A-Random

Wf adding to this

Gun to my head I think its Cain and brand.

I am really really struggling with how to read Cain. But I cant excuse the shitty play. I normally dont trust my gut but its screaming pretty hard

Id bet there is 2 scum between brand caine and bleys

Im still glancing back through some of this and lew just gut checks me as town. The angle shooting shit and him being annoyed read me as as scum but I just read back through some of the solo leveling stuff and he was willing to die just to counter site meta. So it could be a principle thing. I ain't going to vote but I want to shoot caine or brand. Brand has rubbed me wrong since the mass claim idea. Bleys would be my last pick based on poe

Just got home and about to sleep cus gotta go back tomorrow

Responding at was request above but dont really see the point

1) wish washy reads on kohai. It hasn't been wishy washy. I town read him dp1 because he was spending half the day phase spamming the day phase with dumb test shit. Didn't think hed be mafia cus how would of how much time he was spending testing instead of engaging in the game. Then 2 vanillas died and didnt think their was this many vanillas so he was in my poe. Add that to the switch on oberon etc. His play has just been erratic and as always he's playing like a monkey.

2) slip - me calling him magic is not a slip you dingus I've been saying thats who I thought it was the entire game

3) derailing - I wasnt derailing a lynch. I was in a pm with him last game as mod where I watched him posion gambit to stall the game. There is a role that could have existed where he could yeet himself. Thinking he was stalling to use that role to cause confusion or the mafia could have had a wincon is not irrational. Not plausible sure but he tends to gambit hard. I had no issue with who ever the other lynch was as i trusted gerald and he saw shit I didnt.

Avoidance - I didnf avoid Fiona. I was skimming. I avoided like everyone half the game because I was focusing on what I thought oberon was doing and was pissed no one was entertaining the chance of that being possible. When you skim a game. You miss things. I've missed lots of things cus I dont have the time to read through a thousand posts and form articulate reads. Going off what sticks out to me the most

Avoiding me - I never interacted with them. Cant speak to why he didnt have reads on me but given who that slot is. Him going out like he did makes sense. Also I was unintentionally derailing his lynch in hindsight so im sure he had no reason to engage me

The most wishy washy I've been on caine is now. As im really starting to think this is town vs town and mafia are prob sitting back and letting us drive the train off the tracks.

I have no idea how to read David. Going to trust wf and sheep. His mafia play is awful most of time and the read on me feels like omgus. He had be almost blocked then swapped after I scum read him. Hard to say whether its retard omgus stuff or he's trying to push an easy lynch. Which is what he feels lolr im doing

The more im thinking about this. It may be helz or brand The anger on the angle shooting, suggesting its me and then sitting back snd letting a lynch happen either way is how mafia would play this

But yeah im passing out. Work tomorrow and mother's day over the weekend so not sure how much ill be around.

You decide what to do wf. I aint got the time to look at specific interactions or slips but after reading how retarded david is , it does make me think mafia could just be letting us drive off the cliff

Vote me or dont vote me Idc

But whatever you vote I'll vote so just lmk if you decide not to throw and trust me.

The post from my other account was not intentional. I have the password saved and clicked the wrong login. Literally am posting from a war room at work on small breaks.

Deir im going to appeal to you 1) because I know you 2) because you know my play better than anyone still in the game. You are not cced so unless there is a massive gambit. You are towb

A) I played this game because Gerald asked me to and based on his interactions I had already town blocked him. He knows me better than anyone and is faster to catch me than anyone as well. He had me as a hard town read. In what world would I kill him. I would have kept him alive and buddied him. It makes no sense to kill him

B) I soft claimed my role DP1 and why I wanted to lynch between vanillas. I have been consistent

C) I don't regret my read on Oberon. I really did think scum had a win con and a stall could win them the game potentially and he always takes gambits

D) my reads are not perfect. As I mentioned I played this for Connor and also because the site needs mafia activity. But there has been no chance for me to build out reads like I normally do because of the amount of posts and because of the new job

I urge you to look at this push because its an easy mislynch in mafia eyes

Bout to log off to go back to work and this weekend is mothers day so will be on limited for a while

