Mikal

Am I miss reading this game wrong. Is there a world where David is og scum and fake claimed. I really dislike the wf tunnel. It’s considering nothing else and seems very forced.

You are to hard focused on that. Younare blanket assuming they are the scum game. I’m not convinced that you are so both of you pushing wf so hard really bothers me.

it reads like, kill him and we will deal with it tomorrow. Knowing the game is over if it goes through. If you are town you think that is the for sure scum team because you Castin and I locked. Why are you not even considering going pie first as in your mind the result should be the same

Debating how to do this because I don’t think to much more is going to come out. I am going to make some assumptions based off the rest of the game and operate that way going forward. It’s all I have and I don’t think anyone is going to say much to change it because all of it is public and I don’t like twiddling my thumbs

1) I think David is the recruit. It’s still the only thing that makes sense to me for them to jump and die for np1. This means we have to focus on the other scum. Mixed in with the TMI and him explaining that Casey was inactive so it made sense for her to use it. He should be tomorrows lynch if we get there

2) I am town locking Castin. Could she have been recruited. Yes it’s unlikely. If mafia did not pick David. They would have picked blindly. It makes no sense to pick Castin over wf, pie, or myself. But if Castin is scum based on behavior and that genuine town slip she had earlier on the game. Castins role along with what I was given last night is the only real way to gather info about skeps character. If this is wrong. Then it is what it is.

that leaves who do we target today. Granted from someone else’s pov I could be scum but I know I’m town so I’m leaving me out

wf or pie

wf - the thing that is making me second guess this is the role balance. There has not been a protective role other than Thoth. It was a shitty protective role. With wf being able to grab that from the graveyard it makes way more sense from a balance perspective. Do mafia really just get to free kill and still have town die the following np with no chance of protecting and if Thoth dies there is 0 protection.

leaves me pie - from the start of the game since dp1 I’ve questioned it. I felt like he was soft claiming a power role dp1 and changed it after I said he could confirm me and suggested he had to be passive. Martyr is also obscure. Basically a beloved and a good way for to explain why he’s not dead. I am also stuck on Casey’s PM. We know that character exists in the game and from a theme analysis standpoint, it’s the only one that makes sense. That doctor turns her into a queen. I know Luna said the theme was hard but imagine if that recruit did not get used at the start. That theme becomes a lot harder to see.

I think I’m content with this path

kill pie

kill David and if David is not scum, have David shot wf last dp. If David is scum we win.

that is prob the solve either way between wf or pie but I’m leaning pie to start with over wf. Largely because if the one we pick is town the game is over. They could just both be scum too.

Huh that is literally what a yazkua does. What do you mean

It’s its wf and you. Or pie and you. Or Castin and wf.

nonthing is confirmed lol

I’m stuck on that. Part of me wonders if it just that and that is the balance of the yakuza being busted.

yeah assuming you are not scum lol. I do agree it’s between pie or wf but I want to think about this. Because if you are scum and we pick wrong game is over.

not to mention Castin is not even town locked. She still could be the recruit. Very unlikely and as I said she would have to have not did the kill

but atm today is between pie or wf.

o wait my math is wrong. Was thinking the game just would end because we had to lynch him today. But if we get the other scum, it would still end with one person alive.

I keep assuming he has to die before the end of the game

basically it says I created human kind and was involved in the development of the xenomoprhs. My race is often viewed as gods. Superior race of beings both physically and technologically so I am the developer.

Well if you are scum the game is already over. So GG. We just have to play it out.

Want to hear from Castin. I’m positive she’s not og scum given rexes role is as dumb as it reads and he said it was. Low-key I can’t believe that Connor made that shit. Her role is the only thing that half validates the stupidity of it. For her to to be scum she would have to have been recruited and also not carried the nk. It’s possible but not likely.

I got the ability to use a follower. Went to Castin. Was told she was investigative. Asked Connor and he told me it would tell me any action. Even if they did a nk. Chose her because it would validate her result and didnt want to throw the game if she on the off chance happened to be the recruit as the tracker. At least wanted to trust the result to back all my other reasoning for her being town. Small chance she could still be the recruit but she would also have to not have carried the nk now on top of that

It does sound like horse shit. If Luna put this in the game he’s pretty retarted which is why I don’t believe it. Ask me why he claimed this as a fake claim and I could not tell you. Like I said only thing I can think of is his actual role is role cop and he tried to claim it and got Sussd immediately so had to change it on the fly.

