ebuc

The editing button is now working tho still problematic

The 9th vertexial event is correct, when starting from number 1 location and going in sequence, however, since the last end triangle of intitial Pulse, is also the beginning of the new Pulse, what we find is, that, then becomes every 5th sequential, vertexial nodal event, that, is also a free agent.

However, we then go back to every 9th nodal events being the next free agent. H,mm so it is back and forth patterning. Sorry for the confusion as I to am figuring this out, once we follow the pulsing action accounting accordingly. Interesting

So 9th > then 5th > then 9th etc, is what Ithink is going to be the regular, irregular pattern.

So every 3rd nuclear events is the free agent, and that regular pattern remains the same.

……11p..….13p.|.............…17p |....….-|…19p……………|.23……..25…………..|…..29p

.........…{12}.......|..................….|….18...|…………………..|…….{24}……………..|……….. 

9........................|.…..{15}..........|....……|………….{21}…..|………………..27……|……….

…10..................|.14...…..16......|.......…|……...20……..22|……………26…….28.|…………

When an organism gets 'really intelligent acting, I'd figure it 'has an intelligence.

AI is technological. ..' all of Universe is technology '..paraphrasing Bucky Fuller { 1895 - 1982 }

..' The Intelligent Universe '....Fred Hoyle { 1915 - 2001 }

Viri have only RNA or DNA, never both and protein shell, not a lipid membrane, ergo, a twilight organism that, acts like a mineral until it gets in the biologic cell.

Biologic organism --biologic cell has both RNA and DNA and a lipid membrane---

Access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego does vary to some degree with some biologic organisms, with that access variable in degree if not all in case of ego.{ * i * }

AI is an algorithm, that, use mathematical code accessed from humans accessibility to meta-space mind/intellect.concepts and ego and the input of info bits { 1-on 0-off } on to silicon based technological computers, that, have tremendously more speed to access information collected and stored on computers by humans.

..." .By using chains of thought and reasoning traces, which break large problems down into smaller intermediate steps, predictive models can even simulate multiple possible outcomes or contingencies, selecting from a tree of potential futures. This kind of “choiceful” prediction may be the mechanism underlying our notion of free will. "...LINK

.." So, which camp is right? The answer might be “neither”: most in both camps hold that AGI is a discrete threshold that will (or won’t) be crossed sometime in the future. In reality, there does not appear to be any such threshold — or if there is, we may have already crossed it. "..

.. " What makes you you is not any one part of your brain or body, or your atoms — they turn over frequently in any case — nor is it the details of how every part of you is implemented. You are, rather, a highly complex, dynamic set of functional relationships. "..

... " Do brain regions themselves function as communities of even smaller parts? We believe so. Cortical circuits are built of neurons that not only perform specialized tasks but also appear to learn to model neighboring neurons. This mirrors the familiar quip, “turtles all the way down” (a nod to the idea of infinite regress), suggesting that intelligence is best understood as a “social fractal” rather than a single, monolithic entity. "..

.." It may also be “turtles all the way up.” As brains become bigger, individuals can become smarter; and as individuals become more numerous, societies can become smarter. There is a curious feedback loop between scales here, as we could only have formed larger societies by growing our brains to model others, and our brains themselves appear to have grown larger through an analogous internal division of cognitive labor.

....AI models appear to obey the same principle. "..

I { ebuc } say it is tubes all the way to the bottom. More tubes is a larger set of relationships --the self-- tho self and ego may be to differrent things, that, only have some overlap.

Yes, our definition of meta-space mind/intelligence/concepts and ego, is overlapping with the methodologies we have installed in AI's, and two are not exactly the same. Begs the questions;

1} how long can humans continue on Earth without destroying themselves via destruction of the ecological systems that sustain, them or by nuclear annihilation,

2} how long can AI continue on Earth --or elsewhere-- without humans?

Sorry for again rambling, as this is new territory for me to consider, beginnig with that last triangle of triangulated bifrustum LINK

Correction.. still trying to get this all straight.

10…11p..13p and {12} nucleus. 9th nodal event is first free agent of with most degrees of freedom, when we initiate from numerical 1 in the minimal 18-0 space and time torus.

