Its about to be night time. Most people will be asleep soon and prob wake up after the day phase ends. We have to land on something. We are looking like a no lynch at this point and if there are 3 scum and we dont get a protect, stop, etc off. We prob only get one lynch just by basic math.
This is painful at this point.
Having a good reason to believe a claim doesn't mean its true. Taking a gambit when you are already a prime target is not some foreign concept. Everything you post has no consideration or leaves room for any opportunity she could potentially be scum
"We are lynching in the poe"
Not " we are likley lynching in the poe"
"Tomorrow we will be picking within the poe if she dies"
Not "we could be"
The words you are choosing are way to casual and just reek of tmi. There is no room for an assumption. That is talking as if they are confirmed.
Tmi tmi tmi tmi tmi tmi tmi
How the fuck do you know we are lynching in the poe. If she is scum there is no poe and we lose. The fact you can even say that points to the fact you have her town locked with no valid reasoning as to why you can assume shes locked.
Like this is what baffles me about the resistance to this.
You lynch her and she flips scum. Great we got scum
You lynch her and she flips town. Confirms her results and every action in the game. Both claimed and unclaimed ones hit you luna and I. Then we hope we get results. Its a 10x better game state than wondering if the claimed dreamer who was a prime lynch target is walking us off a cliff
Except as scum if you lynch her and she flips town, you are in the poe with confirmed results. Town should want to lynch her so they can consolidate night actions based on the flip results. This is exactly what I mean by tmi.
Noted
Your role works exactly as you said correct. If you come back and say something diff. It fucks this up horribly.
Between one us. There should be at least one of us alive. Assuming I dont get yeeted today and that info can get passed on
I've given wf a mechincal solve to nail poe heavily
Not putting it here cus i dont want it to be fucked with. But saying it so he can validate it when I point it out tomorrow
Thats true as well. Just saying from me its hard to discet. I do think hes scummy as shit though
I have an idea that i dont want to mention. Going to tell wf in chat but I just thought of a fucking genius way to solve this game. Assuming everything you said is true
I agree. Its weird as fuck
Just more like. Shinning does dumb shit in every game. Him and kohai are bitches to read
The behavior in general is scummy
Coming from him its nai
Its like when kohai says retarded shit that's stupid. He does it as town and scum
Not saying hes not. Just that there are some people that post very little and are just mislynch prone lol
FYI we need to consolidate votes. We do not need to end up in a situation where there is a cfd last min or we just get a no lynch cus we dont agree
A no lynch is literal worst case. Means if there is 3 scum we only get one lynch.
Magic is also unusually inactive and seems to be lurking
Issue with this game is activity atm. Way to big of a pool of nulls.
Poe to me atm is you or bullish
Then magic shinning Anna
People that dont post coast. Down to a few hours so need to land on something. I wish people could see the utility in you but dont think its happening so staying bullish. Id shot bullish over luna anytime. I think there is a world wher3 luna is scum but just dont see his claim being something a scum luna does
Shining is a bitch to read. This is his playstyle every game we always mislynch. Above post was very weird but its nai. Killed him a few games ago for similar reasons if I recall and he flipped town
Def think there ie some scum in magic Anna or shining. Mentioned this in an above post of mine
Think that is backseat to the larger issue if you and bullish though
I can't copy and paste what pie told me but you can verify this with him
He told me
My role would process first in all situations
And that wfs would come after
Then I asked him could wf pull me to him and he said yes
So I pushed him on the verbiage of that and was like. Well that means wf is resolving before mine so wf is tech resolving first. And he said no
Then I kinda bitched at him over his wording choice and then he said its our problem if we dont understand it
To tldr
Pie said I resolve first
But also confirmed a rod would still pull me to it
His ooo is magnet rod
But he is saying the rod would still affect a magnet.
She was a prime target and was the lynch until you redirected it to mago and was on the chopping block. You are telling me there ie no conceivable way where scum claimed that when op says they can ask questions about the game?
Just blindly believe it and walk off a cliff instead if validating the resulrs and playing it safe
Again ill double down on this. The push on casey is literally how you solve. Not sure how people see it as scummy when it promises a pool of people to pick from [if they flip town] that we can consolidate on with night actions and poe. It amso covers a scum lynch in case they are lying so we dont walk off a cliff. The fact a lot of town, most of whom are very experienced in mafia are not considering this is what is troublesome
Ill 1v1 bullish cus I have to but that's not the correct play
The correct play is utility and making sure we dont end up in a situation tomorrow where we could potentially be picking from casey and whoever is left on that list.
Casey either flips scum and gg
Or flips town and we have an exact poe
This is not rocket science
Lynch pool to me looks like this
Casey
Bullish
Thoth
Plus one of of the bulls based on evolving behavior and results.
I have family coming into town for daugters graduation so I am not sure how active I will be. Theybget here today and are here for a weekish. Could be around a lot but may not. Optically not sure how that looks yet.
Been talking with wf a lot and his theory is this shove on me is so when I flip it implicated him because of how similar the roles are and sets up an easy mislynch. Its possible that is true but I want ti update my read list in case I do go out
Wf - im pretty positive hes town. Not locked but behavior wise hes good. If I go down please do not let the similar roles force a read on him. Really do believe its very plausible and he's been consistent in chat since we have been there
Luna - prob town but second guessing. Null/town. The way hes shut his brain off with bullish makes me wonder if there is a pair there but I don't see a scum luna making that claim
Rex - prob the most town. I dont see him claiming the way he did as scum
Casey - null. Could be scum and could be town but they are the correct lynch today and the fact there is a 1v1 is going to make tomorrow very hard. Regardless of who dies today and what they flip. We are in a position wondering if the results are true. Still think casey dying validates those results.
Bullish - prob scum. Also a brain dead push and the fact they have not considered that casey could be lying reads like they dont want casey to die and bleeds tmi. Casey flipping scum would move him to town in my head and give credibility from balance but behavior this push and braind dead shove feels bad
Helz - null/town That role seems to be the only way we can protect ourselves other than wfs claim so I tend to believe it
Thoth - maybe scum. The role that reveals dp4 could be used to stall since we may not even get there. This is strictly poe and I am flipping on this a lot because of that town slip about asking who Connor was dp1
Magic Anna and shinning are null
Prob one other scum in the nulls.
To be clear. Casey is still the correct lynch but at least is measured and considerate of exploring the game state
Whiteflame mentioned this in chat and the more I look at this the more desperate it seems and hes right. The person who im saying should be lynched is evaluating this more than than bullish.
It's bleeding opprutunisc, rushed, and no consideration for other outcomes.
I want to look at if scum has a way to win today. Dont seem how but the desperation in this is concerning
VTL: Bullish
Sigh if this is the 1v1. This needs to be casey
Told him that makes no sense with how hes saying first and second
He said thats everyone else's problem
Okay pie confirmed my ooo
He is just saying it wrong
Told me the magnet and redirect would be overtaken by the rod
Meaning I would off but I would not resolve. Wf would pull me to him
I think pie may have goofed something. When he potentially slipped about the bus driver. He gave me a diff ooo.
Im pressing him about it now
I got a different answer from pie initially about order of ops. Clarifying with him.
Also i am strongy for casey due to utility but if 3 people are shoving me (bullish and luna included)
I will go bullish since more people are there. Strictly to save my ass and play to my wincon.
Casey is the correct choice but if we are going to a 1v1. Potentially town v town, I will shamelessly vote that way because bullish very likely could be scum. Thats not the correct lynch for today though. Verifying Casey's results is the correct move
But if we are going to do a 1v1, then will default there since its not me
