Epstein's Island Mafia DP1

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #238)

Yeah. The problem with AI flavor is that town can easily clear multiple people with just flavor claims and scum need to have very good ways to counter act that and really good fake xlakms.

Not the hugerest concern for scum with an unknown theme split and 2 character questions.

Since when is Popular SOP? That’s Hated

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #242)

Since when is Popular SOP? That’s Hated

I’ve always viewed popular as SOP just to get it out of the way and confirm role.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/6/2026 at 3:36 PM (post #48)

Wait do I have to vote manually

VTL: Thoth

He tried to recruit me into the Islamic State

Naw, I just made you laugh your head off

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:17 PM (post #243)

I’ve always viewed popular as SOP just to get it out of the way and confirm role.

I guess, but the need to confirm Popular early is questionable since Popular scum is a thing.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 9:18 PM (post #245)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:17 PM (post #243)

I’ve always viewed popular as SOP just to get it out of the way and confirm role.

I guess, but the need to confirm Popular early is questionable since Popular scum is a thing.

+ a minute chance of being hit with vanillaizer

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:18 PM (post #246)

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 9:18 PM (post #245)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:17 PM (post #243)

I’ve always viewed popular as SOP just to get it out of the way and confirm role.

I guess, but the need to confirm Popular early is questionable since Popular scum is a thing.

+ a minute chance of being hit with vanillaizer

Because it is vanillaizer bait?

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 10/6/2026 at 3:38 PM (post #51)

Also I had the random thought that we should immediately mass claim roles and shit because scum won’t have the time to make coherent claims, but then I realised it’s a really shitty strategy of winning the game so I’d rather we didn’t do that. Also there’s no guarantee it’ll work

Could work or might not depending on when people are available, especially Savant.

Why do you think scum could not concoct claims fast?

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 4:39 PM (post #81)

They claimed a "Popular" role modifier. This means for them to be eliminated they will require 1 extra vote. This can be proven by voting them to verify they do not get eliminated.

I personally just didn't care. I could see either Town or Wolves having such a modifier and I simply believe their claim given how easily it can be verified. So I accepted it as truth and moved on.

Popular is more commonly Town on here, but we have had Popular Scum.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/6/2026 at 4:49 PM (post #89)

Still, I think it's pretty likely based on the nature of the claim that at least NoAh is likely town. Don't think any scum partner would advise him to out as he has, especially given that they'd likely have to have asked about their characters before claiming.

If he is scum, I want to know what scummate would tell him to reveal his character like that. Unless Copperfield is a scum character ig

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/6/2026 at 4:51 PM (post #94)

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 5:49 PM (post #90)

If that's ok?

You don't need to ask permission. Just do it

It is never okay to VTL me, and I do not grant you permission to ever do so.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/6/2026 at 4:56 PM (post #96)

Shouldn't have to say this, but I'm saying it anyway: careful when you post this final VTL. Refresh the page a couple of times before you post it so that we're not going to just lynch him out of stupidity.

Better yet, declare your intention to do so and then wait a couple minutes.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 9:36 PM (post #251)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/6/2026 at 4:51 PM (post #94)

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 5:49 PM (post #90)

If that's ok?

You don't need to ask permission. Just do it

It is never okay to VTL me, and I do not grant you permission to ever do so.

VTL: Thoth

JK

Unvote

VTL: Shining

VC por favor

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 5:35 PM (post #114)

Standard D1 strategy of insulating potential alignment cops N0 peek.

Essentially if every player posts a peek then if an alignment cop is killed we do not have to guess who they checked. If I am the alignment cop I am then insulated while town is given direct claims post flip. If I am not then any other alignment cop would be protected and able to out claims without fear.

I assume alignment cop is just what we call cop on here. Good strategy and could be applied to other investigative roles.

The biggest draw back to this is that it helps scum narrow down who may be the possible cop.

If you hypo a mafia aligned player they know you aren’t the cop.

another problem is on our site a cop almost always includes a godfather, miller, framer, or lawyer to balance things out.

Cop results are almost never fully reliable around here

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/6/2026 at 6:03 PM (post #121)

Yeah. shining is notorious for being MIA

Even as scum with his scummate pinging him relentlessly?

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #259)

The biggest draw back to this is that it helps scum narrow down who may be the possible cop.

If you hypo a mafia aligned player they know you aren’t the cop.

another problem is on our site a cop almost always includes a godfather, miller, framer, or lawyer to balance things out.

Redirectives too

What is hypo?

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 6:05 PM (post #122)

Im not opposed to doing a policy. This game in particular with a hard timeline town will just loose we can not afford to have that in the late game.

Policy?

Oh you mean lynching inactives for inactivity

Originally Posted by Thoth on 10/7/2026 at 9:43 PM (post #262)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/7/2026 at 8:42 PM (post #259)

The biggest draw back to this is that it helps scum narrow down who may be the possible cop.

If you hypo a mafia aligned player they know you aren’t the cop.

another problem is on our site a cop almost always includes a godfather, miller, framer, or lawyer to balance things out.

Redirectives too

What is hypo?

Hyoothetical. Like “Hypothetically I may be the cop and if I was I’d have investigated X and they were innocent”

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 7:38 PM (post #129)

Budget two days for each DP? With one day for DP4 if needed.

agree

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/6/2026 at 7:40 PM (post #130)

fakable but creative... I buy the derp for now. Weak but looks good early.

Tbf this is a bad look given that Lunatic played in Savant’s last game (Andor)

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/7/2026 at 8:48 PM (post #268)

Didn't know I needed your permission, and I'm pretty sure I don't?

I am a sovereign citizen with diplomatic immunity. I revoke my consent for you to lynch me