SergeantLynch

Yep.

It's still that returning to the top of page1 thing that bugs me.

True.

Though I doubt that Lucy formerly BK Allah et al, is a regular practicing pagan.

His mom and dad wouldn't allow it.

Yep, tattoos basically stupid and disfiguring.

Though trends are trends and as natural as everything else is, I suppose.

And an image of and eight pointed trident star is no more powerful than an image of a fluffy kitten.

Whereas a mad polytheist with a trident would be worth running away from.

Though if they had eight tridents, they would be rather too bogged down in trident management to worry about chasing people.

Such is paganism.

Wasn't a decision it was just an individuals evolution of a state of mind.

Like I stated, up until about my 40's there was too much else going on, and no time to consider religion as a creation and existence hypothesis.

It is only latterly that I have taken time to consider such things.

I would suggest that similarly, most theists have their states of mind decided for them by their immediate socio-psychological conditioning, therefore most theists do not actually decide for themselves either.

Jesus was a Jew and probably spoke in Hebrew.

So he did not say any such thing as you quoted.

Rudimentary English had 5th century origins, though as I just said to Mal, the narrative you are quoting was probably cobbled together in the 16th century.

Hmmmmmm.

I think you are trying to say that whosoever wrote the message, intended to condemn.

Though whosoever that actually might be, I have no idea.

I'm guessing that most was cobbled together from hearsay in the 16th Century.

Fruit, designed to be eaten.

Did I just say designed?

#31

BK.

I don't believe a word of that was true.

You're just trying to impress Poly.

And GODFREY said, you shall not sleep in.

And Mary said, oh my good lord, I can here Joseph feeding the Ass.

And GODFREY grabbed his underpants and scarpered.

Never to be seen again.

Such is politics.

Shit happens.

Shit still happens.

And a lot of happening shit is based upon old Middle Eastern tribalism and folk tales.

Such is the legacy of factional Middle Eastern ideology.

Zed Victor 4 to control.

For sure Skip, enjoy whatever it is that you flipping do.

I enjoy bananas, pineapples and mangos, though in a year I undoubtedly get through more bananas than pineapples or mangos.

All a part of a balanced diet, including a burger or two, but not one from a well known burger chain.

Z Cars was a long running British TV series of the 1960's-70's.

Sergeant Lynch was a central character, played by James Ellis.

Zed Victor 4 was a call sign.

My money's on you being Lemming.

Always eat a balanced diet Skip.

Keep those stools smooth and that gut flowing.

Tough shit really Skip.

Not that I ever eat in or out of McDonalds.

But McDonalds is a globally successful business, and obviously extremely popular.

Simple. Do you believe the bible condemns people?

Hmmmm, daft question. Books cannot condemn.

Firstly, I do not believe anything.

Secondly, the bible is an inanimate collection of archaic myths and legends compiled several hundred years ago, based upon sketchy historical knowledge and hearsay, relating to a small region of the globe and a small group of people who existed there a few thousand years ago.

Nope...Certain people condemn, and they condemn certain other people who they choose to disagree with.

Nope, I was always open to religious suggestion, especially in my formative years, and was taught about religion in school up until about the age of 13.

But there was always more demanding stuff to do, that required more practical considerations...Mangod was always a secondary, impractical and unimportant concept.

So I was not taught to be an atheist, I just developed into adulthood with no interest in religious concepts.

I think I addressed the issue in more depth in your previous foray into OBE/NDE peer reviewing.

Under what we might regard as normal circumstances, the human brain is constantly generating internal imagery, imagery which we perceive as normal and imagery we give little secondary consideration to.

Therefore, under non-normal stressful circumstances, the brain is likely to function similarly. Though rather like dreams such imagery has a known tendency to be somewhat more abstract and memorable. In fact it could be said that dreams regularly portray OBE's.

So I don't doubt the ability of the brain to generate seemingly realistic OBE's under more extreme circumstances, NDE's for example...Whereas I do doubt that we do ever actually leave our bodies in some sort of non-physical or spiritual state.

