Please forgive me for developing the site further. This is why I wanted to run a test game before this one. Oh well
Please forgive me for developing the site further. This is why I wanted to run a test game before this one. Oh well
Agree
Welcome to the game!
A-Gerard wrote:
Kohai wrote:
Test
ey chill
sorry wrong thread!
Kohai wrote:
Yes please!
Oops wrong account
A-Llewella wrote:
Its a bad play. But its openly bad to the point the optics look awful. Would not be a position a scum would want to openly say.
I'm more concerned with how little they have voiced outside of Anon, OGI, and claim ideas.
So are you basically arguing it is TWTBAW?
A-Brand wrote:
I am not feeling well and have asked to sub out
I am sorry to hear. Please feel better
Fiona
There's like almost nothing in their ISO. A bunch of excuses on why they are inactive. They claimed to have caught up but have not done anything substantial since claiming to catch up.
Llewella
The thing I really do not like about their ISO is how quickly they jumped onto my wagon and then how quickly they jumped off of it. p#601 is one thing that caught my attention. They stated they wanted a clear wagon and a counter wagon but failed to actually propose a. counter wagon. They still are not voting. I feel this could very well be opportunistic scum waiting to see who to CW
Let me check the major wagons
A-Deirdre wrote:
I thought I was being pretty clear in my posts. Let’s assume for the sake of argument that in a 13 player game, there are 3 scum. Let’s also assume for the sake that out of the 10 remaining townies, 6 of them are Vanilla, which is a oretty liberal assumption. All the 6 Vanillas are going to claim that they’re vanilla and the 3 scum this early are gonna claim Vanilla cause otherwise they risk a CC. Then if we get 3 vanilla claims this early, probability wise 3/9 or 1/3 are scum prima facie. But we can take it a step further and force them to fight one another to help the rest of us generate reads. And worse case we read all 3 as town, but that still helps towards POE
So why are we assuming that scum will claim Vanilla? Like, I get it, that avoids a CC and there are obvious CC landmines in this game. That's a WIFOM reason for scum to claim Vanilla. That doesn't mean they will. I mentioned this earlier, but as far as I can tell, it wasn't stated that scum don't have access to fake claims. We also know that roles can come from outside those stated in the "Setup" thread, or scum could simply refuse to out and wait for the pool of CCable roles to dwindle as more PRs are forced to claim and more Vanillas are eliminated in an attempt to find scum in that set.
I see earlier that you suggested all Vanilla players should out themselves, so at least you're talking about generating a larger pool of Vanillas to lynch from rather than just lynching among the two players who have claimed. It's not a guarantee that we'll get scum to claim Vanilla, but I get where you're going with it if we assume they do claim VT. But as of right now, with the claims we have on the table, there is no 1/3 chance that either of the claimed Vanillas are scum, and I don't see how lynching either of them necessarily helps with POE anymore than selecting a widely sussed player who hasn't claimed.
Vanillas should absolutely in no circumstances out themselves. This just gives away who the PRs are.
A-Gerard wrote:
I don’t understand your math on the vanilla thing. If there are three vanilla claims and they are actually vanilla and we just go through mislynching them to no avail, we help the mafia win con more than the town wincon. The very discussion of lynching vanillas makes it less likely it will be fake claimed as well.
I agree with this. A big problem: If we are in a setup where there's a significant number of VTs then the more people who claim VT the more likely it is that scum will be bold and claim a PR. The danger in that is we just blindly mislynch a bunch of VTs and misclear a claimed PR
Doing some catching up. Sorry I'vve been incredibly busy over the past few days. I hope people are enjoying the new mafia tools
A-Julian wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Julian wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!
The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier
It really will. I’m going to improve upon the quoting feature tonight.
Suggestion to have double stack forum quoting. Maybe it exists and it’s just cuz I’m on mobile
Yeah. That’s the exact thing I’ll be working on tonight.
A-Julian wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!
The quoting feature is really nice. This is going to make mafia 10x easier
It really will. I’m going to improve upon the quoting feature tonight.
A-Julian wrote:
What the fuck is this new mafia forum. A lot of buttons. Wow
Welcome to the future!
A-Gerard wrote:
There is a certain player in this game who I know for a fact would delay posting on purpose if they were scum as a combination of being busy and for strategical purposes, as they have done it with me before in past scum games. So I am not willing to give inactives a pass this time around.
VTL: A-Fiona
Interesting observation. I’ll keep an eye on them.