 So the vertical,. vertical {  l  } lines { in bold } is ending triangle of initial bifrustum, and also beginning of triangle of next bifrustrum { Minimal Pulse of Universe aka graviton-darkEon }, that, is composed of the two end triangles and mid-girth triangle, as well as six trapazoid faces/hedra/opeings.

Im also placing verticals between each set of triangles. I see now, that after the initial 9th vertexial nodal event { the third nuclei in each bifrustum }, it repeats as every third nuclei is the a free agent in the next bifrustum pulse. Ok glad to feel I have that straighten out in my head via the pattern below.

It is only the 9th vertexial event, from some initial starting location we had as 1 in the 18/0 space and time torus minimal set for a space and time torus.

……11p..….13p.|.............…17p |....….-|…19p……………|.23……..25…………..|…..29p
----------------------|-------------------|---------|-----------------------|-----------------------------|---------
.........…{12}.......|..................….|….18...|…………………..|…….{24}……………..|……….. 
9........................|.…..{15}..........|....……|………….{21}…..|………………..27……|……….

----------------------|-------------------|---------|-----------------------|-----------------------------|----------

…10..................|.14...…..16......|.......…|……...20……..22|……………26…….28.|…………

Remember that a Human's life is a blip in time.

A blip, blimp or blooper. 

Woman { X x } > Man { X y } > other animals { cettaceans, chimpanses, elephants, birds etc >>>> 

There exist all female species that pop-out exact clones of themselves. There exist no such species of male species.  My conclusion is that female is more complex than male.

…..if im incorrect please share logical, common sense critical thinking explanation. None of done that on this thread.

Cosmic 13..>  Universal concept such as as a systemic set of 12-around-one equal radius spheres, wherein the central 13th sphere is nucleated pregnancy of the woman { 12 spheres } ready to pop one out of the oven i.e. the  13th. The 13th nuclear one being the off-spring new born.

…Cosmic 13a}  Bucky fuller states that, the 12-around-one equal radius spheres is closet we will ever come to knowing God, because the 24 circumferential chords { as vectors }  are equal to its 24 radii { radiate out from the nuclear center }.

This is occurs when the Vector Equlibrium is constructed from 4 discs of paper. What he does not consider with the nuclear center of these four discs, is joint tangental valenced/bonding, that he does consider with the any two tangent radii of the discs six radii each. 24 >< 24 balance.
……See link to four disc folder in Synergetics graphic B that I posted above in previous posts also …. 

…Cosmic 13..> The Minimal Pulse of Universe the graviton-darkeon, has 13 vertexial nodal events.
 

…………..13b} In relation to the above mentioned, Fullers inconsideration of the four tangent nuclei, from four discs of folded paper, I have do have four vertexial nodal events found in every Minimal Pulse of Universe { graviton-darkEon }. I posted the 2D graphic for the minimal, 3D, space and time torus, ---a prior posts above in this thread-- showing the 13 nodal events that define the triangular bifrustum polyhedron as such Minimal, Tubular Pulse, with the four  ---3p….6….9….12…-- as physical reality within the Pulse.

Consciousness { ?} 13..> 13 micro-tublins is most common brain/ nervous system, and, more evidence of their relations to quantum effects at room temperature --see R Penrose/Hammeroff on conscious-ness associated with these 13 microtubles--  emit ultraviolet radiance from tryptophan in process called super-radiance. See Link

……..13c} here is another seperate PBS link, with similar evidence of quantum level effects in moist, warm enviroment of biologic body, that, for some years scientist claimed was not possible to occur. No it does no point specifically to conscious-ness, only such quantum effects are experimentally discovered. See LINK ..' Was Penrose Right? '…

For those interested in understanding more, then Im here to make available my logical, common sense critical thinking conclusions based on what evidence ive found and the prior mentions pathways of thought to arrive at my conclusions. Here again is the 2D version for the 3D space and time tori. Ive put {{  }} to show where the 13 vertexial nodal events occur, in sequence.

And again, the top line is representative outer peak of positive curvature for 3D space and time toris, as Gravity, which humans do not see direclty via quantization nor quantification and similarly, the bottom line is the peak of negative curvature, as Dark Energy not directly seen, ergo, not quantised nor quantified.

