"The bible presents jesus as god"
How do you account for the fact that it took Christianity 400 years to recognize that the Bible says that?
How do you account for the fact that it took Christianity 400 years to recognize that the Bible says that?
SatanLucy wrote:
Most mathematics is nonlinear, almost all natural processes that science represents with mathematics are nonlinear, linear systems are the rare exception rather than the rule
For AI, to make use of multiple weights, you need a non linear activation function which works in AI system.
Let's say you have two weights. One weight is 2. The other is 3.
If you merely multiplied them, it would be linear because result would be same as having just one weight of 6.
Non-linearity is the only way to make AI which has effectively more than one weight.
Non-linearity can be square, but square introduces a problem where -2 and 2 become same.
For this reason, AI functions like Gelu and Relu exist.
Relu basically turns all negative numbers into 0 while keeping positive ones same.
This is non-linearity.
Achieving non-linearity by multiplication, division, addition... is just impossible.
AI works in a way that it turns input into number, multiples that number with all it's weights, and then generates output.
However, without non-linear function, all weights collapse into one effective weight.
For example:
2x3 plus 2x5 plus 2x2 is effectively same as 2x10.
It is only when you add non-linear function that having more than one effective weight in AI model becomes possible.
AI weights are basically just numbers which are multiplied by input. However, to have more than 1 effective weight requires that the math doesn't collapse into linearity.
Functions like Relu are not math functions. They are actually conditional functions.
Relu turns all negative number outputs to 0. It's a very simple function which creates non-linearity. Gelu is more complex.
Non-linear function is mandatory for AI system, and none of the standard math functions could work for AI. Not multiplication, not square, not addition, nothing in math worked to make AI functional.
As I said, they had to invent an entirely new activation functions just to make AI work. Relu is not a mathematical operation, at least not in any standard math.
None of this makes any sense to me, almost all mathematics in nonlinear, almost all processes are nonlinear, ALL interactive processes are nonlinear, you don't need new mathematics because AI needs nonlinear mathematics.
SatanLucy wrote:
it is still a tool that works, it's just not clear why.
I mean, math was one of biggest obstacles in AI development. They literally had to introduce non mathematical operations to make AI functional.
I don’t know what you are talking about, can you tell me what a “non mathematical operation” is?
This is because AI depends on non linear math.
Linear math only works with one weight. When you have multiple weights, linear math effectively still turns them into 1 weight.
What are you talking about? Most mathematics is nonlinear, almost all natural processes that science represents with mathematics are nonlinear, linear systems are the rare exception rather than the rule.
They tried to solve a problem with square numbers, to introduce non linearity, but square removes negative numbers and this was a problem.
In the end, they settled for non mathematical function which changes number in an entirely different way.
How does a “non mathematical function” change numbers, numbers are mathematical symbols, it’s reasonable to say numbers don’t even exist outside of mathematics.
I repeat, the regular math cannot make AI functional. AI is a system which turns input into numbers, and then changes those numbers by multiplications to produce output. However, because AI entirely depends on non linear math, and regular math proved itself impossible here, to develop AI they invented math functions which never existed before.
I don’t know anything about the mathematics behind AI, but in science inventing new mathematics is the in thing, we develop mathematical theories that produce unobserved and unobservable realities, with new mathematical dimensions and new laws of physics, they are all inventions that they refer to as "discoveries". I don’t know what that is, but I know what it isn’t, it isn’t science.
I mean, plenty of mathematicians were arguing how math is a complete system, until Godel's incompleteness theorem proved beyond doubt that math cannot form a complete system.
Yep, the great David Hilbert had challenged the mathematics community to develop a proof that mathematics was consistent and complete, most mathematicians of the day saw it as a way to make history, and almost every student was working on it as their doctoral thesis right up to the day Godel came up with a proof that mathematics can’t be consistent and complete.
Who shaves the barber in a town where the barber shaves everybody that doesn't shave himself.
I assume this is problem of circularity in math, as well as a contradiction of any closed math sets. If barber doesnt have himself, he shaves himself, creating a contradiction, and similar is true for math generally. If math does calculations for all areas which cannot do calculations on their own, who does calculations for math?
