Mikal

VTL: Bullish

For obvious reasons. This has been a disaster and if we went in the order I said two days ago. This would have been easier.

This could be casey but she was a way better lynch yesterday just for confirmation

Between her and bullish. Id always go bullish.

But at least this validates the list

VTL: Casey_Risk

Bout to sleep and prob wont be back before this ends

Casey is in my poe but bullish is a better target. I want him but doing this because its casey or me and im not going to throw and just lay down.

Still think this is prob bullish thoth and shinning. If I do get killed. Im probably going to implicate wf because our roles are so similar. Prob will be a push on him. I think he's town

But no one listens. Casey was better last dayphase

I will vote whoever I have to in order to save my ass but I really dont like bullish

I think bullish is still a better pick

Also bullish needs to say his results. Just dismissed this initially but if he ends up alive and in the poe. I dont want him to have the chance to retcon based on what other people say.

If we end up landing on casey or want to explore someone else. @ me in discord and ill try and see if I can speed read. There are some people I won't consider [wf helz rex] but if its someone that makes sense I'll cooperate

I prefer bullish over casey because as I mentioned. I think hes acting completely opposite of how he normally acts.

I think past that im also good at looking at shinning thoth or magic.

But bullish to me is still the best Pick here since we did not pick casey yesterday

I am about to be very busy today and tomorrow cus graduation is Monday

I hope I dont get lynched cus we are going to throw the game and you are prob going to end up in a spot where you are picking between bullish and casey when I flip town just out of poe

In a bullish vs casey situation. Id go bullish. Behavior is to polar opposite how he normally acts. We kinda lost the boat on casey cus yesterday was the optimal time to get her. We can still go today and if she flips scum great. And then 1v1 bullish and me if she flips towb but I think behaviorlly bullish is just off.

I do think wf is hard town

Lack of a protect makes helz look good and the ability to negate roles from balance makes sense

Can't see a world where rex isn't town

Listed out reasons above. But putting this here in case I get dog piled as im prob not going to have time to defend myself later today and tomorrow and fully expect scum to capitalize on that. But family over mafia game. I've did all I can do

VTL: Bullish

Not sure if itd a correct thought but again wf can validate it was thinking I was the only one who would visit her and I could test her.

Just did not even cross my brain as a good tsrget for scum or town

I guess im thinking a pool of 3 more people in a 9 person game isn't that helpful considering if people wont know its real or if there is 1 or 2 in there even if it is but I see your point.

I just think its short sighted and doesn't do much and operating off that

Why is he a lock to you?

I corrected this below.

But yes you are correct. Its why I wanted her dead yesterday cus I knew we would end up here debating this

Years.

He usually is not like this. I would normally put him in the hardly post and not give a fuck about the game group. Hes active more than like shinning or casey but this feels diff compared to hos normal meta

Actually hitting bullish would not confirm casey. Guess they could he scum together or even bullish and i could be.

This is why I hate this poe and wanted to yeet her yesterday to confirm that list

Her being dead told us the factual aspects of it

That leaves magic and shinning

Shining as always is hard to read cus him vanishing and not playing is nai. Nothing to really read or care about

Magic- even harder. Magic is prob one of the best players on the site and incredible as scum. He does a very good job and playing as he was town as scum and hes versatile. His arguments strike me as odd. He seems to be cluttering reads and posts with trying to figure out ooo instead of looking at behavior at all when I think town Magic prob reads behavior more than he has this game

My lynch pool is something like this.

Thoth

Shinning

Bullish

Magic

In no particular order. When we hit Bullish it will confirm if casey is telling the truth. Which is why I wanted to hit her yesterday

But thoth is the one ringing my bell. Mainly because the more I think about that claim could largely be a way to claim safely

Past all the what if this happened or what if that happened. Im trying to look at behavior. Im much more of a mechanical ogi person but everyone including myself has looked at the ooo and no one can quite figure out why things happened. To many variables and unknowns. This is the one game we should go on behavior

Casey - the dreamer is a golden claim and just wins she claimed this and we buy it. Given mafia have questions to ask. Its very very possible and she should have died yesterday to confirm the list. But here we are wondering if its real

Past that, the only reason i have to sus her is what i said above. Don't see either team going to her which is why i kept asking if someone visited her