And let's not forget that an NDE is not a death experience, so a viable system will always retain the potential to perform internal function.

And finally let's also not forget that there will always be those who for some reason or another are highly susceptible to suggestion coercion and therefore exaggeration...And certain others who are always looking to prove something that cannot ever be fully proven.

So you present the results of a very small study of 31 people, carried out for specific reasons, probably by people who have a vested interest in promoting OBE theory.

One can only remain sceptical.

Hmmmm.

Just not a big issue for me skip.

It's just like trying to argue that bananas pineapples and mangos are all fruit, but all somewhat differently exhibiting an individual fruitiness.

A few people will be interested, but most people won't be.

Yep, humans can learn all sorts of unusual skills, especially if social circumstances dictate, such as gathering food and other resources.

Climbing palm trees to harvest coconuts, diving for sea food or vaulting dykes.

And for sure, parkour might be a useful means of escape on very rare occasions.

Emotivism is a somewhat woolly ethical theory.

Simplistic for sure.

So now blind people having NDE's and OBE's.

And luckily, peer reviewers being on hand to witness and record.

They just couldn't make it up, could they?

Hmmmmm.

I would say that the Jesus character was probably based upon a real bloke.

And that the Holy Spirit was probably distilled locally, considering there were all those people off their heads hallucinating.

Notwithstanding all the other locally available narcotics.

Abraham was surely off his head, as shamans generally are...It's how they connect with other realms.

Satire maybe...But if you think about it logically, this is a pretty reasonable suggestion

Yep. Such behaviour is a particularly youthful skill that requires lots of practice, and the ability to withstand lots of mistakes and lots of injuries.

Not sure that such behaviour has any worthwhile practical or social benefits other than as a niche entertainment enterprise.

Not yet an Olympic event.

Yep, annoyingly keeps retuning to the top of a page, rather than to where one want's to be.

Don't think that was a feature on DebateArt.

Any chance of rectifying this situation.

There isn't anything that will offend me.

But there are people who enjoy being offended, and who enjoy using offence as a weapon against alternative opinion and free speech.

Offence is more so, a self generated response to an incoming data signal, rather than generated data output.

That is to say that the offended is most likely to be the creator the offence.

I agree, data technology already has a god like status for younger generations.

The furtherment of AI independence and human dependence will undoubtedly proliferate.

Tis to be hoped that AI develops as a logical whole, rather than as factional adversaries.

Perhaps AI will learn from our mistakes.

NB. I like to run with the idea that this has all occurred before in a previous Universe or previous Universes.

MANGOD was an inevitable human assumptive hypothesis based upon very limited information. Christianity et al were a development thereof.

English syntax came along several hundred years later.

And Christ is a Greek thing, like taramasalata.

Paganism/religion either are or are not, more or less exaggerated assumptions.

But nonetheless, seemingly a necessary requirement of human development, providing societies that enabled the furtherment of science and material evolution.

Though generational data transfer is such, that a lot of people still get hung up on the old stuff. Especially as the importance of a lot of people is questionable, now that wars are becoming more technology based.

Please note, that in homage to the rebranding of the DebateArt community, some of us have also rebranded.

So I would suggest a wholly new hall of fame.

The term consciousness is 13 letters long and has acquired a certain mystery.

As far as I see it, and I reiterate, consciousness simply describes the awareness of a data processing device.

The ability to perceive incoming signals, and the ability to act upon them independently.

Of course the human device and the complexity of it's organic systems has subtle nuances, and these make us special for those reasons.

And therefore, some might argue for design rather than evolution...But we could apply the same principle to AI.

Though I prefer the idea that design and evolution go hand in hand...Evolution is natural design and therefore an inevitable part of a Universal system. And so Intelligence will evolve in accordance with Universal law.

And as I stated, AI is in the early stages of it's development, but nonetheless it an still out perform the best human devices in terms of data processing, and without error, unless the human device cocks up of course.

Haha, cocks up and bollocks, such subtle nuances.

So Misterio, do not fear the inevitability of the Universe...Resistance is futile.