Yes, it’s the self-referential paradox that puts a bullet through so many mathematical, logical, and philosophical systems. Russell discovered that “the set of all sets that do not contain themselves” was a contradiction that invalidated set theory by introducing a contradictory loop.
SatanLucy wrote:
How about the square root problem, would you call that an example of math that doesn't make sense.
The square root of 4 is 2, it's also negative 2, and 2 does not equal negative 2.
Yes, that is an example of math not making sense.
Another example is that -2 is two times smaller than -1, but when you divide -2 by 2, you get -1. Division somehow creates a bigger number instead of smaller one, while multiplication creates a smaller number instead of bigger one.
It's also why 0 is the most problematic number in math. I call him "Troublemaker". This is why my original question was which number is two times greater than zero. There is literally no such number in math.
Any positive number is assumed to be greater than zero, but it is impossible to calculate how many times greater.
How many times is 1 greater than zero?
And why does each number multiplied by zero produce zero?
Multiplication is supposed to produce a number greater than the numbers being multiplied, but this isn't true neither with zero neither with negative number.
And also, what is square root of -4?
There is no square root of -4.
Zero and Infinity are problematic if you think of them as numbers, they represent concepts rather than numbers. Mathematical procedures. aren't really applicable.
Here's a real example.
Who shaves the barber in a town where the barber shaves everybody that doesn't shave himself.
That's a note that Bertrand Russell sent to Gottlob Frege that destroyed his attempt to make Logicism the foundation of mathematics. There were only three systems in the running, Frege's Logicism, Hilbert's Formalism, and Brouwer.s Intuitionism, and none of them won. Brouwer's Intuitionism didn't stand up to logical analysis, and Kurt Godel demolished Hilbert's Formalism, and Russell demolished Logicism with this simple note.
Mathematicians don't like to talk about it, but today, Mathematics still lacks a foundation that is consistent and complete.
As Eugene Wigner pointed out with his article "The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Mathematics in the Natural Sciences", it is still a tool that works, it's just not clear why.
SatanLucy wrote:
So, the men paid $9 each, 3 times $9 is $27, plus the $2 tip is $29, where did the other dollar go?
Boy swallowed it.
Actually, this isn't example of math not making sense.
No, it was actually an example of misdirection.
The men already payed 30$. They got back 5, so they actually payed 25, and now have 5$ left. When they gave boy 2$, they are left with 3$. 25 plus 3 plus 2 is indeed 30.
However, the example makes an error of summing up expenses twice at the end. It completely ignores the 3$ left, and sums up 2$ twice.
Men are left with 3$. They payed 25$ for room and 2$ to boy. That's 27$ expenses. They still have 3$ left. That is 30$.
I added the $2 to $27 to get $29, instead of subtracting it to get the $25.
Good catch.
How about the square root problem, would you call that an example of math that doesn't make sense.
The square root of 4 is 2, it's also negative 2, and 2 does not equal negative 2.
Savant wrote:
They will say, "AI art is real art" and then want to ban data centers
Your rage bait is getting lazy, dude. Who supports AI art but wants to ban data centers? And what do LGBTQ ppl have to do with this?
Lazy or not, he's always been piss poor at rage baiting, the response is never "rage", the response to his "rage bait", is not even mild anger, it's always been laughed at. It's more like"see me as pathetic bait".
Justifying and advocating rape was not rage bait, that was him being serious about how he actually feels and who he actually is. That was just honest "see how fucked up I am bait".
Here's another one:
Three men check into a hotel to share a room, the desk clerk tells them the room is $30, they each give him ten dollars and go to the room. The manager comes back from dinner and tells the clerk the room is actually $25 and sends the bellboy to the men's room with five one dollar bills to return the overpayment. Since the men can't divide five three ways, they each take a dollar and give the bellboy a two-dollar tip.
So, the men paid $9 each, 3 times $9 is $27, plus the $2 tip is $29, where did the other dollar go?
SergeantLynch wrote:
Sidewalker wrote:
Why does 1 = .999...
