Jim Carrey Mafia Endgame

Holy shit dude, how do you sell this bad

Wow, Mago/Wylted team is bussing AND THE LYNCH DOESNT GO THROUGH ON MAGO

What are you even on dude

Wow and I thought I was retarded

>:-(

Well... this went poorly.

Yeah, I'd like to understand what you were thinking not using your role.

Game was literally solved. There was no other plausible team besides Helz/Mago and Wylted/Wryly.

Helz had an atrocious role claim with PGO that he didn’t even claim was X-shot initially, much less SOP claim.

Mago literally claimed Bulletproof and then switched to Soldier on LYLO, which also makes zero sense.

Banana is the sole Vanilla, and every Luna game has had Vanillas.

Forget Wylted. All you had to realize was that Banana was TOWN. She bled town DP3.

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/11/2026 at 11:32 AM (post #8)

Yeah, I'd like to understand what you were thinking not using your role

He probably didn’t even read it

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 12:32 PM (post #10)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/11/2026 at 11:32 AM (post #8)

Yeah, I'd like to understand what you were thinking not using your role

He probably didn’t even read it

SMH

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 12:32 PM (post #9)

Game was literally solved. There was no other plausible team besides Helz/Mago and Wylted/Wryly.

Helz had an atrocious role claim with PGO that he didn’t even claim was X-shot initially, much less SOP claim.

Mago literally claimed Bulletproof and then switched to Soldier on LYLO, which also makes zero sense.

Banana is the sole Vanilla, and every Luna game has had Vanillas.

Forget Wylted. All you had to realize was that Banana was TOWN. She bled town DP3.

Pretty much all of this. Back tracking claim in LyLo is never a town sign and the PGO claim was literally a scum claim

These clowns only won cause they NKed the 2 best townies, who know role and character analysis

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 12:35 PM (post #13)

These clowns only won cause they NKed the 2 best townies, who know role and character analysis

Which TBF should have been a big red flag.

Wylted hammering Wryly is NOT AFFILIATION INDICATIVE. He literally did it as town without even getting a role from scum.

Good lord

My understanding of my role was that I could tell you before the hammer falls to steal the DP and the DP would end in a no-lynch. I don't see how that could win us the game as I couldn't use it after they hammered, and so out them them after they vote, and if I used it before we would simply no lynch, it was 2:3, all our protectives were dead, they would kill one of us, and then we would be at parity and they would win. I was planning on possibly using it DP2 for role confirmation but Wylted decided to randomly lynch our doctor for no fucking reason.

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with me for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

That was probably one of the toughest games I have played.

Funny bits- Thoths initial plan of mass claim would have utterly destroyed the mafia. The flavor claim was tough to deal with and the Anti-claim was not that useful. Then the town was super packed with TPR to where other claims would hardly fit. And I do not know the sites meta which almost fucked me pretty good

(Really not happy about that still) I may start avoiding games that are not semi-open with listed possible roles. No offence but the meta of this site is very different than the rest of the world and a substantial amount of people seem to have only played here. The fact players think a PGO is always compulsive made me laugh. Its super rarely compulsive outside of this place. Kinda gives this weird 'homefield' advantage when newer players can not possibly know about obscure site meta without digging.

Wylted was right although really I feel like their D3 behavior and that D2 hammer crippled their chances. If they had argued their case differently I think we would have lost. And to be fair while we played ok, I was seriously trying D3 and really irritated about the site meta on roles, we also got super lucky. Detective + Sheriff + Doc + Bus Driver was gnarly. We got lucky on the mech side of things and still almost lost.

I feel like town played very well outside of not running a counter train until LYLO and slamming D2 super fast. Created a D3 where 2 people had hardly even given reads.

Gona throw this out there for giggles. This is what we were looking at to figure just flavor claims.

There is an updated version but ehh, I am lazy and it does not matter. Point being I was paranoid enough about the claims to crawl through every fucking Jim Carrey movie and figure out what would be viable to claim with. Figured that may amuse some people.

