From mafia - Game Over

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 12:53 PM (post #517)

Does anyone actually townread Magic, every time I read his posts it feels like hes giving off a huge vibe of TMI, like he’s 100% about everything he says

VTL: Mag1cman

Lol ok bud. post is sus af considering I threw a sus at you last DP. Also I'm fully cleared if you've been paying attneniton

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 7:27 PM (post #641)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 6:18 PM (post #640)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 6:33 PM (post #638)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:58 PM (post #632)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 5:56 PM (post #629)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:52 PM (post #626)

I lowkey think there's a framer but I feel like we have to cover for Pie being scum bc game theory

"Cover" meaning?

"we got it covered" that kind of cover.

I’m still not sure what you mean.

think zone coverage then. I'm like a safety covering way downfield, refusing to give up a deep pass.

So you think it's more likely than not that Pie was framed?

I think odds are good, but not certain. My point is that even if Pie's innocent, we may have to lynch him just to be sure. Scum Kohai recruiting Pie even though it looks like suicide to recruit Pie, would be the deep ball that we may have to prevent.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:31 PM (post #642)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 12:53 PM (post #517)

Does anyone actually townread Magic, every time I read his posts it feels like hes giving off a huge vibe of TMI, like he’s 100% about everything he says

VTL: Mag1cman

Lol ok bud. post is sus af considering I threw a sus at you last DP. Also I'm fully cleared if you've been paying attneniton

like you'd have to think Pie recruited me, and lied about watching me to "clear me." Good luck arguing that.

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 7:36 PM (post #645)

lemme catch up before hammering plz

No that's dumb let's just hurry up and win

no nigga. my ass gotta say some things

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #544)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 4:55 PM (post #542)

But mags justification checks out and that would be a bold claim as scum. Also wording

We're scum given fake claims ?

They were given 2 options:

1) 2 fake characters

2) 4 questions to ask about roles and characters

2) is worth noting when it comes to Wylted I guess

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #544)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 4:55 PM (post #542)

But mags justification checks out and that would be a bold claim as scum. Also wording

We're scum given fake claims ?

They were given 2 options:

1) 2 fake characters

2) 4 questions to ask about roles and characters

2) is worth noting when it comes to Wylted I guess

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 5:07 PM (post #538)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 29/08/2026 at 23:06 (post #536)

So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?

Yes

that is a bit crazy to have all that... the justification could work, but it reads like Magoroth pulling a role from his SC2 days

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:46 PM (post #649)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #544)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 4:55 PM (post #542)

But mags justification checks out and that would be a bold claim as scum. Also wording

We're scum given fake claims ?

They were given 2 options:

1) 2 fake characters

2) 4 questions to ask about roles and characters

2) is worth noting when it comes to Wylted I guess

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 5:07 PM (post #538)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 29/08/2026 at 23:06 (post #536)

So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?

Yes

that is a bit crazy to have all that... the justification could work, but it reads like Magoroth pulling a role from his SC2 days

or whatever his old community was

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 7:16 PM (post #544)

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 4:55 PM (post #542)

But mags justification checks out and that would be a bold claim as scum. Also wording

We're scum given fake claims ?

They were given 2 options:

1) 2 fake characters

2) 4 questions to ask about roles and characters

2) is worth noting when it comes to Wylted I guess

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 5:07 PM (post #538)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 29/08/2026 at 23:06 (post #536)

So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?

Yes

that is a bit crazy to have all that... the justification could work, but it reads like Magoroth pulling a role from his SC2 days

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:54 PM (post #550)

A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?

I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.

Honeslt yidk. Lots of good options. If I anticipated Mikal coming in, he's a good option. Pie's a good one to stop him from sussing me, and a good deep ball to try, but risky. Lunatic is fantastic option, but possibly so fantastic it's the most obvious one. Figuring out what your role is could be interesting from scum mag1c pov.

By the way, why does cop indicate no PGO?

bruh lol

sorry i been back clicking forgetting the website saves what i had typed and i didn't notice

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:54 PM (post #550)

A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?

I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.