......{{1..........5p...7p.............11p....13p}}...............17p..........loops around and not co-joined as 17p/1 
-
 18/0.................6........................12............................18/0.loops around co-joined as one nodal event 18/0. 
...............3p.................9............................15.....................loops around and not co-joined as 15/3p 

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 ...........2p...4..............8....10..................14.....16................loops around and not co-joined as 16/2p

I then followed the above pattern out numerically to find where the next 9th agent of most freedom of movement would occur. We begin with last triangle closing off 

11p…13p…14 and 12 nucleus, then,
 Ahh, 15 appears the free agent, not 18 as I stated previously in this thread. I stated I was rambling on because I was following this out further, and now I see I need to consider this pattern more, as to where each free agent with most degrees of motion will occur. It appears differrent than the initial #9, as the 9th vertexial nodal event. 

Sorry for again rambling, as this is new territory for me to consider, beginnig with that last triangle of triangulated bifrustum…11p..13p…14 and 12 nucleus.   From below, it appears that it is only two events to the next free agent of motion, #15.   Will work on getting what now appears to be a more chaotic-like jumping around of the free agent.  Dunno yet for sure. Thanks for any consideration of this issue.

……11p..….13p...............17p.......…19p……………23……25……………..29p
-
............…12.........................…18…………………………24…………………….. 
9.........................….15..................……………21……………………27…………

-

…10..................14.....16.............………….20……22……………26…….28…..
 

Ebuc..> There can only exist five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.  Aka absolute or cosmic truth or principle.

 

SW..> This is where you lost me, I just don’t understand everything that followed this statement.

I thought you said something about incoherence of absolute truths. This above was my response and what followed was this

EB..> There exist limits, and humans are able to discover some of these cosmic absolute laws or cosmic absolute principles.

Dictionary ..> .' incoherent 1.(of spoken or written language) expressed in an incomprehensible or confusing way; unclear. '

SD…> 

You pretty much have to conclude that the world we experience is completely defined by the mind experiencing it,

EB..> Experience of occupied space via animal occupied space nervous system --or those without-- is a perspective, or angle-of-viewpoint, from which  each animal may respond in various ways, depending on the circumstances and their angle-of-viewpoint thereof.

Woman { X x } > Man { X y } > other animals { cettaceans, chimpanses, elephants, birds etc >>>> }

There exist all female species that pop-out exact clones of themselves. There exist no such species of male species.  My conclusion is that female is more complex than male.

Cosmic 13..>  Universal concept such as as a systemic set of 12-around-one equal radius spheres, wherein the central 13th sphere is nucleated pregnancy of the woman { 12 spheres } ready to pop one out of the oven i.e. the  13th. The 13th nuclear one being the off-spring new born.

Cosmic 13..> The Minimal Pulse of Universe the graviton-darkeon, has 13 vertexial nodal events.

Consciousness { ?} 13..> 13 micro-tublins is most common brain/ nervous system, and, more evidence of their relations to quantum effects at room temperature --see R Penrose/Hammeroff on conscious-ness associated with these 13 microtubles--  emit ultraviolet radiance from tryptophan in process called super-radiance. See Link
 

The only knowing there can be is a “mode” of knowing.  We pretty much have to presume that there is something “out there” causing these sensations we have “in here”, in our mind, but we don’t, and can’t, know it directly, we can only know it by the uniquely human manner of sensing and knowing available to us.  

I dissagree in so far as, other animals have conscious-ness, for most most have much less access to meta-space mind/intellect/concepts and ego.

So humans and other animals both are very well conscious of pain from falling, or have a object { tree rock } fall on us.

The only differrence is the human has language of conceptual identies that associate with the object { tree or rock } and can communicate that to others via a mobile phone invention by humans, one of which may have gone to the moon, and is now trapped under rock or tree with a working mobile phone to human made hostpital etc……. 

That certainly raises the question as to whether “absolute truth” is even a coherent concept. 

There can only exist five, regular/symmetrical and convex polyhedra of Universe.  Aka absolute or cosmic truth or principle.

There exist limits, and humans are able to discover some of these cosmic absolute laws or cosmic absolute principles.

You pretty much have to conclude that the world we experience is completely defined by the mind experiencing it,

Experience of occupied space via animal occupied space nervous system --or those without-- is a perspective or angle-of-viewpoint, from which  each animal may respond in various ways, depending on the circumstances and their angle-of-viewpoint thereof.