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/11/2026 at 11:38 AM (post #16)

My understanding of my role was that I could tell you before the hammer falls to steal the DP and the DP would end in a no-lynch. I don't see how that could win us the game as I couldn't use it after they hammered, and so out them them after they vote, and if I used it before we would simply no lynch, it was 2:3, all our protectives were dead, they would kill one of us, and then we would be at parity and they would win. I was planning on possibly using in DP2 for role confirmation but Wylted decided to randomly lynch our doctor for no fucking reason.

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

Yeah, My take was that I was pretty much town read by everyone by my behavior yet my claim was so out of line with the site meta I was a huge problem. Honestly if everyone did not look so bad this game I woulda died instantly for that.

But I would beg people to consider this when hosting- That really fucking sucks. Its a homefield advantage to the people who only play here and nobody joining the site will know whats normal. It makes a situation where you can just loose for something that has nothing to do with how well you play. And whats the solution? Crawl through 50 past games to get a feel of the experience long term players had?

If this site is gona grow I would highly encourage breaking the meta and/or using more semi-open formats disclosing potential roles. The fact every time I need to fake claim I do not even know what names you guys use and I know that can get me killed is just uncomfortable and not fun.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 11:43 AM (post #18)

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Oh, I really did have a monster post. I was not joking. I basically did full ISO's on every living players with breakdowns of analysis and interactions between them. I just saw Wylted at L1 and shrugged. Figured I would read the DP before hammering to be fair but I 1000% really was working my ass off yesterday building an over complicated breakdown of every player and association potentials.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 12:43 PM (post #18)

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Towards the end I was coming around on her (I was actually in the middle of doing an ISO in her in the wee hours of the morning), but Wylted voting me after he had just spent 24 hours screaming about how it had to be Helz/Magoroth made me think he had to be scum. I was kind of extremely tired and irritated and wasn't really thinking about pairings at the time, but in my head I was thinking it had to be Wylted/Mago, just because Wylted can pull off a believable bus, and Mago weirdly, clingily defending the awful claim by Helz made no sense for a scum pair that were trying to bus. I didn't understand why Wylted would be so angry about other people posting - just go awol. He was adding nothing to the thread as it was. If the authentic reason for his anger is that he knew it was Mago/Helz voting me would be the absolute last thing he should do.

Btw- Did everyone really not see WF's Post #2 as a soft PR claim? I pegged that shit the first second I read it and felt it was super obvious. Was another bit I struggled to understand how everyone else did not see it coming from a PR perspective. Even post flip.

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/11/2026 at 11:51 AM (post #20)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 11:43 AM (post #18)

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Oh, I really did have a monster post. I was not joking. I basically did full ISO's on every living players with breakdowns of analysis and interactions between them. I just saw Wylted at L1 and shrugged. Figured I would read the DP before hammering to be fair but I 1000% really was working my ass off yesterday building an over complicated breakdown of every player and association potentials.

I mean it would’ve just rehashed everything you had already said. It doesn’t do much against pure mechanics. Wylted/Mago was never a team here. Period. Then it’s just analyzed which of Mago/Helz and Wryly/Wylted is the scum team. For the former, both are scummy. For the latter, one is extremely scummy, and the other is extremely townie. The townie was scum last game that I was in, and it’s night and day. Therefore, they are town by behavior and role cause Luna always includes Vanillas. Hence Mago/Helz are scum. Pretty easy

Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/11/2026 at 11:52 AM (post #21)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 12:43 PM (post #18)

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Towards the end I was coming around on her (I was actually in the middle of doing an ISO in her in the wee hours of the morning), but Wylted voting me after he had just spent 24 hours screaming about how it had to be Helz/Magoroth made me think he had to be scum. I was kind of extremely tired and irritated and wasn't really thinking about pairings at the time, but in my head I was thinking it had to be Wylted/Mago, just because Wylted can pull off a believable bus, and Mago weirdly, clingily defending the awful claim by Helz made no sense for a scum pair that were trying to bus. I didn't understand why Wylted would be so angry about other people posting - just go awol. He was adding nothing to the thread as it was. If the authentic reason for his anger is that he knew it was Mago/Helz voting me would be the absolute last thing he should do.

You know Wylted though. He’s not a logical player at all. There really wasn’t much else to do there besides vote. Like Helz was saying the same shit over and over and over. Mago was AWOL basically.