It doesn't actually...It's a bit like comparing English brie with French brie, and will only matter to a Mathematician or an Affineur.
Except it does actually, one divided by 3 is point three repeating, point three repeating times 3 is point nine repeating, therefore one exactly equals .9 repeating.
1/3 = .333...
.333... X 3 = .999...
1=.999...
In simple terms .999... is always .1 and as many relevant 0's as necessary, short of 1.
No, "as many relevant 0's as necessary" implies a finite number, but a repeating decimal is an infinite process, saying "as many relevant 0's as necessary" is like saying the necessary number of times you must traverse the perimeter of a circle to get to the end, there is no end.
The equation exemplifies incompatibility and simply has to make do.
It only demonstrates the incompatibility inherent in representing fractions as decimals because converting some fractions like 1/3 or 1/9 to decimals results in an infinite loop.
Why does 1 = .999...
Debby wrote:
Beer is used to fight the hot summers in Canada.
Sure, but the other eleven months of the year they use it to fight the cold .
SatanLucy wrote:
He's not going to allow a peaceful transition of power, of that I'm sure, and I think it will make Jan 6 look like a picnic.
Given that he loses all power if he allows transition of power, and probably even goes to prison after if he doesnt get impeached immediatelly, can you think of one good reason why Trump would allow peaceful transition of power?
Trump is in lose all gain nothing situation if he allows peaceful transition of power.
He's an authoritarian that thinks he is a dictator; he will relinquish power only when he is forced to. There will not be a peaceful transition of power, it will be violent transition of power.
I expected Trump to lose because even Americans cant be retarded enough to support this, and his approval rating was so low that its insane he is even still in power.
It's insane that he won a second term. Trump is the personification of American insanity.
Ever since I said at start of Iran war, that Iran will win the war, people thought I was joking. No, I was not joking. Trump will be the loser. I knew it from day 1 of war. Pretty much every military expert was predicting the same as me. However, what I also knew is that Iran war will be Trump's political suicide, mainly because he ran an election campaign promising to end all wars. Betraying that promise was his biggest political suicide he could do.
As predicted, Iran kicked our ass, but it was the Republican Congress and the American people that paid the price, Trump could care less about that. The war was in Trumps interest and that is all he has ever cared about.
I actually even wondered why Trump started war in Iran. It doesnt seem like a rational decision. Someone probably blackmailed him to do it. Decision simply doesnt make sense on any level.
It was time for a new Epstein distraction, and he saw it as a huge money maker.
He has announced unexpected changes regarding the war over 40 times since he started it, his family makes a killing in the prediction market each time he changes the story of what he is going to do next. lran closing the straights. caused a global shortage that let US oil and gas companies make huge margins and increase their stock prices dramatically, since the war started Trump traded over $17 million in oil and gas stocks making over $35 million in profit. His family has made hundreds of millions trading in the prediction markets, go figure, but his sons have an uncanny ability to "predict" what their unpredictable father is going to do next with this war. Trump being erratic and unpredictable with the war is a money-making scheme that has made him and his family hundreds of millions.
Trump's entire second term has been about monetizing the Presidency for profit; Trump started the Iran war because he knew he could monetize it huge.
BTW, how many times have you heard anyone talking about Epstein since the war started?
What is the square root of four?
SatanLucy wrote:
OMG, is SatanLucy a Trumper?????
No, I just don't believe in science, math and logic. These are usual characteristics of a Trump supporter, yes, but I am not a Trump supporter. I support Mao's China.
I hate to have to break it to you. but Mao died in 1976, it hasn't been Mao's China for 50 years.
SergeantLynch wrote:
You paint a bleak picture.
I really hope I'm wrong, I'm usually known to be optimistic, but there's nothing usual about Trump and these times.
I was very good at analyzing and predicting politics for decades till Trump arrived on the scene, pretty much been confused and surprised ever since then, so I'm probably wrong again...but my gut feel is clearly a sense of impending doom.
He's not going to allow a peaceful transition of power, of that I'm sure, and I think it will make Jan 6 look like a picnic.