Woman { X x } > Man { X y } > other animals { cettaceans, chimpanses, elephants, birds etc >>>> }

There exist all female species that pop-out exact clones of themselves. There exist no such species of male species.  My conclusion is that female is more complex than male.

Universe 12-around-one equal radius spheres, wherein the central sphere is nucleated pregnancy of the woman { 12 spheres } ready to pop one out of the oven of 12.

In my 13 vertexial graviton-darkEon { aka Minimal Pulse of Universe } there is the 9th vertexial nodal event, that, tho it exists within the space and time toroidal tube as body, it is not nucleated any of the three triangles, that, are nucleated by 3p….6…..12 i.e the internal 9th nodal event is allowed the most degrees of freedom, being it does not have as direct structural triangulations as the other three do.

In this scenario, if played out to some zillions^nth power of gravitons-darkEons in a zillions^nth power of space and time tori, all of these 9th vertexial nodal events, having a greater degree of allow motion, I believe, are the cause of an eternally repeating Big Bang { WOW! } at the most expanded, and closest to equilibrium, entropic heat death of Universe.

Penroses differrent version is called the Conformal Cyclic Cosmology. I dont yet have a catchy phrase for this repeating female-male repeating cyclic moment of Unicerse expanding everywhere at once, as a resultant of the ultra-large set of 9th nodal events, coming out of their near to equilibrious state and begin to bounce into the 6 and 12 and the 3p etc…^v^v^v etc… ^v^v^

In the following minimalist static pattern, we humans do not quantize nor quantify the top line --outer peak of space and time tori--, as Gravity (  ), nor do we quantify the bottom line --inner peak of space and time tori as Dark Energy )(. We only quantize the internal vertexial nodal events, as physical reality that I label as observed time.

.......1..........5p...7p.............11p....13p...............17p..........loops around and not co-joined as 17p/1 
-
 18/0.................6........................12............................18/0.loops around co-joined as one nodal event 18/0. 
...............3p.................9............................15.....................loops around and not co-joined as 15/3p 

-

 ...........2p...4..............8....10..................14.....16................loops around and not co-joined as 16/2p

Here is link to a sort of visual of the three triangles and six trapazoid that are basic static  polyhedral shape of the graviton-darkEon { minimal pulse of Universe } https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangular_bifrustum

Each of the three triangles polygons have nuclear vertexial nodal event not shown in the link graphic

1…2p…4 have nucleus 3p

5p…7p…8 have nucleus 4

10…11p…13p have nucleus 12

That leaves the 9th nodal event off-center, and whereas all of the others come closer to absolute equilibrium { because more directly triangulated } the 9th vertexial nodal event will always have slightly more degrees-of-freedom at entropic heat death of Universe.

If were to count to the next nodal event in higher cyclic frequencies than the above presented, 18/0 space and time torus, the next 9th event, we have to begin with the last triangle of the previous next graviton-darkEon that is number 12 as it becomes the ending of one pulse and acts as initating of the next minimal pulse that is as follows: 

 ……11p..….13p...............17p.......…19p……………23……25……………..29p
-
............…12.........................…18…………………………24…………………….. 
9.........................….15..................……………21……………………27…………

-

…10..................14.....16.............………….20……22……………26…….28…..

So 18 becomes the next free agent of degrees of motion, however, its location is to the left side of the next mid-girth triangle of graviton-darkEon, where as the 9th nodal event was to the right side of the initial mid-girth triangle. 

10…11p…13p and 12

14…16….17p with 15 as nuclear to next triangle

19p..20….22 and 21 nuclear nodal event

Then 27. Aha, this is new discovery by me. After the intiatial 9th nodal event as free agent of most degrees of freedom occurring on right side of mid-girth triangle, and that pattern repeats itself. H,mm so we have two kinds of asymmetry occuring, right the repeating left, and  the fact that there exists this off center ergo asymmetry of every 9th vertexial event.

Sorry if Im rambling here, as this first time I followed the sequence in the four line pattern, and see exactly where what will occur.  Why this first right side then left side always repeats may have to do with starting with number 1 triangle set.  1..2p..3p nucleus 6.  Since the third triangle at other end in this sequence, is both the ending of a pulse and beginning of the next pulse. Yeah, that must be why.

Consider this, only humans seek absolute truths via their experience of relative truths.  Will the following AI Deep Mind Gemma project communicate with Cetacceans enough to find out if they also seek absolute truths. I dont think Cettaceans seek absolute truths.