But again, Mago/Wylted is never a team. Period

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/11/2026 at 11:57 AM (post #24)

the authentic reason for his anger is that he knew it was Mago/Helz voting me would be the absolute last thing he should do.

you literally said you were about to vote me despite confirmed scum in mago, so what's my options if I am about to be at L1 and know helz is scum? I have to hope to God I am wrong and you are scum and just vote you

Completely Agree, but you need to be less trigger happy. People are slow.

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/11/2026 at 12:55 PM (post #22)

Btw- Did everyone really not see WF's Post #2 as a soft PR claim? I pegged that shit the first second I read it and felt it was super obvious. Was another bit I struggled to understand how everyone else did not see it coming from a PR perspective. Even post flip.

The whole statement that my role wasn't tied neatly to my character indicated that I had a role, I meant to convey that much.

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 11:55 AM (post #23)

Originally Posted by Helz on 11/11/2026 at 11:51 AM (post #20)

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/11/2026 at 11:43 AM (post #18)

This had me go into DP3 already incensed with him and suspicious of him. I started out wanting to generate as much activity as possible as we had literally nothing to work with since DP1 was dead and DP2 was cut way short. The way Wyted was acting after he had just royally fucked us over just wore on my nerves, because whoever went into DP4 would still have to find the last scum and us turbolynching someone DP3 would give them very little to work with. In the end I got pissed off and let my emotions get the better of me, but if Wylted had just actually worked with for even 2/3rds of the DP and helped to generate activity instead of endlessly whining about people playing the game I probably could have been convinced to go Mago. But when he voted me I figured he didn't actually believe that Helz and Mago were a scum team, which he had pushed all day, so it was kind of the final straw.

There was nothing original being posted for the last 24 hours. Even Banana recognized that. It was the same spam from Helz who was acting like he was doing something.

But once again, your only team was Wylted/Banana. Did you really scumread Banana?

Oh, I really did have a monster post. I was not joking. I basically did full ISO's on every living players with breakdowns of analysis and interactions between them. I just saw Wylted at L1 and shrugged. Figured I would read the DP before hammering to be fair but I 1000% really was working my ass off yesterday building an over complicated breakdown of every player and association potentials.

I mean it would’ve just rehashed everything you had already said. It doesn’t do much against pure mechanics. Wylted/Mago was never a team here. Period. Then it’s just analyzed which of Mago/Helz and Wryly/Wylted is the scum team. For the former, both are scummy. For the latter, one is extremely scummy, and the other is extremely townie. The townie was scum last game that I was in, and it’s night and day. Therefore, they are town by behavior and role cause Luna always includes Vanillas. Hence Mago/Helz are scum. Pretty easy

I disagree. Wryly was dead D2. You are crossing names there with Banana.

Also you are excluding the factor that Rex was basically only town read because of the miller claim. From what I was tracking they were not ever town read in the game for another factor than that miller claim until certain parts of D3 unfolded.

(Side note, I told Luna I am good with Mafia chat being released to everyone. Not that its anything special but figured I would throw it out there. A lot of sites release it by default)

Ya know, I am curious. How do you think the game woulda gone if we did not kill you?

You would have had a green check on me and I probably woulda claimed citizen. Do you think you could have sorted that mess?

Originally Posted by wylted on 11/11/2026 at 12:57 PM (post #24)

the authentic reason for his anger is that he knew it was Mago/Helz voting me would be the absolute last thing he should do.

you literally said you were about to vote me despite confirmed scum in mago, so what's my options if I am about to be at L1 and know helz is scum? I have to hope to God I am wrong and you are scum and just vote you

But I didn't vote you. Because I still wasn't sure. You, according to you, were 100% sure that Mago/Helz were scum. I thought your reaction to that, if you were town, would be to try to finally actually talk to me about the game and what might happen the next DP. From my perspective it seemed like you weren't even thinking about that. From my perspective, every interaction with you that DP felt like an attempt to manipulate me into voting Mago as soon as possible and foreclose on the DP just a couple hours in. It was appeals to my ego, insults, complaining that the DP was still going. Mostly when someone is trying to prod a vote like that it's coming from scum. That sets my hackles back and makes me suspect someone, because if someone is scum a town player can usually make a strong case against them based on the facts of the game. I saw Banana doing that and that's why my read on her shifted.