Apocalypse Mafia - DP1

Q: Do yall think Vader defends himself harder than this if he’s scum?

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:33 PM (post #300)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #295)

unvote VTL Kohai

Full claim. Tree stump isn’t all that valuable tbh

Lol disregard pretty much everything I said about giving you town credit if vader flips scum LMAO

why? I want info from Kohai. Vader is still my top scum read.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #295)

unvote VTL Kohai

Full claim. Tree stump isn’t all that valuable tbh

Also bro we have an hour and a half left. Yesterday you made a big show out of pretending town was idiotic for letting the day phase end in a no lynch, and now you are going to deter the lynch with an hour and a half left? Not that surprised, but I am hoping others can see the writing on the wall here.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:34 AM (post #301)

Q: Do yall think Vader defends himself harder than this if he’s scum?

If he was town he would be cursing everyone out and saying "fuck you guys", not conceding with excuses about activity and his IRL being busy. Thats always true of vader, dude is always a lower poster over the last few years. But he usually has some choice words for the people on his wagon if hes town. That's like his known town tell.

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:34 PM (post #303)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #295)

unvote VTL Kohai

Full claim. Tree stump isn’t all that valuable tbh

Also bro we have an hour and a half left. Yesterday you made a big show out of pretending town was idiotic for letting the day phase end in a no lynch, and now you are going to deter the lynch with an hour and a half left? Not that surprised, but I am hoping others can see the writing on the wall here.

Trying to get info from Kohai =/= trying to deter a Vader lynch.

Im also seeing more activity rn, so we have time to do it I think

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:36 PM (post #304)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:34 AM (post #301)

Q: Do yall think Vader defends himself harder than this if he’s scum?

If he was town he would be cursing everyone out and saying "fuck you guys", not conceding with excuses about activity and his IRL being busy. Thats always true of vader, dude is always a lower poster over the last few years. But he usually has some choice words for the people on his wagon if hes town. That's like his known town tell.

true.

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:36 AM (post #305)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:34 PM (post #303)

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 10:28 AM (post #295)

unvote VTL Kohai

Full claim. Tree stump isn’t all that valuable tbh

Also bro we have an hour and a half left. Yesterday you made a big show out of pretending town was idiotic for letting the day phase end in a no lynch, and now you are going to deter the lynch with an hour and a half left? Not that surprised, but I am hoping others can see the writing on the wall here.

Trying to get info from Kohai =/= trying to deter a Vader lynch.

Im also seeing more activity rn, so we have time to do it I think

Alright. Doesn't look like kohai is wanting to help out though, and I dont think we have the time and people to add pressure to him.

If kohai goes afk that will be a bit sus. He did the same thing as scum in the last game at EOD when I was pressuring him into a decision about pie.

Tbh I honestly don’t really care. My flip just means Magic is no doubt and my role is a neg utility if targeting an investigative or an acrisp protective and such. I’m also in a new role which means I genuinely don’t have time to consistently come out and curse about why Magic is being a moron like I did when I had free time when I was younger

Originally Posted by Vader on 9/22/2026 at 10:41 AM (post #309)

Tbh I honestly don’t really care. My flip just means Magic is no doubt and my role is a neg utility if targeting an investigative or an acrisp protective and such. I’m also in a new role which means I genuinely don’t have time to consistently come out and curse about why Magic is being a moron like I did when I had free time when I was younger

So magic is your top scum read? If you are town who is his scum partner? Try to help us as much as possible going into future day phases if you are town, any information you can post is helpful.

I’ll give my final reads if I’m hammered so that town that look at my thoughts once flip is read

Pie - even though he is pushing hard I don’t think it necessarily deviates from gameplay. As I pointed out, he’s a gamer and if bullying a player by putting consistent pressure will win game with town, that’s what he will do. It’s not indicative of harmful play at all

Whiteflame - I don’t have a strong read but there isn’t anything inherently fos about him at all. He’s remaining consistent on theme analysis and such which I’ve seen him focus on a lot when he is town so I don’t think anything stands out

Kohai - it’s just a lot of fluff and not too much substance besides a claim. Even if he is a stump I literally see no reason he had to hesitate claiming at all. It makes no sense that he didn’t give detail. I know it’s an holiday but even Whiteflame put more substance than he has

Banana- my read of banana stays the same as it had. Little posts but a lot of volume and didn’t do any bullshit fluff this DP and gave honest thoughts. Haven’t seen that truly from them so don’t know it’s a meta change or what not but it feels townie

Luna - tbh this could bite me in the ass but his behavior and responses to Magic lead me to believe he’s town here. This is back and forth I see him do when he’s hard passionate about town and I think the thought analysis is there for me to justify him being town

Thoth - he kind of just dipped out after claiming information that would be somewhat useful and failed to elaborate on it and then said mod mistake. Besides that, what has he even contributed to the conversation?

I could go either way between Pie or Whiteflame. I know I null’d whiteflame but I haven’t really seen them interact with each other. I also think he was way to quick to jump off Pie’s scum read and then jump to Kohai and then jump to mine. It seems opportunistic as shit and I think he was looking at pie for some brief validation

Magic is my top scum read and I’m not moving off that. Will that get me mislynch? Probably but it will be a good indicator if I flip. His jumping from Kohai, to Luna, and Pie, and me seem unusually form how I see him conduct mafia. He usually is cauclate and has long calculated posts where he describes everything versus short bursts of activity then bickering with someone with multiple responses to it. This is not his typical behavior and feels like trying to hop on a mislynch to force claims out of people.

Thanks for the reads that is helpful

There has also been 0 substance from Kiggins this DP despite them saying they’ve read everything front and back. I get that they were in the ER, but even then with that amount of time passed with nothing truly of substance to note feels like lurking rather than true mafia

Originally Posted by Vader on 9/22/2026 at 10:52 AM (post #315)

There has also been 0 substance from Kiggins this DP despite them saying they’ve read everything front and back. I get that they were in the ER, but even then with that amount of time passed with nothing truly of substance to note feels like lurking rather than true mafia

Kiggans is definitely an issue. Consensus seems to be "let them cook" but they can't continue inactivity like this going forward. We've been burned by inactives too many times in the past.

Totally agree. It’s one thing for inactive, but 4 posts saying you’ve read front to back with no real substance when the DP ends in 21 hours seems like mafia telling them to not posts and let the DP play out and I don’t like it

I’m going to go through some old responses if I am not hammered and respond. I only have like 10 min left of lunch so I’m gonna try my best to catch up

See reads I gave

Official Vote Count

vader (3/5) - Banana, Thoth, lunatic

Kohai (3/5) - Pie, whiteflame, magic

magic (1/5) - vader

Pie (1/5) - Kohai,

Not voting: JenKiggans,

DP1 ends in ~1 hours, at 09/22 14:00 EST

I didn’t see Thoth’s read wall while making reads so hold off on that analysis of him

I did not realize kohai was at l-2. Hmm.

Wagon being stalled between Kohai and Vader? 👀👀

I actually do like Thoth’s reads and analysis. I still have skepticism about the mod having incorrect info since it is such a bold take and thing to say without context but behaviorally I don’t see anything glaring for what I know about Thoth

Vader refusing to vote Kohai is extremely concerning. Town Vader would’ve voted Kohai by now vs sticking to his guns on Mag1c

I would not have a problem lynching Kohai either if that’s the direction we want to go

Unvote

VTL Kohai

VTL Vader

thought he was at L1

We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.

I don’t think that I will get my Magic wish and losing a tree stump to me isn’t the worst thing imaginable