Dolphins whistles { Bob, Mary, Tom } , clicks { sub-auditory }  and pulsed sounds { ex fighting and other social contexts }.

…' The field deployment will involve a fascinating approach: the system will both create synthetic dolphin sounds and analyze real-time dolphin vocalizations to identify potential “replies,” essentially attempting to establish a rudimentary form of interspecies communication.

This technological advancement represents a convergence of cutting-edge AI research and marine biology, potentially opening new pathways for understanding the sophisticated communication systems used by one of Earth’s most intelligent marine species. '..
https://www.wilddolphinproject.org/our-research/dolphin-communication/

AI finds that ..' Every Elephant Has Its Own Name, Study Suggests

An analysis of elephant calls using an artificial intelligence tool suggests that the animals may use and respond to individualized rumbles.'..
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/10/science/elephants-names-rumbles.html

AI finds similar info regarding dolphins having individual sounds --whistles-- for their off-spring.  A remmber from some years back a person collecting info on Dolphins/Porposies believe he was hearing individual sounds for the parents calling their off-spring.

A boat is what we get into when the ship is sinking.

A raft is what we get into when the boat is sinking.

A ______ is what we get into when the raft is sinking.

Thanks for the British humor, that, of course borders on truth. 

Here is what BBC says about the matter. H,mm Trumpet may have tried to cancel all funding for BBC is recent USA bill. So this  may be fake news BBC.
 

Trumpet …' The letter, which the newspaper claims was sent on Epstein's 50th birthday, has been decried by Trump as a "fake".

In a post, Trump says the newspaper and owner Rupert Murdoch "were warned directly" they would be sued if they printed the story, describing it as "false, malicious, and defamatory".
 

….According to the newspaper, a letter bearing Trump's name "contained several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn with a heavy marker".

"Inside the outline of the naked woman was a typewritten note styled as an imaginary conversation between Trump and Epstein, written in the third person," the paper reports.

….The letter allegedly ends with the words: "A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy Birthday – and may every day be another wonderful secret."

"These are not my words, not the way I talk. Also, I don't draw pictures," Trump said on social media in response to the story. '….
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c75ry4vy159t

If you havent watched this above vid yet Best Thing AI Ever Did, hope you find time. Amazing and AI won contest using triangulation methodology

Also more recent one on AI Deep Mind and discovering the three primary sounds Dolphins use to communicate.

Whistes { names of individuals }, clicks { for hunting }, pulsed sounds { social contacts }

id morality exist before Adam and Eve existed?

Did Adam and Eve have navals?  Did thise first humans on Earth have navals? I guess God was X x and X y, since their made in its image. 

Or were they first humans in Universe?  

 I had a relgiously fundamentalist-type  aunt who could not get her head around the existence of other planets, much less a galaxy full of planets.

So I would ask her about people on those other planets about what Jeus was doing for them, if only existed here. I forget what she said in reply.

.." And yes, this was my original username and profile pic from late 2013. My last username, the one I've had for the past 8 years, was Swagnaro

……………..

This above sort of reminds me of another story, that,  after Dennis Hopper made the movie Blue Velvet, I saw some comment somewhere, that, he should go back on drugs.  Apparrently had been off drugs before he made that movie.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Velvet_(film)

I.e. Bubbleclown, I think maybe you should go back to being Swagnarok { "fate of the gods" or "twilight of the gods }. I dunno. 

Will the Epstein files bite Trumpet in the butt?

How much do you weigh? 

165. I got as low as 163 from 175 or so.
 Maybe it was only 16 lbs I lost, but 9 those were like in the last 3 months. The Nurse Practicioner, said 163 was ideal for my body mass.

A long time semi-friend of mine lost some 90 lbs in last year, and he died last week. He was 78 and  that is average age of death of USA male.

Other than these two total reverse shoulder replacements, 8 years of sciatica, trigger finger in my thumb, and slipped L5 disc, and what ever has been causing me semi-constant pain in lower left back just above hip bone ---recent X-ray doc said some arithis--, perdontis disease, I would say, that, Im in pretty good shape for the shape Im in.

Oh yeah minor,  heart murmur for at least six years, so as long as it doesnt get worse, I plan to keep on truckin along the road of life.  Yay!



