Mikal

"Bro, kohai and thoth are begging me to mod kill you. Its retarded as fuck. Pie does it one game and now this shit starts happening"

I am not going to pretend I dont have an ogi thing that he confirmed himself. The him and thoth both complaining to luna bothers me and its making me look at the stuff hes saying harder as that dm read as if they were both interested complaining to him and that makes me think same pm

1) claim or die - on owen. Intense pressure and escalation out of no where. The progression of that push is weird. Its not a bsd choice but its a strange push that developed quickly and odd

2) anytime I've seen speech restrictions as a modifier. Its do x or die. His is. Try to do x and I may or may not kill you. I've never seen that modifier like that. Anyone can attest to that who's been in games with speech modifiers.

Yes its a strange role , no progression in reads and ogi

You are functionally a vanilla. By definition. I dont care how a website labels it. You have no role and may or may not die if luna feels like you aren't trying????

So luna arbitrarily decides if you are acting drunk enough. There is not a "if you miss doing it post"

I lowkey hate this.

I've seen this modifier used multiple times but never at a moda discretion. It gives you the ability to say oops I missed a post and have a justification if you dont die.

Kohai did functionally claim vanilla

Is no one reading this dp ....

I have claimed. What are you talking about.

What is an effort.

You mean you can type normally and not die ?

Define forced

Because when speech impaired roles do exist. They are always vanilla. Or at least have been in every game I've played in. Its whether its a farse or not thats the question. Its why I said quasi vanilla.

Usually they come with rules. Like if you dont do this you die yada yada.

As I mentioned. Luna dmed me telling me they were complaining and kohai confirmed it

To be clear im fine with owen claiming as it helps nail down poe and we should be doing this to casey as well. Anyone that tends to afk a lot. But all the above is sus.

Im not saying its entirely AI. Im saying you acknowledged that both you and thoth were doing it after luna told me "both you and thoth were doing it" and you just acknowledged it again.

So yes that strikes me as odd.

Add that to ultra is prone to a mislynch because he largely never plays and is one of the people who would be an easy target

The

"Claim now or die" thing rubs me as odd. Scum have motivation to jump on or throw votes around on dp1 to get claims for poe and try to mislynch.

The logic ans the preogession of the votes there came way to fast and just ping me as odd

Its a few things that added up with you but the ogi info being the most pertinent.

He messaged me and said both thoth and kohai were not stop complaining to mod kill me. But it was how it was worded as both of them. Makes me thing they are in some sjw circle jerk in the mafia pm.

Yes I can see the weariness with the bus driver thing but I also called it out abd kohai responded to it ajd acknowledged it. So no im not making that up lol

Agree. That's why I think a scum is on that. It was like hahahahahahahhaha pressure. And you can get away with throwing votes around dp1

Not sure why this is hard per say. Some claims have direct implications to roles. Others may not. I cautioned anna to be careful because I think her claim does. And the extra caution is for other people who may have obvious roles attached to their claims.

Agree with most of this but the only reason im not considering tailor being something as an option they had is luna is notorious for using this and does use it quite a big.

Let's say they did pick 3 for example and there is a theme split. A tailor balances that and knowing it could exist rebalances it

If they picked 1. They could use a tailor for chaos

They also could just be lying about tailor and the idea of it existing is there for paranoia.

But I've seen luna use it enough that its presence is not "odd"

It seems very odd to not have a theme split. Luna typically runs them and if you can point to a game where he has not had one then ill entertain it more. But yes 1 and 3 largely benefit scum

Luna consistently uses multiple vanillas to make people use behavior

Uses tailors to make people use behavior

It just seems logical that scum would want town to go on a goose chase. Kohai pushing owen is convenient. Dp1 people are going to throw wagons and dog pile and dee what sticks. Scum imo are more likely to jump on wagon fast. So yes. Ultra softed and there is still a push on him when other claims are equally as sus.

The reason I am reading him over you is because im pretty sure I know exactly what your role is based on your claim. Kohai is doing weird typing shit, pushing an easy lynch, and I have luna bitching to me in a dm that him and thoth are babies about wanting to mod kill me. Note [him and thoth] and no I am not spinning this because kohai confirmed it after I said it.

Luna is the only one who uses it for the most part. I dont think hes typically said it upfront but he also has caught hell and been bitched at aggressively everytime he has used it. So not sure disclosing it is odd per say if hes attempting to balance it more.

The last time it was used. Wf and I swept a game if I recall cus we tailored someone to say yakzua and it just made all analysis useless prior to that flip. Most people consider it bastard as hell.

If the split is races vs not [which is something most people's heads would go to id imagine] Why would mafia just claim their characters so openly and so fast. Makes me think that's not it.

Personally David is where im staying. The pressure hes applying is convenient. Old people does strike me as odd compared to the rest but so did pies. Ultra is usually not active so its an easy spot to put pressure. Couple that with luna telling me "kohai and thoth" want me to modkill you makes me think it could have been at same time and they were complaining about it together. Also add in balance. Luna answered vanilla is vanilla with no other portions added so if kohai has some speech impaired role. It would have to be in addition to other vanilla claims that could exist and equally as usless.

Its a soft that is hard to tie my role too. Mines not as obvious, makes sense but dont think its the first role that people land on. There are some claims that are going to be extremely obvious is all im saying.

To the capacity that we can

Im just going to drop this other than spell it.

This is more of a warning for the rest of town. Not to do this. Some stereotypes are pretty freaking obvious and once the race is out. Its not hard to tie roles to it.

We need to be more careful is all.

You dont have to. Its a stereotype game. Some are going to be very fucking obvious.

My role isn't as easy to guess imo. I think yours is prob obvious. Maybe im wrong but just think it was risky

Its not a cc as both are smelly and its a more direct soft than I did previously. I also softed out of the gate but not saying where. There is just enough happening. That it matters less

But giving out your race so openly is not smart because there are some very specific roles id imagine that likely could be tied to it.

I feel like you rolled andrew wilson. Next we are going go hear about Muslim cousin fucking and why they are literally low iq and retarded. Luna watched to much mdd

You are not ccing my justification at all. That was a soft. But I know what your race is and have a good idea of what your role is as well based on that

People are giving way to much info

Im pretty sure I know what half the game is and if its that obvious to me. Its prob that obvious to mafia [unless im right and kohai is mafia then we lucked out]

But if its anything like mine. Roles are very easy to assume.

For a whole bunch of reasons im not going to elaborate on, you need to stop mentioning anything else or hinting at things.