After the mod confirms *
After the mod confirms *
I think it could be pie. David has went dead silent after the most of time. Prob cus pie is eating his ass in pms
People sussing him for tmi for anti claim
when there is anti claim in the op is werid as shit
I will admit none of this is a “town lock” but both situations are pretty damn close to mod confirmation and will act as such until something comes up that contradicts it
do so at your own risk as there are very nasty anti-claim mechanics. I cannot stress this enough. You are free to claim, but it may be extremely detrimental.
I’m saying he did. He won’t validate it. You can believe it or not believe it. Could be lying
I’m saying he did. He won’t validate it. You can believe it or not believe it. Could be lying
all of that is irrelevant. The fact that he Thoth agreed to the wording blindly
means he’s very liklely not scum. Scum prob would not risk that. Me being torn confirmable and David also shutting it down validates that wording is there.
why would he agree to that as scum and risk being wrong ?
im sayinf he basically messaged me and said my bad. I should have clarified you can’t discuss that.
Shoot me because I can town confirm myself ?
regardless of that entire discussion I just claimed 2 town confirmable roles and you are still deducing im lying lol. My point is that the mod prevented discussion of that which validates that is in fact the wording. So either Thoth just outright risked getting caught in a lie by blanket agreeing as scum or he’s town. Cus we know mafia weren’t given that cus David basically apologized.
In the op. Why would he warn mafia against anti claim lmao
The fact David is saying we can’t discuss it implies they weren’t. Plus it’s David. He messaged me saying he should have specified that
I’m willing to shoot both pie and awesome. The idea they are pushing back out anti claim mechanics the op says it strikes me as beyond odd. Prob 1 scum there.
Actually was just thinking how we can abuse this. This role feels likes is designed to be not amazing cus no one is town locked. Like I can give it to scum. But with two 2 confirmed people. This just makes it easy.
1) scum can target me with a kill and waste their night action. It stops me from singing but I can’t die. This will mean there is no nk at the cost of them preventing information. Rest of town will have results.
2) they can roleblock or redirect me. If they redirect me we just need to e cautious on who got the results but this also means we will know it happened. I target x and they send me to why. We now know a redirect is in the game
3) they roleblock me. Wonderful. It’s a roleblock that’s not used on town
I think at the end of the dp. I call a target and we put protection on them and it ensures they get it. The roles downside is scum can get it but with 2 mod confirms. We may as well bust the game.
there are other things that prevent it. But not saying what yet. As it gives mafia info. Only saying that in case one of those happens and someone’s questions it later
This is an inherently dumb take because if anyone else has that wording. They would know we are town confirmed. Not to mention I can confirm myself.
you think the mod literally says. “Do not talk about pm win con when we are lying”. He knows he fucked up.
You know what. I’m not claiming my character but I am going to full claim my role as it will look sus later and thought about it. There is no real reason to hide it from mafia.
this is why I said the game is not balanced
I’m a popular, Caroler, that can’t be night killed
not claiming my character cus I think the anti claim mechanics apply.
i am immune to all killing actions but if I am targeted it stops my from singing. I was debating this, I think the balance is
that I also can target scum with the song and they can lie. There are also other factors that stop the song from going off. Don’t what to say what they are. But essentially I give someone a dream (what I meant by confirmable )
also im popular.
ask me why this role is here and can’t tell
you
I will not discuss further but if someone asks me for why I town read them. Will point back to that post
Which should honestly lock both him and I
I have to post this and will drop it but it will affect my reads the rest of the game
1) Luna is a lock. 15 mins before the game started. He said he had not received his “pm”. If this was mafia. The other mafia person would also be missing it and he would have to start a discord pm add them and wait for confirmation. He said he was waiting on one person to confirm. So this cannot be mafia as he received it and it started 15 mins after. The fact this was missing on debate craft is a town lock. It’s possible he’s scum but it’s so unlikely given all that lining up I’m dismissing it unless something overwhelming changes that
2) Thoth is town lock. David stopped discussion and specifically said about the wording of a win con. This confirms the wording of accurate
David has basically mod confirmed 2 people and im confirmable later in the game. So we 3 town locks currently.
scums options are limited on who they target now. Now we just need to Poe
That’s fair. Just pointing out its odd
from you as well and that’s all I have to go off of
Town lock
myself
thoth
luna
There’s your mod confirm
luna and Thoth are town lock
The instant agreement of the PM structure. If I was baiting and that was not in PM he risks getting caught. Scum would be risking a bait to say that
Mine says it verbatim which is why I said he and he confirmed it. Could that be piggy backing sure but usually the first person to acknowledge it is town. What if I was baiting and lied about what was in PM to get scum to agree and put them. Agreeing with that blindly is semi AI as it would have to be in his pm Or he risks lying.
do so at your own risk as there are very nasty anti-claim mechanics. I cannot stress this enough. You are free to claim, but it may be extremely detrimental.
im quoting the mod. There have been anti claim mechanics in the past. Where one character is tied to another and can recruit them or prevent their actions etc. This is not a scum pov. It’s in the op
I have no idea what you arguing tbh
you said you scum read him because he “slipped” because he mentioned about an anti claim mechanic. It literally says it in the OP. He was restating that
I was referring to the win condition. I started saying that and he confirmed what I said.
both of the reasons make no sense. You are sussing him for clarifying what is in the OP and agreeing with what I said and stating he slipped with them. I’m largely confused as to what you are even suggesting at this point.
It’s not anyone who is sussing thoth as a standard. It why someone is sussing someone.
if voting someone for pressure and to get them to say something is AI we are in trouble. I think the standard has always been to apply pressure to someone to get the game to move forward. If we only need 2 votes to do that. Why have we ever moved someone to l2 or l1 in the past. Pressure on someone is not AI. I will admit the “oh fuck it” from him seems werid. But not near as werid as saying it’s AI to put a vote there for pressure when it’s not reasonable to hammer, especially after last game.
as for the other person. He listed 2 reasons both of which are just not factual. I would def scum resd that but he’s new so not sure if he’s just not reading, going for a reaction test, or just trying to get something to stick. But his reasons are far worse than yours. I just know you better and I think your point for why you sus him is strange. Especially off a RV
Town Pile
luna
Thoth
wf, pie, and max are where I want to focus
max - is going to log on and will always use the excuse he’s busy. (He is irl all the time) it’s not AI but it’s a very good reason for early pressure so we can lock him into something. He will absolutely coast as scum and be absent as town. So scum will use him as a mislynch or it’s giving him time to work out claims.
WF- I dislike the push against Thoth. It doesn’t seem genuine or good reasons. He dislike putting pressure on someone (only 3 votes) because I took advantage of that last game. We’d need 3 people to all hammer at once to exploit this. RV is a pretty standard part of the game and that is a pretty lose reason to scum read someone
pie- the part about coming into the game and letting him carry because he’s upset didn’t read as genuine. I can’t really put a finger on it but pie always tries hard. Having to point out he is going to try hard cus he’s mad just seems feigned.
1) I started the PM stuff and he acknowledged what I said. I town read him for that. If you that it is AI then you would have to assume that of both of us
2) the opening post literally days “cryptography is allowed” but do so at your own risk because they nasty mechanics for claiming or something
not sure if you are not reading, reaction testing, or just trying to get something to stick but all of that is not great reasons to scum read him.