Debby wrote:
The sale of blankets have not increased in Canada.
Canadians don't fight the cold with blankets, that's what they use beer for.
SergeantLynch wrote:
And very very soon indeed, it will be next year.
And we can all sing "Imagine" by John Lennon and feel all warm and friendly for a nanosecond.
That's not Trump's song, it's too hard to march to.
Remember when the Germans and British stopped fighting and played football in no-mans-land...How jolly civilised.
I'm thinking it's going to get a lot less civilized before it gets better.
He is a malignant narcissist who has been slapped down by the American people, and hell hath no fury like a malignant narcissist scorned. He has always been vengeful with his enemies and now he sees the American people as his enemy, and as a lame duck he has nothing to lose. In his election the greatest divide of votes was level of education, he "loves the poorly educated" and he waged a holy war against higher education, intellectual pursuits, and scientific research, all just to be spiteful for the highly educated voting against him.
He takes great pleasure in wielding his destructive power, he couldn't have cared less about the Republican congress, and a Democratic congress will get even less respect, so he probably feels more powerful rather than less powerful since the midterms, I think he feels free to go to war with the American people. His new chief of staff makes it clear he is going full authoritarian and will be causing the most pain and suffering he can, he is mean spirited, vengeful, violent, and in the end, he doesn't care if he kills everyone, he would probably take great pleasure in that.
He's got his ICE gestapo in the field (or at least he thinks he does), he's got the pardon power to raise a personal army, and the US military is in play, he fired all the minority senior commanders and Hegseth is trying to make the military in his White Supremacist/Christian Nationalist image. Real or not, I think that's the delusional way he sees it (Stephen Miller has always seen it that way). He's looking for allies and I think that's the reason he's currently trying to set up a meeting with Putin and Xi (see cartoon below),
I think he's going to go too far, and it ends one of three ways;
1) 25th Amendment
2) Impeached and removed from office (enough remaining Republicans in Congress end up more afraid of the voters than they are of him)
3) A bullet
In any event, I really don't think we are going to be holding hands and singing "Kumbaya" any time soon.
FLRW wrote:
Hmmmm, many theologians and commentators argue that Jesus embodied DEI principles through his ministry of radical inclusion and social equity.
Jesus was a liberal in every sense of the word.
FLRW wrote:
In the future only a few men will have children. Most men will have an AI sexbot for a girlfriend. You can buy one now for $6000.
That's for one that talks, the model that can't talk is $8,000.
The Democratic Socialists of America (DSA) has 100,000 members, that's one in 3,500 Americans.
In the last five years there have been a grand total of zero gender reassignment surgeries performed on children 12 and under.
And of no, we are heading into the "War on Christmas" season LOL.
Run run little piggies, or the boogie man will get you.
Wait, I forgot one.
First Satanic Demon Chief of Staff
Trump's DEI Program was very effective.
Record Number of Women Elected
First Openly Gay Senator
First Muslim Senator
First Black Female Governor
First Native American Governor
First Native American Female Senator
Congratulations to MAGA for a job well done.
RemyBrown wrote:
Funny.
SideWalker thinks Texas now believes in political correctness.
The trans are fine, but the political correctness is insane!
Yeah yeah, you told us the best thing about Trump is that now you get to say the N word, what a joke you are.
You included the caveat of not when black people are around LOL, truth is, you've always been able to use the word in your trailer park.
MAGA has no idea what socialism is, all they know about it is their handlers told them to accuse the opposition of being socialist.
No wonder Trump said, "I love the poorly educated", all you have to do is point them and pull the trigger.
But look at the bright side Pumpkin, at least you get Stephen Miller as a consolation prize..
wylted wrote:
you notice how they don't deny being for things like open borders and transing your children. they basically ran on those promises
"Wah wah wah, democracy is a big meanie, boo hoo hoo"
Quit your blubbering snowflake..
The American people have spoken, and they resoundingly said they are done with you and the rest of MAGA, as DeSantis said, it was an "extinction level event", now it's time for you to go and sink into the tar pit of America's darkest history.
Say hi to Joe McCarthy for me..