It's convoluted, you'll know next DP when you read my flip. I can ask Luna if a role exists. He will tell me 'Yes'. Or he can tell me 'No'. If he tells me 'No' I don't move or do anything. If he tells me 'Yes' I will visit whomever has that role.

lmao pie is right.

he said role to start, then character, now role again. I get mistakes happen but he is slipping so hard. My gut reaction is he’s a mafia role cop since he keeps saying this over and over accidentally

Yes

He said he asks about a character. If that character is in the game. He has to impulse visit them. He’s told if that character is in the game but not who is the character

it’s why it makes no sense

If wf can pick any roles in the graveyard he prob can also pick the doctor as well. So there are 2 options. It’s why I also put wf over pie and skep. There are like no protection roles this game and the one that does protect isn’t even a real doctor. So having his role makes sense from balance as it’s the only real protection town has once the doctor is gone.

I think it’s ref over him but as mentioned it bothered me that it seemed like he was softing a power role dp1 and changed it after I said he could confirm me. He could have been trying to bait which is what he’s claiming but It seems like he backtracked after he realized he could not claim a active role

meanwhile everything about refs claim just makes no sense and he’s changed his story twice. In 10 years of playing mafia. I’ve ever seen a character cop. It also makes little sense in this fame given mafia have a yazkua and no really incentive to fake claim a character. He has to wait every other night to use it and has a very small chance of hitting someone that would even have the incentive to fake claim. It just literally is a useless role and I think Luna balances better than that.

This has been my one thought that gives him town cred in the slightest. The claim is so fucking bad that why would he delay the mass claim (when it seemed like he was claiming a power role due to the refusal. He had 24 hours and that’s what he came up with. But that melts away a bit when you look at the timeline. He claimed role cop (which is a standard role) then changed it after you claimed to a role I’ve never seen.

Bruh the vote count said 2 people. Both you and David have implied Casey was innactive and it feels really tmi. I just went back and looked. That Dayphase started super late at night and most of the activity started when people woke up and it went from like 8am to 2pm. So like less than 8 hours from when people really got on and less than 18 since the game started. Both you and supa have been innactive longer than that in general. That’s not innactive nor would she be a prime target for that. Supa literally made a post saying he would be gone for 3 days at the start of the game. It bothered me when David said it and it bothers me now that you are saying it. It really feels like a weird thing to say as not once would I consider not posting within a few hours innactive. And to try and spin that I did that because I assumed she was going to be scum read so she would not get lynched. None of that is coherent and is only coherent if you have some assumption that she would not be posting. You keep saying I called for a mass claim. It was pies suggestion and I agreed to it along with every other player. I have had the same scum reads most of the dp. One robot/synthetic due to Supas role and likely david because it’s the only reason I can figure out why Casey would fire np1. You are at the top of the synthetic list because of that claim, delaying the mass claim, messing up claiming your role, and messing up claiming what it does. Eveyrthing you are saying does not logically follow and feels forced.

Oh you mean the recruit. I’m Ngl I’m not thinking about it from other peoples perspective lol. I know I’m town but fair. But why would I target a town power role if I was recruited. I’d just waive

Have you ever seen a scum motivator? They would have 2 night kills. I mean I’ve seen weird games but never that

About to be awol for a bit. Starting this exam thing

If you had a power role you would be able to target 2 people. How would you not know.

1) pie asked for the claim

2) it’s logical to do that. Everyone in town agreed including myself. With David claiming vengeful and nothing to go off and this potentially being mylo if David was the target. Yes their needs to be info

3) no one was opposed to this but you. You delayed this for a day when your role is literally useless. I was expecting some hard ass power with how resistant you were and you claim that

4) you have contradicted yourself 2 times now. About what your role is and what your role does and changed it after you were scum read

5) now your doing omgus

I think supa is basically locked. His role implies one of the non aliens or humans are the og scum. It’s the only reason that role would exist.

lmao. You are floundering so hard

Wait didn’t I just ask you if you were told if you visited someone. Like are you even told if the role activated and you said no?

Claims role cop on the hour. Sees it read as scummy by town. Adjusts the role to an even night character cop after Castin claimed tracker. I have never in all my years of playing. Ever seen a character cop. Much less an even night one with the literally only purpose being if the tracker targeted him. He’s not told anything about if the character exists or if he visted himself

vtl skep

You would not even be told you visited them. The only way to confirm if it works if someone saw you visit ?

Role or character ?

What’s the roles name

are they told if you visit them?

are you told which player you are visited.

if you name x character. The mod tells you that you visited that player?