I just know had I not been a guild leader than you made a mistake by not even attempting to recruit me.

I would kill for you. I would pick a target and take them down at your behest. I would be your greatest warrior.

Now I will probably be killed, but my sacrifice will not be in vain. I will go down as a super hero, as a legend as some sort of saint even. My guild will carry on and I will be the wind beneath their wings

https://youtu.be/0iAzMRKFX3c?si=jZex18MAHkJwRC32

Honestly I don't think scum would claim to be non recruitable at all even if they were. My vote isn't on you

Mestari is up for grabs. Go recruit him lunatic

I promise I didn't recruit Mestari lol.

I don't think it improves our chances of catching mafia for me to out the recruit and I don't think lunatic should out any of his either tbh.

Maybe after a few DPs when it's likely that we both fucked up somewhere and recruited scum

Shit I actually confused wryly with Alyssa. My bad

unvote

I guess with it being pass over

unvote VTL alyssa

It's always somebody in everyone's POE so it makes the game more solvable even without strong stances

Examples of what? It's like a feel thing. Like if you told me that lights usually come on when you flip a switch. You would struggle to find examples and yet we all know that's typically what happens. You see stuff enough you start recognizing patterns.

Chinese fire drill lynches land on scum like 90% of the time

I heard a story about Darren Davis, one of the lowest scorers ever on the NFL Wonderlic. He went on vacation to Canada and put snow in a jar to bring home to his family in Miami.

I often forget to grab an oven mitt to pull pans out of the oven

My problem with Alyssa is she just ignored 11 pages of information and stuck on the most recent thing. It’s lazy

I encourage all players intimidated or overwhelmed by all the posts to just ignore all previous posts and just jump in. Encouraging that often gets more active members than pushing for them to actually catch up when the thread gets this long

All I can say is whoever got recruited should keep their fucking mouth shut unless we are close to a mislynch of their dear leader, which is me. We keep recruits secret

Sorry for your struggles. Sounds like we are in the same boat..

We aren't in the same boat because I am literally a retard. Tons of learning disability classes in school. They called it "LD".

You got off easy with just speaking problems instead of being a literal retard like me

Your read on Alyssa feels correct. I would put her with Kohai in my scum list

I'd like this verified.

Who said they were unable to be recruited?

I will say one more thing on this. Yes my writing style may be contrived. For some TMI I have done years of speech therapy and while just speaking and connecting with people may be something natural for you its something I had to work hard to get where I am.

I spent years in speech therapy as well. You probably were worse off than me. I did have the speech therapist for my son say that he will be a better spelling if we keep on him about pronunciation. So I wonder if seeking style and writing style are connected in some way.

I think Kohai is scum

However we know this game nobody can replace in given the strategies behind Mason PMs etc.

I think we lynch air max so we don't find him in the town during a mylo situation.

I think he is the only absentee person, so it's not like we have to do this more than once

UNVOTE VTL Air max

That is awesome. That's such an incredibly difficult obstacle to overcome. You are wildly impressive for accomplishing ever you have.

I had speech therapy for years also, plus I am probably a retard so no excuses

It's fucking annoying, and beating him out of that writing style would benefit him greatly

I had chat GPT analyze the writing and here is what it said

You’re picking up on something real. That style isn’t just “low intelligence.” It’s usually a mix of strategy, insecurity, and habit.

Let’s break it cleanly.

1. Avoiding Contractions → “Artificial Formality”

“I do not use AI…” instead of “I don’t use AI…”

What it signals:

1. Trying to sound serious, academic, or authoritative
2. Mimicking debate / essay tone without actually having the depth
3. Overcorrecting for fear of sounding casual or “weak”

Why people do it:

1. They associate contractions with being less intelligent or less credible
2. They’ve been trained by school writing where “formal = good”
3. They’re performing intelligence, not expressing it

Reality:

1. Skilled writers use contractions strategically
2. Over-avoidance actually makes writing feel stiff and unnatural

2. Word Inflation → “Padding Without Substance”

“…a number of stances but few have logic behind them and simply voice disagreement…”

This could be:

“They disagreed without giving reasons.”

What’s happening:

1. Simple ideas are stretched into longer sentences
2. Extra words replace actual argument depth

Why:

1. Habit from school → hit word count
2. Confuses length with strength
3. Buys time mentally while writing (thinking as they go)

Underneath:

1. Often a lack of clear internal structure
2. They feel like they’re making a strong point, but can’t compress it

3. Low Vocabulary + Long Sentences → “Mismatch”

This is the key thing you noticed.

They are:

1. Using basic words
2. In overly long, formal structures

That mismatch creates the “5th grade essay stretched to 1,000 words” feeling.

Why this happens:

1. They do not actually possess a large vocabulary
2. So instead of using better words, they:
3. Add filler phrases
4. Repeat ideas in slightly different ways
5. Use structure to fake complexity

4. Debate Posturing → “Trying to Sound Like a Debater”

Phrases like:

1. “To the argument presented—”
2. “Their first assertion…”
3. “This dynamic is arguably…”

What this is:

1. Copying debate format language
2. Trying to signal:
3. “I am structured”
4. “I am logical”
5. “I am winning”

Problem:

1. The form is there
2. The substance isn’t

It’s like wearing a suit with no actual training.