My gut says caine. Hes been all over the place this entire game. Town read me heavily. Jumped on the oberon idea when I was wrong and no adjusting his logic when im on the table. He seems overly opportunistic. I struggle to read between his poor reads and town play and his scum play but I do not like his play this game. As gerald mentioned. Even last game his reads were better and consistent. This seems all over the place

If not him. Look at the people that are genuinely frustrated with angle shooting as mafia would be mad that he hasn't killed me

Either way leaving it in your hand brother. If you've did some wild gambit as scum congrats but I dont see a world where its possible. I am town and hope you actually come to that conclusion. If not then its on me for not being around much and actually being able to keep up. I hate losing but aint putting this before my job. Gl with whatever you decide.

At work all day. Anyway that knows me irl knows I started a new job and im busy. Which is why im not posting a lot and glancing. The Oberon push was two fold. Will have an actual updated read list tonight.

But I think there is scum between lew and Caine.

Will go ahead and say im VT for poe purposes and for people to chew on. If you re read my dp1. I bread crumbled this heavily and its why I was dead set on lynching in the vanilla lane because I didnt see two vanilla and myself immediately being possible.

I do think we need to out the jailer. The NK isn't a surprise if the jailer can protect wf. Gerald was hard pushing whoever the lynch was last dp, forget the name but to me he was bleeding town. So if scum can't kill wf. They go to the next most town read person. Gut is saying caine but want to iso that Oberon wagon and people that agreed with it. Was fine with either target last dp and I do think that scenario was possible given how magic plays. But outside of that, there is a lot of info on counter wagons and who entertains them

L-1

Not sure there is much left to get out of this after reading. If this is a gambit by wf and they have a wincon then well played.

VTL: A-Fiona

Its 9 players. Prob 3 scum and a tp. If anyone has an ability to get a kill outside the of the night kill its going into tomorrow at 6 players and scum having 3 if we shoot wrong. Otherwise it's going in 7 players with scum and a tp

All im saying the thought of someone stalling to end the game to put themselves in a good position is not outlandish. Granted as I'm reading this, there is s cc so that is obviously the focus

Im not asking questions. Im making statements. You asked why. I said i watched you do this with poison last game just to stall a day phase hoping it would carry far. You are always big on gambit

Is this promised, no. But people being like "its not plausible" when you said modkill and the mod corrected you is not some for fetched theory. Especially if the game could end tonight.

Im backing off on this a bit given I seem to be the only person that thinks you would do this and that annoys me. Everyone else thinks its self resolving but part of me kinda does hope you are scum and this just ends tonight so I feel somewhat validated

Why would you out yourself? Because its entirely plausible scum could win today given tp roles and stalling the game is always an effective idea. Watched you do it last game religiously

Would benefit him as scum or mafia. Causes chaos and could steal a heavily town read persons account. Again j could be overthinking but a stall tactic isn't out of the question.

I believe if he's doing it. Its whatever role allows him to yoink someone's account as he would want to flip dead

Actually thats wrong. Mafia would be motivated not to lynch Oberon.

Caine is prob a town lock and stupid

I have no idea how no one is even bothered by both the timing and wording of that

"Well boys im being modkilled"

Luna asks about it and then he course corrects. Yes if could be blackmail and bad timing but no one even considering this as an option when it's possible is annoying especially if there is a wincon today.

If I admit that im wrong and everyone wants to townlock Oberon then the next target imo is Caine.

Hes been all over the place and a vt claim.

A-Llewella wrote:

A-Random wrote:

I want to point out again if Oberon is lying. He will flip [and if he's that role that steals], we will have literally 0 idea

I am on him for 2 reasons.

1 because he admitted to not being someone and I dont think i can buy that given his typing patterns and how that mod kill post looks. I think he was lying.

And 2 because I really I dont buy that he would frame the wording as mod kill and then immediately adjust it after the mod corrected that statement.

