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Main Host: Lunatic
Living Players: Magoroth, wylted, RexFavilla, Helz, Banana
Base Elimination Threshold: 3
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ISO #211 •••
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Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that

i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday

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ISO #212 •••
--> @Magoroth


Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 12:27 PM (post #201)
So yeah I think banana wylted is simplest and if its either rex or helz GG what can I say, please hammer so whoever is Town in the ppl voting me can look really stupud, hopefully wylted

You are discounting both me and Rex as potentials now? I get Rex coulda hammered you but I should be at least a question in your head.

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ISO #213 •••
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ISO #214 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 12:59 PM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that

Please make a case with reasoning and stop repeating that you have this stance and people should stop talking and follow your position. Its so obvious yet you seem incapable of explaining your takes as you just repeat you are totally certain.


If its so obvious why not break it down Barny style for us retards in the game?

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ISO #215 •••
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ISO #216 •••
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ISO #217 •••
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ISO #218 •••

So another productive line to dive into more- Mech


The claims. We have not really unpacked how the pieces fit.


Confirmed-

Doctor, Roleblocker, Bus Driver, Alignment Cop


Claimed-

Soldier, Watcher, Citizen, Veteran, Miller


BD is super powerful. Doc counters the kill while RB counters the non-kill. Alignment cop checks out. But thats pretty strong. So for each one individually-


Citizen- Out of place for every other person having a PR or modifier but neutral for balance.

Soldier- Hard buff to town but with the specific requirement to be the last one alive

Miller- Hard nerf to town countering the Alignment cop, slightly makes room for Watcher

Veteran- Swingy. Potentially super damaging or powerful but hard skill based role



Watcher- Hard buff to town in an already powerful town. I feel its unlikely given it basically makes a 9p game have a 22% chance every single night to nail scum. The alignment cop gets a guilty or the watcher sees the kill. Thats fucking massive and I would like people to really think about that. Scum could at best win D3. That means a minimum of 2 nights with a mech guilty + a potential kill block forcing a D4 and a chance of getting killed on their targeting.


By mech these pieces do not fit. Watcher as a claim does not make sense in this game with what we know to exist. Just Watcher + Doctor + Alignment cop itself is insane in such a small game before considering other roles and even including potential town nerfs like the miller/BD. And the BD itself is insanely powerful late game.


I hope you can all read these words and understand why by mech I feel Wylted is simply scum before I even talk about their wild play.

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ISO #219 •••
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ISO #220 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 1:13 PM (post #217)
If its so obvious why not break it down Barny style for us retards in the game?

I think I already made my points. if you want I can have chat GPT read the thread and condess them into a single post

Do you really think I have not read every single one of your posts multiple times at this point?


No thank you, I do not want to play with a clanker. I would actually like to see a hard rule that AI is not allowed in mafia games personally but thats because I enjoy playing with people.


I am going to say that you have very poorly made your position and you can keep screaming that you are right or you can actually argue your position. I think you do not want to argue your position because you know it could reveal you. It would just be a really easy win if everyone shut their brain off and voted your way. But you are not making a case. I am digging into mech and going through players calling things out. You are just saying "I am right, stop talking and do my thing" which I feel is an intention indicator. Feel free to explain yourself but no- I absolutely do not want to have any AI in my human behavioral analysis game in any way.

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ISO #221 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 1:19 PM (post #219)
I'm a tracker genius

Pretty sure you claimed watcher. Let me check.

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ISO #222 •••
--> @Banana


Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #211)

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that
i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday


Pretty sure I hopped on her wagon when there was only 1 other person, someone else put her at L -1, and then Wylted hammered.

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"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."

T. S. Eliot

ISO #223 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 11/9/2026 at 12:38 PM (post #17)
I am watcher and the character is the truman show because truman figured out he was in a fake reality by tracking the cars going around the neighborhood.

I popcorn to helz since pie suspected him.


how do I know this. I tracked pie to Helz in np2

np1 I tracked was blocked by whiteflame but tried to track rex

Yeah. The exact post

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ISO #224 •••

Functionally while the same thing it kinda looks like you can not keep the name of your role straight.

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ISO #225 •••
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ISO #226 •••
--> @RexFavilla


Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 12:25 PM (post #222)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #211)

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that
i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday

Pretty sure I hopped on her wagon when there was only 1 other person, someone else put her at L -1, and then Wylted hammered.

Helz was first, mago second, you third, Wylted the hammer was fourth

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ISO #227 •••

Automated Vote Count

This system-generated vote count was posted on behalf of the main host.


Magoroth (2/3): wylted (p#19), Banana (p#115)

wylted (1/3): Magoroth (p#142)


Not Voting (2): RexFavilla, Helz


With 5 players alive, the base elimination threshold is 3. Configured role modifiers may change vote power or an individual player's threshold. Day phase ends in 2 days.
Day phase ends: (your local time).

