Alright… so I was Vanillaized and scum have a living town player’s PM to work with for their fake claims. Love that.
I am blackmailed.
I still don’t know what to type!
VTL Helz
I still don’t know what to type!
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Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 7:43 AM (post #2)
Alright… so I was Vanillaized and scum have a living town player’s PM to work with for their fake claims. Love that.
Use VTL:
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 10/9/2026 at 8:28 AM (post #4)
VTL Helz
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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
VTL: Helz
I still don’t know what to type!
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Not Voting (6): Helz, Kohai, Lunatic, NoAhLeEcLaRk, whiteflame, Thoth
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Going to be an extremely busy weekend fyi
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Helz / Lunatic team?
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
VTL: Helz
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 8:50 AM (post #15)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:49 AM (post #13)
VTL: Helz
Going to need some explanation for this. Do you have pertinent information or are you just following Mag1c's lead?
I’ll explaij when I get home and nit mobile oostijg
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Also, I'm willing to full claim if desired, especially given that I don't have my role anymore. The value in keeping it to myself at this point is just in the potential for a CC, which isn't nothing, so I'll hold off for now.
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:51 AM (post #16)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 8:50 AM (post #15)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:49 AM (post #13)
VTL: Helz
Going to need some explanation for this. Do you have pertinent information or are you just following Mag1c's lead?
I’ll explaij when I get home and nit mobile oostijg
Alright then.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 8:52 AM (post #18)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:51 AM (post #16)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 8:50 AM (post #15)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 10/9/2026 at 8:49 AM (post #13)
VTL: Helz
Going to need some explanation for this. Do you have pertinent information or are you just following Mag1c's lead?
I’ll explaij when I get home and nit mobile oostijg
Alright then.
Nut shell is this is POE. I have decent reasons to have town reads on the others.
With mag dead i strongly dislike that Helz was pressuring him for a character claim.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
What does being blackmailed mean? Can't say a certain word?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 5:43 AM (post #2)
Alright… so I was Vanillaized and scum have a living town player’s PM to work with for their fake claims. Love that.
You were vanillaized? Damn.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 6:51 AM (post #17)
Also, I'm willing to full claim if desired, especially given that I don't have my role anymore. The value in keeping it to myself at this point is just in the potential for a CC, which isn't nothing, so I'll hold off for now.
Yeah probably hold onto it for now, I personally believe you being vannilized, that's a wierd thing to make up.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/9/2026 at 9:40 AM (post #20)
What does being blackmailed mean? Can't say a certain word?
That's usually what it means. Last time I recall seeing this played was in Magoroth's Amber game where Bullish (he was Oberon) was Blackmailed. Got himself modkilled by... I believe it was Casey at the time, though they swapped in for Thoth at some point.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/endgames/posts/5o/amber-endgame
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/iso?userids=69f0e3b9dee4aca7a84cf6c9&postids=69f791e90b2f89d5f87f662a
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/9/2026 at 9:44 AM (post #22)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 5:43 AM (post #2)
Alright… so I was Vanillaized and scum have a living town player’s PM to work with for their fake claims. Love that.
You were vanillaized? Damn.
Yeah probably hold onto it for now, I personally believe you being vannilized, that's a wierd thing to make up.
That's the plan. And yeah, people can feel free to read into it if they want, but fake claiming a Vanillaizer would certainly be a choice given that any scum flip that doesn't contain a Vanillaizer would instantly implicate me.
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 10/9/2026 at 7:49 AM (post #24)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 10/9/2026 at 9:40 AM (post #20)
What does being blackmailed mean? Can't say a certain word?
That's usually what it means. Last time I recall seeing this played was in Magoroth's Amber game where Bullish (he was Oberon) was Blackmailed. Got himself modkilled by... I believe it was Casey at the time, though they swapped in for Thoth at some point.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/endgames/posts/5o/amber-endgame
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/iso?userids=69f0e3b9dee4aca7a84cf6c9&postids=69f791e90b2f89d5f87f662a
I have created roles similar to this before, though I don't remember what I've named them. Hmm, interesting.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 9:37 AM (post #27)
I still have suspicion of Lunati
Can you explain why?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by NoAhLeEcLaRk on 10/9/2026 at 11:37 AM (post #27)
I still have suspicion of Lunati
As do I
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein