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for speaking of the matter of which we speaketh not: characters

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 12:15 PM (post #60)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/3/2026 at 10:16 AM (post #49)

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

Meh. Idk how I feel about this pressure-people-based-on-history stuff.

You got a better idea to move the game? Who do you want to pressure and why

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Not Voting (6): Magoroth, whiteflame, wylted, Thoth, Helz, Banana

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Once wylted gets back on he will quickly get on Thoth's wagon, which will put him at L-2.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 12:23 PM (post #64)

Once wylted gets back on he will quickly get on Thoth's wagon, which will put him at L-2.

Exactly, just verbally say you’re fine with it, and we can move on

Worst case we have the miller

Although, with no fake roles, it’s likely hes town. Hmmm

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #43)

Actually I just read my role PM and I have to SOP claim - I'm the miller.

Not sure why you'd wait this long to read your own role PM, but I buy it.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/3/2026 at 10:16 AM (post #49)

Let’s get Thoth’s role claim

I'm not opposed to this, especially given we don't really have any other direction atm. I do, however, agree with Rex that we're unlikely to get a response for a while. I'm good with just saying he should role claim when he gets on.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/3/2026 at 1:35 PM (post #68)

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #43)

Actually I just read my role PM and I have to SOP claim - I'm the miller.

Not sure why you'd wait this long to read your own role PM, but I buy it.

Don't have discord on my phone because it's run by satanic retards, so sometimes I just roll with it and start posting in the DP until I have time to get to my dedicated shitposting laptop.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 1:47 PM (post #72)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/3/2026 at 1:35 PM (post #68)

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 9:15 AM (post #43)

Actually I just read my role PM and I have to SOP claim - I'm the miller.

Not sure why you'd wait this long to read your own role PM, but I buy it.

Don't have discord on my phone because it's run by satanic retards, so sometimes I just roll with it and start posting in the DP until I have time to get to my dedicated shitposting laptop.

Fair enough.

The far-right male yearns to be dominated, and confuses these impulses for political views. Pay someone to dress like a king and bottom for him, that will solve all this without getting you confused about which systems of government are better for the people.

This game is progressing more slowly than I anticipated. I'm good with getting a role claim from anyone atp I guess. Also good with just using an RNG to pick someone to push.

Every DP1 I seem to forget that DP1s are ass.

My town pile is Rex only rn. I've never seen scum claim Miller. Only way I can imagine they would is if they received no anti-Cop abilities, inferred there's no Cop in the game from that, and decided it was worth the risk to claim Miller.

I was gonna say Thoth gets a few points for suggesting the mass role claim because scum would be unlikely to want that, but on second thought, it was unlikely to ever get off the ground. Inconclusive, inconclusive.

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VTL: wylted

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Originally Posted by wylted on 11/3/2026 at 6:12 PM (post #79)

Pay someone to dress like a king and bottom for him, that will solve all this without getting you confused about which systems of government are better for the people.

I'll give it a shot but you owe me $20 if it doesn't work

Bet.

scum have definitely claimed miller. if it works they know they get a pass for most of the game.

Seems very risky. There's usually a Cop in the game and thus often a Miller already.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/2/2026 at 4:18 PM (post #28)

Pros and cons of a mass role claim.

Pros:

We can finally say we did it, and if it blows up in our face spectacularly we can always point back to Jim Carrie mafia as a cautionary tale.

Like people on this site learn from previous games.

Right away we'll be able to eliminate the PRs from the POE.

And put them in Mafia's sights. Notwithstanding that scum can claim PR. This is probably just putting the same weight on the other side of the balance.

Late claimers or resistors could narrow down the POE still further; weak or shady role claims could narrow down the POE still further.

Tbf I think my justification is shitty

After we tighten the POE as much as reasonably possible, we could demand character claims from those in it, this DP -- so they basically have to think of an entire fake claim, role and character, right out the gate, which is a scum nightmare. They'd have to make their invented role at least sorta kinda fit with their character, and they still wouldn't know which characters of the four are safe, so decent chance to trap them in a CC.

This is why I think this game is uniquely suited to a mass role claim. If we are ever going to do it, might as well do it here.

We could potentially get a correct lynch DP1.

Possible anyway

Cons:

It's crazy.

This is a pro

Everyone has to agree to it.

If enough people agree, the others can be coerced into agreement.

Ideally everyone should claim at the same time, which is difficult to pull off. It's easy to just stall and plead irl stuff.

Maybe the right approach is to let the day phase continue naturally so we can decide who is sussest, possibly with a claim or two, and then have people claim in order of susness. This ranking could be decided by vote or by appointing the towniest member to decide.

We give away our roles to scum and basically forfeit the night game. Our PRs would be dead quickly and our mech game would be crippled by the transparency we will have brought on ourselves.

I don't think this is as much of a disadvantage as you might believe, especially since it makes friendly fire less likely.

Whoever is last to claim will have great advantage if they happen to be scum.

Fair, which is why I think a mass role claim should not be immediate. Although if it happened now, it would not be immediate with respect to start-of-day.

We could easily still mislynch despite a mass role claim and then we just dropped our trousers for nothing.

When I was a kid, I thought that the phrase, 'caught with your pants down', referred to urinating

Lunatic will have a "smh" attitude with us at endgame and that will just be the worst.

This is true regardless of whether it works or not tho

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/2/2026 at 10:34 PM (post #38)

You compassionate hand wringers are really cramping my anarchist zest here. It's a perfectly kosher play, it's not like we're breaking his game. It will probably be disastrous anyway.

If it succeeds, hosts will have to design their games to make it at least much harder to do again. I presume that scum receiving fake-claims started because forcing claims out of people proved too effective. For all I know, that might predate DDO/DART/DC and have been imported from another community.

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/2/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #17)

Love that anticlaim mechanic.

Casey had a similar one in Deltarune Mafia.

Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/3/2026 at 5:04 AM (post #39)

Mass claim sounds interesting. I’d be down perhaps tomorrow, I don’t want Luna’s game to end instantly on D1.

CAGED SCUM ALERT

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 7:31 AM (post #42)

There could be hidden role elements as well - scum could have a role that requires them to guess the targets role, for example.

This is such blatant TMI that it's ridiculous

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/3/2026 at 12:47 PM (post #72)

Don't have discord on my phone because it's run by satanic retards

What?

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/3/2026 at 5:12 PM (post #80)

scum have definitely claimed miller. if it works they know they get a pass for most of the game.

This is litrully a tautology. If a scum play does not work, they do not get a pass and do not collect $200. Or $20.

Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/3/2026 at 4:44 PM (post #75)

The far-right male yearns to be dominated, and confuses these impulses for political views.

I bet there is a thriving subgenre of, "Woman with a Bluesky account falls in love with neo-Nazi male", in certain online spaces, and it is exclusively popular with the former