Can we pls fucking solve kohai tomorrow.
Magic said he roleblocked wylted. He didnt. I habe results
So either magic was redirected and daddy wylted is a scum tailor
Or magic is lying.
We can stare at the kohai luna thing tomorrow. Please dont drag this dp out. Game is aids and just want to keep it moving
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:39 PM (post #860)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:34 PM (post #846)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:25 PM (post #825)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:
"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target
If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"
Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.
Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:
Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.
I dont understand where the roleblocking thing even came from and got him to vote magic though. That seemed sus as fuck, pretending he caught onto a slip to jump on board with mikal there. Seemed a bit coordinated.
Yeah, there's something odd going on there. I've got to interrogate my thinking on Kohai a bit.
the whole case against me just asks that we all buy the modslip is exactly one that confirms Mikal and Wylted. We don't know that for sure.
I still don’t know what to type!
Thats my point. Hes scum or wylted is a scum caroler
From magics pov scum has go be exactly wykted and I cus we are validating each other and invalidating his result.
I'm tired, we still haven't seen Rex, and I'm done arguing this tonight. The last thing I'll do is direct everyone's attention to what Mikal keeps calling out as an admission of fuck up (post #709):
Yes. It is true. I made a mod error last night. Like the board around the neck of a convicted criminal in Imperial China, I must trod down the boulevards of Clock Town with this shameful admission open for all to see.
An error. It doesn't say what error. It doesn't say who was affected by it. It doesn't say what corrective measures he took. I have no doubt that Wylted and Mikal are on the same page, which means they're either both scum, or neither of them are. I'd say it's likely the same thing for Mag1c and Luna, though it's less that they're paired and more that the result Kohai received from Luna indicates that Mag1c is town. That could be real. That could be a scum Messenger result. That could be the result of a GF role or something like it.
I'm nervous about Kohai here, but he's not my focus right now. Wylted and Mikal are more concerning to me atm, and I'm favoring lynching one of them over Mag1c and Luna. But we'll see where I'm at tomorrow. Please, don't hammer anyone overnight, at least not before we get a claim from Rex.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:40 PM (post #862)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #854)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:31 PM (post #841)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:27 PM (post #830)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #825)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:
"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target
If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"
Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.
Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:
Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.
How is it not a slip? If he didn't get a "your action failed" message, then:
1. Wylted was actually blocked and is lying
2. Got redirected to someone else
Yes, #1 is precisely his point. Where's the scum slip in that argument?
hold on. If Wylted has a teammate who sent Mikal a carol and wylted claimed caroler, it's possible to have both a jailkeep that roleblocks Wylted and for Mikal to recivee a carol, isn't it?
Wylted is still scum either way but worth nothing. Probably still Mikal but Kohai is acting so dumb I kinda wanna explore tinfoils, like Magoroth actually rage-quitting as scum.
VTL: wylted
A scum Caroler? That would be... interesting. I'd say the odds of that are exceedingly low, just doesn't seem very likely to me.
Role confirmation =/= Affiliation confirmation. But if that's too hard to wrap your brain around why can't he be a scum messenger? Thats the same argument people are using to dismiss my results lol
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:41 PM (post #865)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:39 PM (post #860)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:34 PM (post #846)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:25 PM (post #825)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:
"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target
If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"
Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.
Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:
Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.
I dont understand where the roleblocking thing even came from and got him to vote magic though. That seemed sus as fuck, pretending he caught onto a slip to jump on board with mikal there. Seemed a bit coordinated.
Yeah, there's something odd going on there. I've got to interrogate my thinking on Kohai a bit.
the whole case against me just asks that we all buy the modslip is exactly one that confirms Mikal and Wylted. We don't know that for sure.
Yeah, I just posted about that.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:41 PM (post #864)
Can we pls fucking solve kohai tomorrow.
Magic said he roleblocked wylted. He didnt. I habe results
So either magic was redirected and daddy wylted is a scum tailor
Or magic is lying.
