Epstein's Island Mafia DP1

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 3:07 PM (post #30)

thank you helz

right now we are in a period called RVS (random voting stage). We are basically just trying to get a feel for folks and randomly vote.

Day 1, as you’ll learn, is mostly a crap shoot as we are working with nearly no information.

As the game progresses we can look back at these earlier stages and look at how people responded to pressure, claims, etc

Important info: Flavor apparently is AI

I clarified this with Savant. Apparently when Helz asked the question if it was AI he thought the question meant artificial intelligent as opposed to indicating if they are town or scum.

Yeah, I figured. Its fine. While I would not have originally signed up I accepted it quickly and moved on. I very much need a distraction in my life at the moment and figured playing through would just be healthy for me.

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 3:44 PM (post #33)

Yeah, I figured. Its fine. While I would not have originally signed up I accepted it quickly and moved on. I very much need a distraction in my life at the moment and figured playing through would just be healthy for me.

Fair

Personally I hate games that have both flavor Ai roles and can full claim. I hate it when games are solved by claims over behavior.

I prefer the MU meta where flavor claiming is outright banned when flavor is ai

I do apologize if I will not be myself this game. Im not right in the head at the moment.

But given we are in a situation where flavor is AI forcing a lie from scum players could help lead us to a good elimination. I do fear anti-claim mechanics existing but I kinda rolled a dice and said fuck it. In this game format if nothing else I can use it to break RVS depending on peoples engagement with the subject.

Originally Posted by Helz on 10/6/2026 at 3:58 PM (post #35)

I do apologize if I will not be myself this game. Im not right in the head at the moment

❤️ totally know the feeling.

So far my only read so far is very soft town lean on NoAhLeEcLaRk. Rex is lock town.

I liked that they dropped their flavor right off the bat. There is a question of if they even considered if it could be AI or not although I would have expected that to be an immediate subject of conversation in a wolf chat.

I also got good feels from them flatly voicing they were sheeping. They had a door open to take a tiny bit of town cred and shoved it away which reads as flat transparency to me. WIFOM could be argued but given its their very first game and may not have even understood what I was poking at but I am more inclined to just feel good about that stance.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 06/10/2026 at 19:44 (post #4)

hey all. Excited for this one.

SOP claim popular

Justificarion I’m Bill Clinton who remained high approval ratings even after the Monica scandal

but wtf does Monica Scandal have to do with Epstein?

I guess my justification has nothing to do with Epstein either

Originally Posted by Kohai on 06/10/2026 at 19:57 (post #8)

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/6/2026 at 1:43 PM (post #2)

How does the night phase works? What prevents the mafia from stalling out the night phase to use up some of our seven days?

Kinda wanna town lean you for this.

why

Vote Count

Kohai (1/5): Kohai

Shinning (1/5): Helz

Mine kinda does. I guess I was accused in the scandal as a powerful person that was around it. Being a General followed by leading the country for a bit was mentioned.

What is the name of your flavor if I may ask?

Originally Posted by Helz on 06/10/2026 at 22:16 (post #42)

Mine kinda does. I guess I was accused in the scandal as a powerful person that was around it. Being a General followed by leading the country for a bit was mentioned.

What is the name of your flavor if I may ask?

I’m Michael Jackson

Claims

Helz - Ehud Barak

Kohai - Bill Clinton - Popular

Lunatic

Mag1cman

Magoroth - Michael Jackson

NoAhLeEcLaRk - David Cooperfield

Shining

whiteflame

Thoth

The entire idea is to get the game going.

People randomly vote and shift them around until real reasoning is created behind the votes. Me voting someone with a joke statement can lead to others voting them or me and patterns start to form. Then people start seeing things they feel could be a motive for a scum and such and real issues come up.

Im a big fan of also using mech to break RVS which is why I lead off leaning into the flavor thing.

As town you want the game to get away from 'nobody has any thoughts about anyone' so real analysis and 'trains' (or pushes to lynch/eliminate someone) can form.

Scum has the advantage early on and this helps remove that advantage. Its typically a good play to end up with 2 trains at the end of every day so they can be compared later as we look back and have 'flips' or reveals of someones alignment by the host after they die.

Basically we have to throw shit at the wall and see where it sticks... you latch on to whatever seems scummy even if it’s a stretch just to get the game going

Wait do I have to vote manually

VTL: Thoth

He tried to recruit me into the Islamic State

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 06/10/2026 at 22:25 (post #45)

So when does the RVS actually take place, I have no suspicion of anyone as of now.

If you don’t mind me asking, have you played Mafia before?

Interesting. Also interesting that he has not popped into chat if he has submitted N0 actions.

Any details on what that would do? It could also open doors for a cult to exist although I was told the game is not bastard and many consider alignment changing mechanics as bastard.

Also I had the random thought that we should immediately mass claim roles and shit because scum won’t have the time to make coherent claims, but then I realised it’s a really shitty strategy of winning the game so I’d rather we didn’t do that. Also there’s no guarantee it’ll work

Originally Posted by Helz on 06/10/2026 at 22:38 (post #50)

Interesting. Also interesting that he has not popped into chat if he has submitted N0 actions.

Any details on what that would do? It could also open doors for a cult to exist although I was told the game is not bastard and many consider alignment changing mechanics as bastard.

Oh I was just shitposting

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 06/10/2026 at 22:40 (post #53)

No I haven't, this will be my first game so I can learn.

Have you played Werewolf or any variants or IRL Mafia? Or is this your first Mafia game in general

Im generally against early role claims. Revealing a protective or a Vigilante could be damaging for the town placing them in a position to lie the same as a Scum would.

Unless there is anti-claim function the flavor is a decent focus though. I dislike it as a mechanic but I will probably lack my usual aggression this game.

Same thing with a different name. I think Mag is trying to put a peg on your experience level to get a vibe of how to read you. Someone who has played only a game or two has to be treated very differently than someone who has played thousands.

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 06/10/2026 at 22:44 (post #56)

Is that a bad thing, since I haven't played mafia before

No, it’s the same game

Originally Posted by Kohai on 06/10/2026 at 21:11 (post #31)

Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/6/2026 at 3:07 PM (post #30)

thank you helz

right now we are in a period called RVS (random voting stage). We are basically just trying to get a feel for folks and randomly vote.

Day 1, as you’ll learn, is mostly a crap shoot as we are working with nearly no information.

As the game progresses we can look back at these earlier stages and look at how people responded to pressure, claims, etc

idk why but I scumread this post

VTL: Kohai