I could be overthinking it but I really dislike this as its not a freaking mod kill and I dont see someone with any experience wording it in that way

I have 3 points there

1- Dude is self resolving. They flip or we handle them tommorow. I don't see scum going all in for such little reason

2- I can see someone viewing a mod judgment on a complicated role like Blackmailer as "The mod is killing me aka mod killed" when spoken of with little thought. The timing of it was bad with the mod enforcing the anon rules but I can see the phrasing being an innocent mistake.

3- We can loose the game today 100%. We need to flip a wolf today.

This is not self resolving and we could lose today. That's exactly my point. That claim allows him to stay alive and even we are going tomorrow. It resets the read entirely. Self resolving implies he does not have an out. He has an out and motivation to stall and even if he ends up dead. We can't prove he's actually dead. We also can just outright lose.

I dont think im shaking the wording of him being modkilled and course correcting after the mod corrected it.

I entirely can see a world where they have a win con today and this is a stall out for that wincon as well

I want to point out again if Oberon is lying. He will flip [and if he's that role that steals], we will have literally 0 idea

I am on him for 2 reasons.

1 because he admitted to not being someone and I dont think i can buy that given his typing patterns and how that mod kill post looks. I think he was lying.

And 2 because I really I dont buy that he would frame the wording as mod kill and then immediately adjust it after the mod corrected that statement.

I could be overthinking it but I really dislike this as its not a freaking mod kill and I dont see someone with any experience wording it in that way

Caine does seem scummy as fuck but I struggle to everyone understand whether he's playing like shit or he's scum

I just think he still can take over an account. Its the wording that has me to stuck.

He could have said I'm dying or will die

He specifically chose mod kill and adjusted it only after the mod confirmed that no one is being mod killed

The thing is if he is tyga or whoever yanks accounts. He can say whatever he wants because if he makes it through the dp. He will have the account the following dp and we wont know who to target.

I want to think on this. But something seems wrong

If we leave his fucker alive. I would bet my left nut hes going to hijack an account

A-Gerard wrote:

I don’t see it brother

Dude guy literally says mod kill verbatim and is like "nah its not a modkill" its technically a game mechanic after the mod confirms that no one is mod killed. Mod kills implies the mod told him he's dying. The mod said that didn't happen. Hes not retarded

Also that all but confirms with me about his identity

Please god to not let this fucker get away. If he accidentally typed mod kill. He deserves to die. Mod confirmed this after.

Im telling you. If we leave him alive. He's yanking someone's account.

Bro re read that shit. Its the slip of slip. Says mod kill. You ask the mod and the mod says nah. Then he course corrects. There is no shot we dont kill him

A-Gerard wrote:

I guess I’m not that worried about the crypto thing since it’s easy to pick people changing post styles. At most he’s rogue Tyiga but I’m pretty sure he was black mailed

It is leaving him alive regardless and stalling. This is a slip that the mod corrected publicly. Hes prob flaming. Yeet him

This is a you know who gambit.

He yolos and said he's being "mod killed" he knows what that is. Its not a mechanic. He chose that wording. He's trying to stall for some reason. He did not think the mod would openly say that and had to correct

Dude fuck no. Mod confirmed it after he claimed that. Hes not retarded. He knows the difference

My vote is staying here. Ill eat this and be happy with this. He prob didnt think the mod would publicly confirm this.

This is so scummy. Kill him before tonight.

If they dont die and he suicides. His account flips and he hijacks someone else

Okay was catching up and typing as I go. Everything in my gut tells me he's going to kill himself with that take over ability. If he flips in the dp its diff.

But something feels really off. Even if he's lying about this, and we go to the np it won't matter. As he will flip tomorrow.

Glancing at work but I really want to look into roles and what they do. This feels like a you know who gambit and my spider sense is going haywire

Missed the part after this. But I would bet anything that he is going to yeet himself

Alright boys and girls I just got confirmation that I'm getting modkilled at the end of this DP so can we just treat me like confirmed town

Mod just confirmed this is not true. My initial gut was he wanted to appear dead to takeover an account and asked mag could he confirm a mod kill is happening. He said no mod kill has been issued.

Oberon is scum

Mago just confirmed to me there is no mod kill taking place

He's scum. Yeet him