We can stare at the kohai luna thing tomorrow. Please dont drag this dp out. Game is aids and just want to keep it moving
OR
you keep ignoring my case. you did this in game shows mafia
I still don’t know what to type!
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Mod has confirmed wylteds action which also fucking invalidates he was roleblocked lol
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #866)
Thats my point. Hes scum or wylted is a scum caroler
From magics pov scum has go be exactly wykted and I cus we are validating each other and invalidating his result.
...no? Why does Wylted necessarily have to be a Caroler? Because he claimed it and insists that's his role?
I didnt get a message from his teammate. The mod literally said. Should have sent you these. I made a mistake lol
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:43 PM (post #871)
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Mod has confirmed wylteds action which also fucking invalidates he was roleblocked lol
He confirmed a general mistake was made, not that the mistake was made specifically with wylteds action lol
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
I have his results
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #867)
I'm tired, we still haven't seen Rex, and I'm done arguing this tonight. The last thing I'll do is direct everyone's attention to what Mikal keeps calling out as an admission of fuck up (post #709):
Yes. It is true. I made a mod error last night. Like the board around the neck of a convicted criminal in Imperial China, I must trod down the boulevards of Clock Town with this shameful admission open for all to see.
An error. It doesn't say what error. It doesn't say who was affected by it. It doesn't say what corrective measures he took. I have no doubt that Wylted and Mikal are on the same page, which means they're either both scum, or neither of them are. I'd say it's likely the same thing for Mag1c and Luna, though it's less that they're paired and more that the result Kohai received from Luna indicates that Mag1c is town. That could be real. That could be a scum Messenger result. That could be the result of a GF role or something like it.
I'm nervous about Kohai here, but he's not my focus right now. Wylted and Mikal are more concerning to me atm, and I'm favoring lynching one of them over Mag1c and Luna. But we'll see where I'm at tomorrow. Please, don't hammer anyone overnight, at least not before we get a claim from Rex.
Well, the only way Mikal isn't Wylted's teammate is that Wylted claimed to send a carol when his teammate actually sent out a message. At which point I can roleblock Wylted whilte Mikal stil receives the message. That open the door to Kohai being scum. Now with Mikal's behavior I'm thinking it's just more likely him and Wylted, but even there Kohai could be our 3p.
I still don’t know what to type!
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Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #868)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 9:40 PM (post #862)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:36 PM (post #854)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:31 PM (post #841)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 11:27 PM (post #830)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:25 PM (post #825)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:21 PM (post #814)
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #783)
VTL: Mag1cman
Mag1c just slipped. I asked thoth what would happen if a jailkeeper got roleblocked. Thoth confirmed to me that they would be told their action failed.
Why are you lying? I just asked thoth the same thing he said:
"They would be told they were roleblocked and they wouldn't jailkeep their target
If the person roleblocking them was the same person they jailed, both would be RB'd"
Anyone can and should verify this right now with the mod. I got permission to copy paste that.
Yep, I got the same feedback. I don't think that runs contrary to what Kohai said. The full story is straightforward:
Assuming Mag1c is the JK and he'd been RB'd, he would have received a message saying that he'd been RB'd. That's what Kohai said. What Kohai isn't understanding is that it's not a slip to point out that he didn't receive the message.
How is it not a slip? If he didn't get a "your action failed" message, then:
1. Wylted was actually blocked and is lying
2. Got redirected to someone else
Yes, #1 is precisely his point. Where's the scum slip in that argument?
hold on. If Wylted has a teammate who sent Mikal a carol and wylted claimed caroler, it's possible to have both a jailkeep that roleblocks Wylted and for Mikal to recivee a carol, isn't it?
Wylted is still scum either way but worth nothing. Probably still Mikal but Kohai is acting so dumb I kinda wanna explore tinfoils, like Magoroth actually rage-quitting as scum.
VTL: wylted
A scum Caroler? That would be... interesting. I'd say the odds of that are exceedingly low, just doesn't seem very likely to me.