5. Cognitive Load Leakage → “Thinking While Writing”

You can feel it here:

“I would ask why? Americans are obligated…”

The writing feels like:

1. They are figuring out their argument mid-sentence
2. Not writing from a pre-structured idea

Result:

1. Rambling transitions
2. Repetition
3. Slight logical drift

6. Defensive Framing → “Pre-emptive Justification”

The whole intro:

“I do not use AI… I do use search engines… I would not have agreed…”

What’s going on:

1. They’re defending credibility upfront
2. Probably reacting to:
3. Accusations
4. Insecurity
5. Fear of being dismissed

Strong writers:

1. Don’t over-explain their legitimacy
2. They just argue

7. Why It Feels So Annoying

You’re reacting to incongruence:

Your brain is basically going:

“Why are you talking like a professor but thinking like a middle schooler?”

That mismatch triggers irritation.

8. What’s Actually Going On (Core Diagnosis)

It’s usually a mix of:

1. Status Signaling

Trying to sound intelligent instead of being clear.

2. Academic Conditioning

Years of:

1. Word count requirements
2. “Formal tone = good writing”

3. Lack of Compression Skill

They can’t do this:

Say something sharp in one sentence

So they do:

Say it vaguely in five

4. Debate Roleplay

They are playing debater, not actually thinking like one.

9. What Good Writing Would Do Instead

Take this:

“Their first assertion is that the scales tip to freedom. Ok? Thats an opinion. I would ask why?”

A stronger version:

“They claim freedom outweighs safety, but give no reason why.”

Shorter. Sharper. More dangerous.

Bottom Line

This style is not just “low intelligence.”

It’s:

1. Performative intelligence
2. Combined with low compression ability
3. And school-trained verbosity

They are trying to sound like someone who wins debates

instead of actually making arguments that win debates

If you want, I can rewrite their entire passage into something that would actually hit hard in a debate.

I need somebody else to comment on bro's vocabulary. I don't get the style choices

here is a paragraph so it's not just in the mafia game but it makes it harder for me to read him.

While I do understand my opponents emotionally charged point I do not see much logic to it. Vietnam was a very different era and the rates of serving troops getting into combat of any kind has been very low with most sources suggesting between 3-10% depending on time frame. This number does include things that are what I would call "Combat Ish." Things like one mortar striking the base they are on and they blanket a combat action ribbon to every person on the base or running over some tiny mine thats not even strong enough to pop a tire both qualify the same as getting into a direct gunfight. On top of this the overwhelming majority of military roles are support roles. Cooking, Washing Clothes, fixing trucks, counting bullets, and working on computers. The vast amount of logistics jobs required to make things work give very little risk.

which should say: While I understand pro's emotionally charged point, I don't see the logic behind it. In Vietnam at the time the troops going into combat were about 3-10% of total troops, this number does involve things I would call combat-ish that are not actually involved in direct conflict. The vast majority of the jobs are support and logistics job such as cooks, mechanics, IT and inventory control.

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SO his writing style is strange. It shows a low vocabulary, allergies to contractions and an effort to turn a sentence into a paragraph of content. Why would this style of writing exist?

If your character is what I think it is, just have the other guy vouch for you and forget it, assuming they can vouch in a discreet way

You are bleeding town to a level I can not deny. Maybe I am just being too controlling right now. I get that you dislike me rejecting your guild but you do seem to understand why. While we may be going at the situation in ways each disagrees with I do not see the benefit in the trolling.

This is an unusual style of writing. Like your vocabulary is smaller than it should be and is if you will also go through great lengths to avoid contractions. Are you a non native english speaker or is there some other reason your speech resembles an essay of somebody trying really hard to reach the minimum word count but without adding more content.

I am skeptical of my ability to get tit pics

be an effiminate faggot or trans and girls will feel more comfortable with you and just walk around with their tits out. Also if you emulate what you imagine that somebody like Kurt Kobain would be like and embody that personality, women will be comfortable around you and also expose themselves.

Whatever you do, don't better yourself by getting a real job, being physically fit and learning some basic social dynamics. That is reserved for people who want to put in effort.

"YEAH LUNATIC SAYS HE'S A DUDE BUT YOU CAN NEVER REALLY BE SURE AMIRITE LADIES, PICS OR GTFO 'BRO

This is a tactic to get tit pics, not a genuine skepticism

Who tf is FT

I studied his strategy a bit and took his advice and made it a type of guide for myself on how to scum hunt and seeing as how everyone took his strategies seriously because of how good he was, it's annoying that when I use the exact same reasoning for my scum reads, I am dismissed

And you're doing this as the wagon shows itself to be dead. And you're moving into the next easiest wagon?

I drink scotch. I don't know. I just assumed it was like regular wine

Anyway me, pie, lunatic and Thoth agreed to lynch you in the scum chat last game for some reason. We were probably going to stay with that course of action unless you became obviously town or somebody else appeared to scummy to ignore and alas Kohai appears so I wouldn't read too much into Pies reasoning to fuck with you

Chip off the ol' block huh?

That's funny because it's true and I don't know how you could know that.