A-Flora wrote:
A-Random wrote:
One of the two who claimed could likely be scum. I think the latter. Not sure what vt is but im assuming that's the vanilla in this game and scum will be forced to claim that.
Thats the thing though, if enough people claim VT, it increases the odds that there’s scum in there. 13 player game so probably 10-3 of 9-3-1. Probably 4-5 vanillas max is what I would guess. You’re already half way there
1. This game may have far more VTs than normal games on here.
2. The more VTs claim the more it helps mafia narrow down the Pr hunt.
3. There’s no reason to think mafia can’t gambit by claiming a PR.
I’m exhausted and wil be going to bed. See y’all tomorrow. Going to push more changes through tomorrow hopefully.
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Magoroth - Corwin of Amber
Sign-ups:
REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe
Kohai- Themeless
In the Hopper:
whiteflame - Frieren Mafia
Pie - TBD
Lunatic
REF - Candace Owens Expanded Universe
Thoth - Blood on the Clocktower
Alyssa - TBD
Casey_Risk - TBD
Banana
On Hold:
AnonymousIcon
Wylted - Lulsec
Mag1cman
A-Flora wrote:
. The vote count spam is pissing me off tho
Yeah I may need to work on this a little bit. For now it’s important for folks to call up a post count request when voting to make sure the vote actually properly registered.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Gotta say, not a fan of your entry to the game so far. It’s early so I’ll let you cook. But the type of posts you’ve made so far almost make me wanna buy the theory mentioned that people in the scum PM are roleplaying as each other. That or you are going for a heavy RVS style of play which is also out of character.
Would like a thought and reads post from you at some point.
Agree. I hate how they were so enthusiastic about lynching me on post #125 and completely dropped it after I claimed and you moved on.
Well he didn't completely drop it, because he said he was willing to lynch either of the VT's, so that is kind of why I am wondering why he's going for such a strong RVS play this game rather than really trying. Last game as confirmed town he was asking tons of questions especially in the last day phase. Not seeing that is raising red flags and triggering alarm bells. But again it's early.
So much for an anonymous game lol
Well not a single person so far as even really attempted to disguise their posting styles or change the times from when they are usually active. So cat's out of the bag on this one. In my situation I literally can't hide who I am because I am a night owl working grave yard shifts, so it would be pretty obvious to anyone who I was when I am posting neurotically all night lol. That said there is a chance people are meta gaming this and trying to pretend to be other people. I am open to that for sure.
Yeah and my cover is blown for all the testing during the game lol.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Gotta say, not a fan of your entry to the game so far. It’s early so I’ll let you cook. But the type of posts you’ve made so far almost make me wanna buy the theory mentioned that people in the scum PM are roleplaying as each other. That or you are going for a heavy RVS style of play which is also out of character.
Would like a thought and reads post from you at some point.
Agree. I hate how they were so enthusiastic about lynching me on post #125 and completely dropped it after I claimed and you moved on.
Well he didn't completely drop it, because he said he was willing to lynch either of the VT's, so that is kind of why I am wondering why he's going for such a strong RVS play this game rather than really trying. Last game as confirmed town he was asking tons of questions especially in the last day phase. Not seeing that is raising red flags and triggering alarm bells. But again it's early.
So much for an anonymous game lol
Llewella - I hate their enterance and how quickly they disappeared
flora and Llewella are the two I want to pressure and hear from
VTL: A-Flora
Let’s get a real wagon going.
A-Gerard wrote:
Gotta say, not a fan of your entry to the game so far. It’s early so I’ll let you cook. But the type of posts you’ve made so far almost make me wanna buy the theory mentioned that people in the scum PM are roleplaying as each other. That or you are going for a heavy RVS style of play which is also out of character.
Would like a thought and reads post from you at some point.
Agree. I hate how they were so enthusiastic about lynching me on post #125 and completely dropped it after I claimed and you moved on.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Oberon wrote:
I got role PM the day before. You must be 3rd party
Just mis-read the timestamp, disregard that whole analysis
And this is why I hate OGI
A-Bleys wrote:
yeah what even is this
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/57/amber-mafia?comment_number=121
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/57/amber-mafia?comment_number=122
bleys dude lets buddy
Yeah Gerard and Brand both seem scummy to me. Brand for the mass claim float, Gerard for the role PM OGI and weird reactions - just seems like scum trying to scumhunt knowing it's safe and will produce nothing.
Agreed.
Martin / Gerard unpaired I think
A-Oberon wrote:
Lets get a mod kill on Kohai for testing in production
At least our features work. That’s why I really wanted to run a test game before this one.