Role confirmation =/= Affiliation confirmation. But if that's too hard to wrap your brain around why can't he be a scum messenger? Thats the same argument people are using to dismiss my results lol
A scum Caroler would literally be giving town affiliation results through their role, or just giving them to their partner for... reasons I guess? There could definitely be a scum Messenger. I'm not dismissing that.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:44 PM (post #875)
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:43 PM (post #871)
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Mod has confirmed wylteds action which also fucking invalidates he was roleblocked lol
He confirmed a general mistake was made, not that the mistake was made specifically with wylteds action lol
True. But this is bastard level angelshooting if wylted and mikal are actually the team
Bro the mistake is after wykted messaged him lol
He literally said my bad I fucked up
"You received a carol. One of these three players is scum"
Like word for word carol. So unless wykted is a scum caroler or a messenger. Then hes town lol. But magic is saying he role blocked him and he didnf so I believe wykted
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/20/2026 at 11:45 PM (post #877)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 8/20/2026 at 11:42 PM (post #867)
I'm tired, we still haven't seen Rex, and I'm done arguing this tonight. The last thing I'll do is direct everyone's attention to what Mikal keeps calling out as an admission of fuck up (post #709):
Yes. It is true. I made a mod error last night. Like the board around the neck of a convicted criminal in Imperial China, I must trod down the boulevards of Clock Town with this shameful admission open for all to see.
An error. It doesn't say what error. It doesn't say who was affected by it. It doesn't say what corrective measures he took. I have no doubt that Wylted and Mikal are on the same page, which means they're either both scum, or neither of them are. I'd say it's likely the same thing for Mag1c and Luna, though it's less that they're paired and more that the result Kohai received from Luna indicates that Mag1c is town. That could be real. That could be a scum Messenger result. That could be the result of a GF role or something like it.
I'm nervous about Kohai here, but he's not my focus right now. Wylted and Mikal are more concerning to me atm, and I'm favoring lynching one of them over Mag1c and Luna. But we'll see where I'm at tomorrow. Please, don't hammer anyone overnight, at least not before we get a claim from Rex.
Well, the only way Mikal isn't Wylted's teammate is that Wylted claimed to send a carol when his teammate actually sent out a message. At which point I can roleblock Wylted whilte Mikal stil receives the message. That open the door to Kohai being scum. Now with Mikal's behavior I'm thinking it's just more likely him and Wylted, but even there Kohai could be our 3p.
Yeah, I think that's possible.
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 11:46 PM (post #882)
Bro the mistake is after wykted messaged him lol
He literally said my bad I fucked up
"You received a carol. One of these three players is scum"
Like word for word carol. So unless wykted is a scum caroler or a messenger. Then hes town lol. But magic is saying he role blocked him and he didnf so I believe wykted
I'll revisit this in the morning, dude. I'm not going to be able to think this through right now.
Like I am ride or die we ith wylted. If he sent me a scum message that thoth forgot to send me or hes a scum caroler ill take the l and chalk it to bastard
Originally Posted by Insomniac on 8/20/2026 at 9:46 PM (post #880)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 8/20/2026 at 11:44 PM (post #875)
Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/20/2026 at 9:43 PM (post #871)
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Mod has confirmed wylteds action which also fucking invalidates he was roleblocked lol
He confirmed a general mistake was made, not that the mistake was made specifically with wylteds action lol
True. But this is bastard level angelshooting if wylted and mikal are actually the team
It was a poor judgement call in either scenario, sure. But if we are wrong, this wouldnt be the first time people have mistaken mod communications for confirmation and acted on them just to be wrong.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Last thought: if Wylted is scum and had been JK'd, he would have been told he'd been RB'd. Little weird for him to then claim to have used a Caroler.
Here now
Bro he literally told me the mistake was the fucking carol
Then said. You revived a fucking carol
So wykted or his teammate is a messenger or a scum caroler or wylted is town and if there is some fuckery like that then its already over
