)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #786)
seriously Kohai what are you even talking about?
You stated: i wasnt told i was roleblocked, so that's only possible if Thoth doesn't tell people which would be weird
Thoth confirmed that a jailkeeper who gets blocked would be told they were blocked but not why. So that means the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted. The only possible other alternative explanation is you were redirected somewhere
what are you talking about?
I don't get your logic.
I wasn't roleblocked. Where are you getting that from? I said it would be werid if I was
A jailkeeper would have blocked any actions. Wylted's action went through. Ergo wylted wasn't blocked
I think this is a lock. Cus magic almost implicitly locks luna
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:12 PM (post #787)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:11 PM (post #785)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
I didn't?
where was I roleblocked? I wasnt.
You said you targeted wylted. Wylted action went through so either the team is exactly Mikal / Wylted or Mag1c / Luna
Yes, that is his point about Mikal and Wylted basically being confirmed scum based on his night action. Where's the slip?
VTL: Mag1cman