 

Are you the most intelligent person on this site?

I rather doubt that FLRW. Most of us are smart, or intelligent in our own ways. Or our specialities.

Some one once called me a master of association.  That may be because Ive ventured into reading various science-like topics of math, biology, quantum physics, cosmology etc, and also that Ive done a broad range of various kinds of jobs in my lifetime.

Altho, ive never been eletronics person or coder or anything like that.  Ive done a fair amount of electrical, carpentry, cattle rancher, hitchiker, dairy farmer, auto mechanic etc.  Put all of that in concert with reading all of Bucky Fullers books, with extra attention into Synergetic 1 and 2, I do have my broad range of specialities, that aid me in being a so called master of association.

I actually like that, since as a child, I remmeber coming home from school and being so bored out of mind watching the same ole same local city baseball games.  At 18 years of age, I could have done like one friend of mine, who went off to work with the telephone company for 20 years and the he retired, with relatively good money.

 I bounced around, and never made much money. I was blessed with a good physical body and Ive sure work the hell out of it laboring. So some if not many would say, I was not so smart or intelligent.  

Scroll to first graphic and and a diagonal trjectory from any corner vertex that goes through the 2D triangle.
https://veraviana.net/enclosing/inside-the-cube/

Makes me think of XYZ { as me }, as the vertex, as a bilateral object  * i *  seeing the 2D square green triangle and my ability to pass through it, on this digaonal trajectory -- d-iagonal aka 4th-D when XYZ is abc-d-- now Im on the other side of the 2D green triangle and see that Im part of the XYZ { abc } and im the d-iagonal 4th D perspective, outside of 3D tetrahedron, seeing 3D object, 2D object, vertexes, etc.
 

Im object and subject, Im Roger Zelazny and Phillip K Dick, via reading their mind via their sci-fi fantasy worlds. 
 

Im Philip Farmer { To Our Scattered Bodies Go }, Im Samuel R Delaney { Dalghren }, Im Piers Anthony { The Blue Adept }, and mostly Im Bucky Fuller { Synergetics 1 an 2 }.
 

I am a complexity of these complexities, and a Stranger In Strange Land { Earth }, Sol, Milky Way etc. Mother, Father, Brother and Sister, Friends, and strangers are all me and I them.

Universe has not morality nor purpose. Only humans apply morality and purpose.

Humans exist to those common things other animals also do, and humans exist to:

1} harvest information,  ---occupied space bits and meta-space mind/intellect/conceptual bits--

2} sort the information into catagories, patterns etc,

3} two winnow out local and cosmic principles,

4} to apply those principles in support to technologies, that  further the standard of living for humans and in support of the ecological environment that sustains humans.

Above Im paraphrasing Bucky Fullers ideas.

Religion is what exists in our meta-space tool box, to aid us getting through our daily lives with the least danger to self and others, in fulfillment of of the most wholistic spiritual teaching, ….all-for-one and one-for-all… as taken from story of Three Musketeers, who were warriors in battle some of the time, if not most of time.

There is another wholistic saying, that, …all I will do for death is to die for it….   H,mm easier said than done.

There there is reality of a dog eat dog world, or as I saw movie doc. about man who stole McDonalds from the McDonald brothers,… its not a dog eat dog world, it is a rat eat rat world…

My mother --raised in deep barefoot country-- liked to say in her later city life with us children, ….its a concrete jungle out there..

Im sure there are plenty of other spiritual teachings out there, perhaps, ….mind your own business and stay out of trouble.. or …keep your head low to avoid loosing it…or etc.

We seek absolute truth, via our experiences of relative truths, that, sometimes contain misconceptions, false narratives { intentional or otherwise }, mis-perceptions, etc.

I feel good, altho, I didnt know that I would. 

Ok, so Im older man { X y }, and just had my first colonscopy and clean as a whistle.

I was worried that I had was loosing to much weight in last two years, --18 lbs--  however, on visit to get colonscopy, with my extreme laxative purge the day and night before { as required for colonscopy } I weighed in, expecting to have lost another 2 or more pounds.

I had gained two lbs since my last lowest weight in those two years.  Yay! 
 

Who we have to thank for this sites new development?  Thank You! 

May the force be with you!

Love Love you do, you kwow, we all love you…sung to early Beatles tune