Honeslt yidk. Lots of good options. If I anticipated Mikal coming in, he's a good option. Pie's a good one to stop him from sussing me, and a good deep ball to try, but risky. Lunatic is fantastic option, but possibly so fantastic it's the most obvious one. Figuring out what your role is could be interesting from scum mag1c pov.

By the way, why does cop indicate no PGO?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:55 PM (post #551)

Mag1c would have been a solid choice except I just know that scum chat would be an insultfest.

lol what?

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 8:59 PM (post #553)

I think its prob pie or luna. Kohai could have just yeeted himself cus pie would shit talk him the entire game

lol idt kohai cares if Pie shit talks him in scum chat

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 8:59 PM (post #553)

I think its prob pie or luna. Kohai could have just yeeted himself cus pie would shit talk him the entire game

lol idt kohai cares if Pie shit talks him in scum chat

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #555)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 7:54 PM (post #550)

A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?

I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.

I would’ve gone Luna/Mag1c based on people townreading them. Mikal cause he was replacement. Thoth cause he hinted at PR. Wylted cause he hinted Dreamer and that wouldn’t have been fun. Probably would’ve avoided Mago cause there was some sus there

the mindgames deepen

Originally Posted by Mikal on 8/29/2026 at 8:59 PM (post #553)

I think its prob pie or luna. Kohai could have just yeeted himself cus pie would shit talk him the entire game

lol idt kohai cares if Pie shit talks him in scum chat

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:10 PM (post #555)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 7:54 PM (post #550)

A question I want everyone to answer. If you were Kohai's scummate, who would you have Yakuzaed and why?

I might change my answer after more rereading, but I probably would have gone either Pie because he is a strong player and his push on me would have made WIFOMable distance, or Magoroth because I think he's a good player and I like him personally. Probably not Lunatic because his defense of me would look like buddying. Not Casey since I would never recruit an inactive without an extremely specific reason, unless I knew someone would sub for them.

I would’ve gone Luna/Mag1c based on people townreading them. Mikal cause he was replacement. Thoth cause he hinted at PR. Wylted cause he hinted Dreamer and that wouldn’t have been fun. Probably would’ve avoided Mago cause there was some sus there

the mindgames deepen

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #558)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #557)

The suggestion of a Tailored Yakuza like in Alien Mafia is interesting. It crossed my mind earlier, but I didn't really consider it because I don't think Banana would subject us to a Tailor. That could change if I knew someone else helped her build this game.

In that scenario though, Kohai would’ve been Town, which theoretically is possible? He claimed a confirmable role, which Mikal is the only one who has. I guess if they wanted to manipulate just like Mikal/WF, then it’s possible

well, Mikal did it last time and he could do it again. It's crossed my mind too

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #558)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #557)

The suggestion of a Tailored Yakuza like in Alien Mafia is interesting. It crossed my mind earlier, but I didn't really consider it because I don't think Banana would subject us to a Tailor. That could change if I knew someone else helped her build this game.

In that scenario though, Kohai would’ve been Town, which theoretically is possible? He claimed a confirmable role, which Mikal is the only one who has. I guess if they wanted to manipulate just like Mikal/WF, then it’s possible

yes this has crossed my mind too

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 7:59 PM (post #659)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #558)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #557)

The suggestion of a Tailored Yakuza like in Alien Mafia is interesting. It crossed my mind earlier, but I didn't really consider it because I don't think Banana would subject us to a Tailor. That could change if I knew someone else helped her build this game.

In that scenario though, Kohai would’ve been Town, which theoretically is possible? He claimed a confirmable role, which Mikal is the only one who has. I guess if they wanted to manipulate just like Mikal/WF, then it’s possible

yes this has crossed my mind too

mikal's done it before and can do it again

Originally Posted by wylted on 8/30/2026 at 1:33 PM (post #620)

Town has a Watcher, Cop, Doctor. That combo is brutal. And scum always have a counter to a Cop. Always, whether it’s GF, Lawyer, or Framer. Common sense is to frame me

The counter is the Yakuza who takes somebody already investigated innocent and flips them. Miller is also ancounter

The Yakuza can only take out 1/3. There’s guaranteed one investigation coming out of NP1 regardless. If you’re the Miller, then scum have to have a GF, Lawyer, or Framer. Basic balancing

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 9:42 PM (post #567)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:37 PM (post #566)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/29/2026 at 8:33 PM (post #565)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/29/2026 at 8:29 PM (post #564)

Yakuza technically is confirmable by using it and flipping lol

But you’re saying if scum had a Tailor, then Kohai was Town right?