The harder thing with her is I behavior wise ping her town as fuck. Thought processes. How calm she is. 0 fear in the lynch and trying to solve despite pushes. It just feels good

Wf - this is still prob my hardest town read. 1k posts and never did he slip. Convo was just to many posts and to fluent and he largely had the same thought process as i did without ever fucking up or slipping

Skep - prob second hardest town read. Mainly because if how he claimed tracker. Just cant see scum doing it. Also how he trolled earlier in the game and getting attention for no reason

Helz - third biggest read. This is largely cus balance. Behavior wise hes hard. Have not played enough with him but the ability to negate multiple roles and have some protection seems logical

Thoth - he still bothers me. Hes not posted a lot or engaged much and seems to be coasting. His claim seemed like a stall tactic. Thought he was inno child but david flipped that. Then I wondered the claim was a way to functionally claim last and avoid a cc

Bullish - so just seems off. I dont buy the poe from casey fully but he seems eratic as fuck compared to his usual chill playstyle. Hes hard death tunneling and it just sticks out from town games I've seen him in where he normal doesn't give a fuck

Also wf can confirm this was literally my thought process yesterday.

But maybe I'm assuming everyone thinks like me and mafia did go herp derp

I mean maybe I'm assuming to much but having any night actions on casey as both town or scum makes no sense.

Town cus it would interrupt her. I hinted I was going to visit her to see if I could stop the results but wanted her to claim if she did or did not dream to cross compare. If she got a result then it gives her heavy cred. But no one in town should be going to her. Just tried to hint I was to see what she would say

Scum. Why would scum waste actions on someone that is on the chopping block. She gets results great. Half the people in the game are not sure they exist and there is a 3 person poe. If mafia did go to her then they are stupid. Other actions could be way more harmful to them given some people still have not claimed.

She's in a poe with 3 people and no one is sure if the results matter? Why would scum visit her lol. Didn't you say you also got vanilla ized. So they if they hit you, they have limited actions left. See it as hard pressed they would worry about casey when half of town is questioning the dreamer results. What is another set of reads?

David was commenting on much how it comes up in games so yeeted it i think. Figured jt was him or savang

I think for me its between bullish and casey. Someone inside that poe is lying. Has to be. Both could be scum. 1 could be scum [more likely] but both cant be town

Going to think on who I want to vote. Bullish just seems hyper aggressive and has turned his brain off. The death tunnel and how aggressive he is just contrasts so much with his normal play

Casey's behavioral seems town but did not get a dream. I didnt visit as i hinted cus I wanted see the response if she thought I was visiting her. No one is claiming to have went to her so this seems sus

Behavioral im on bullish

Mechanically and the benefit of the fake claim. Im on casey

Im leaning and inclined to go bullish cus behavior this game is going to outweighs mechanics due to all the the fusion around the ooo

?

You can also confirm this with him because I checked like 3 times.

Also what I mean by to many variables and more likley to be wrong than right.

Pie literally told me "its towns issue' if we are interpreting what he says wrong

His ooo is

I operate first but do not resolve first

So

I go off

And if a rod is there it would pull me. Then I would resolve

FYI you are forgetting the part that wf processes first

I go off "first"

But a rod would pull me to them.

I dont resolve first.

That is per pie

Its literally framed a redirector. Pie even told me this lol. Assuming he just set it up as a magnet to make it match. Been saying it was functionally a redirector forever.

Its also not playing dumb. There is just to much going on with pie saying shit about a buss driver. Wf saying rod and my role. To many variables to try and make any locked connection of the last dp ooo.

I've been trying to use claims, poe and behavior to do something. Behavior is why I read wf as town so hard. Its hard to have like 1k messages and to have nothing stick out if he was scum. Like we were texting so much it was like a full on fluent conversation at points.

But not going to pretend I have any idea about what could or could not have happened with ooo and I think we are more likely to make a wrong assumption than right with so many variables that are not known.

Is no one saying they visited casey.

Waiting to see how this impacts my read

Im ngl. Im extremely confused about this ooo shit. Mixed in with a potential bus driver. It hurts my head

Are we saying wf was not suppose to move the night he moved based on ooo? Pie said the opposite if I recall