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #228 •••
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Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 12:27 PM (post #224)
Functionally while the same thing it kinda looks like you can not keep the name of your role straight.

why does he not just a fake a guilty or implicating result in lylo if he’s lying?

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ISO #229 •••
--> @Banana


Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 2:28 PM (post #226)

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 12:25 PM (post #222)

Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #211)

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that
i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday

Pretty sure I hopped on her wagon when there was only 1 other person, someone else put her at L -1, and then Wylted hammered.
Helz was first, mago second, you third, Wylted the hammer was fourth


I just checked, I didn't realize Mago hadn't voted as those posts weren't loaded when I put my vote down. Was looking to pressure him for a read on her. Damn now I feel even worse about Wylted's retard hammer.

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"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."

T. S. Eliot

ISO #230 •••

wylted reads more as town with the result because it seems like he disregarded the result at first and didn’t really make anything of it until he realized the implication of what it meant that pie visited someone who should not have been visited based on their role. argument about how PGO should work aside, it shows a natural realization process with the result not an oppertunity based one and it wasn’t his main reason for voting anyone. If it was it would be him insta lynching Helz not mago. to me this is what makes Wylted look pretty more likely town even from before I voted with him

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ISO #231 •••
--> @Banana


Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 1:29 PM (post #228)

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 12:27 PM (post #224)
Functionally while the same thing it kinda looks like you can not keep the name of your role straight.
why does he not just a fake a guilty or implicating result in lylo if he’s lying?

Yeah, its a good question. They piled on to the FOS you made that Pie suspected me but they could have hard claimed they saw me kill or something. Would have made a hard 1v1 which is more difficult to deal with as scum than a FOS indicator throwing shade but it is an option they could have gone with.


It is interesting they said the wrong name for their role though. Thats a weird thing to screw up. Tracker / Watcher / Detective / Lookout / Scout / Stalker are all names for the function. But it is of note they screwed up what their role is just now which is certainly more in line for someone making a fake claim.

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ISO #235 •••
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Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 2:39 PM (post #232)
Damn now I feel even worse about Wylted's retard hammer.

it's only a retard hammer if town loses. hammer mago so we can take the first step in avoiding that.

you are also claiming I am a retard and not scum for it so it tells me you town read me. I am sick of helz shit just hammer


I don't think it's a good move as scum either, unless you knew she was a doc. Which is honestly what I'm entertaining because I don't think you're dumb enough to do something like that.

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"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."

T. S. Eliot

ISO #236 •••

I would imagine most scum would not want to 1v1 me in a Lylo. But also if I were to fake claim as scum with a result I would not be the one to go for. Claiming a dead player visiting me is much safer than claiming I visited someone given they did not know I could visit.


Its also of note their only result is on a dead player. They do not have a single result this game anyone can confirm and say "Yes, they saw me visiting this person and I did that" to confirm their role. They have a dead player role blocking them then a dead player they saw move? The odds of that itself is low which is scummy in itself.


Every player that could substantiate their night actions is dead and again- We should consider the balance of just a Doctor + Alignment cop + Tracker. That itself is a lot before even considering that Wryly seems to have trouble remembering the name of their role.

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ISO #239 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 1:41 PM (post #233)
helz, watcher and tracker is two different roles. track follows somebody to see who they visit. watcher watches somebody to see who visited them.

yes I mixed up the names because I closely associate them but it doesn't have the same function

No. Depending on the site all the roles I mentioned have different functions. I have played games where a watcher sees who visited and games where they see who that person visited. Tracker I think I have only seen follow who a person visited. Detective / Stalker / Scout I have all seen go both ways. Lookout has always exclusively seen who visits someone.


Not that any of that matters but I am more critical that you are in this post voicing that Watcher does not do what Tracker does and you called yourself the wrong role. So you claimed something that does something different than what you did in your head- that is not a mistake I expect someone to have. If you personally believe a Watcher is not a tracker and they do different things why on earth did you claim tracker? It looks like you just slipped.

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ISO #240 •••
--> @wylted


Originally Posted by wylted on 10/11/2026 at 20:41 (post #233)
helz, watcher and tracker is two different roles. track follows somebody to see who they visit. watcher watches somebody to see who visited them.

yes I mixed up the names because I closely associate them but it doesn't have the same function

I dunno why anyone even plays with you. It’s just insults upon insults and then acting condescending because you’re so incredibly insecure. This point you keep harping on as a great victory isn't even as wild as you make it out to be, just a shitty role that anyone could have. You see me telling people to suck my dick because I correctly scumread Thoth from one post or called out Rex as scum literally in my first post last game? Anyone telling people they are smart over and over is obviously not that smart.


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