I think that goes without saying.

Okay, that means he was telling the truth about having a confirmable role, which explains the NK. Question is which one. If they were Tailoring, wouldn’t they want to take a role from someone who hadn’t soft claimed or anything

true. However, if town doesn't notice then it's a great opportunity

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 2:14 AM (post #579)

Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.

I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.

I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.

VTL: ILikePie5

seems so weird... why claim now and not at the start of the DP?

and if you submit a list, then do you actually visit the players?

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 4:38 PM (post #623)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 9:59 AM (post #607)

Town has a Watcher, Cop, Doctor. That combo is brutal.

Not so brutal when a Yakuza calls any investigative results before it flipped into question, as wylted pointed out in post #620, and can potentially detownify one of them.

But 1/2 results will ALWAYS be accurate. Either mine or yours will 100% be correct. And then Doctor basically pockets an investigative.

And scum always have a counter to a Cop. Always, whether it’s GF, Lawyer, or Framer. Common sense is to frame me

It did cross my mind that you could have been framed, but I was sus of you to begin with, so I see my result as confirming my gutread rather than substituting for it.

Confirmation bias is a hell of a drug

Originally Posted by Thoth on 8/30/2026 at 4:39 PM (post #624)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 9:44 AM (post #603)

I was the obvious frame target lol. Retarded selection on your part. Wryly, I get cause she’s a noob, but you’ve played forever. You never investigate the scummiest person.

Obvious frame target because you were scummy? I don't know what Wryly has to do with this, but I think she has been playing for slightly longer than I have.

Im telling you that I coached Wryly and told her twice that you don’t ever investigate the scummiest player. It was in endgame threads. And she just started playing, so you’ve been playing longer

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 2:40 AM (post #580)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 30/08/2026 at 2:26 (post #546)

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/29/2026 at 4:07 PM (post #538)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 29/08/2026 at 23:06 (post #536)

So how does the voting piece work? If scum hammers you they basically out themselves?

Yes

Whats the name of the role. I don’t think I’ve ever seen it before

I’ll check, but I don’t think I have one unless it’s the TITLE-looking thing above my character’s name, which just says “LEADER"

uh.

sorry to anyone who got pinged more than they wanted lol

how much time do we have left in the DP?

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:59 PM (post #633)

Odds are you're the lynch but lets put our heads together for in case you flip town

Im an open book. I can kick and scream all day that I was framed, but I see the writing on the wall. Just like that Anonymous game. I told whoever executed me to just kill me, cause I’ll be a distraction anyways.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 8/30/2026 at 2:41 AM (post #581)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 30/08/2026 at 8:14 (post #579)

Jokes aside, I think this day phase is now old enough that I can legally flip it on its back and raw-dog it.

I am Dani Acosta, Methodical Cop. Justification is that Dani Acosta is methodical and a cop. I submitted a list of players before the end of day 1. Each night, I cop the highest player on the list, skipping dead players, including anyone who dies that night.

I would rather not post my list to stop scum from interfering on the off chance I survive this day phase, but Pie was my first choice and I got a guilty result on him last night. Any defenses I made of him or suggestions we move to someone else were reaction tests.

VTL: ILikePie5

Nice

Question is do they kill me or do they kill you tonight. Town feels kinda stacked what kinda abilities does scum have? Other than Yakuza which is one-shot

i mean your role seems the fakest tbh. but there's some good reasons to sus Pie, yes.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 8/30/2026 at 8:06 PM (post #669)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 8/30/2026 at 4:59 PM (post #633)

Odds are you're the lynch but lets put our heads together for in case you flip town

Im an open book. I can kick and scream all day that I was framed, but I see the writing on the wall. Just like that Anonymous game. I told whoever executed me to just kill me, cause I’ll be a distraction anyways.

I think for now we just assume there's a yakuza and ask who the OG could be, and who the recruit could be.